Re: Davy Knowles interveiw Guitar Player Mag

Fair enough. You don't agree with what I've said, I don't agree with what you've said. It's happened before (today) and will surely happen again.

In your zeal to view things black and white, you've missed the point that I was making entirely.  No sense me trying to re-state again.

If you'd like to discuss how I subjectively view the band and their music, we can do that on another thread.

PC

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pcornell wrote:

If you'd like to discuss how I subjectively view the band and their music, we can do that on another thread.

PC

I'd like to hear what you have to say. I was kind of feeling like the only one around here who wasn't keen on the hype of the band. Now mind you I haven't seen them live, but they have quite a few live videos on youtube that I was not that impressed with. But as you said, probably best saved for another thread...but don't hesitate on starting it because i'm interested in your view on the group.

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I'm personally tired of hearing people argue about their opinions of Back Door Slam. If you don't like them... you don't have to defend your point... we all understand. If you do... keep listening. I thought music was supposed to be that easy. I don't oppose thoughts about other bands at all, but I don't think that it warrants this much attention.

(Don't take this the wrong way... I just don't see why we are talking about this. No disrespect meant to ANYONE on this forum, I guess my wording could have been a bit harsh, please don't think I was talking to anyone in particular when I said I was tired of the argument. This is just MY view on this topic).

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JBSRV wrote:

I'm personally tired of hearing people argue about their opinions of Back Door Slam. If you don't like them... you don't have to defend your point... we all understand. If you do... keep listening. I thought music was supposed to be that easy. I don't oppose thoughts about other bands at all, but I don't think that it warrants this much attention.

(Don't take this the wrong way... I just don't see why we are talking about this. No disrespect meant to ANYONE on this forum, I guess my wording could have been a bit harsh, please don't think I was talking to anyone in particular when I said I was tired of the argument. This is just MY view on this topic).

Agreed!

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JBSRV wrote:

I don't oppose thoughts about other bands at all, but I don't think that it warrants this much attention.

but at the same time its ok for people to give enough attention to continuously post threads that go on and on about how great they are quoting the same reasons over and over again on why thats so? why can't those of us who don't get it discuss why?

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vinceesquire wrote:
JBSRV wrote:

I don't oppose thoughts about other bands at all, but I don't think that it warrants this much attention.

but at the same time its ok for people to give enough attention to continuously post threads that go on and on about how great they are quoting the same reasons over and over again on why thats so? why can't those of us who don't get it discuss why?

We can, and should.

If we allow a less that positive review of JB on his OWN forum (within the guidelines) then we darn sure allow discussions which include opposing views of other artists.

The people that start the original thread or post within it should be prepared for someone(s) to disagree. It comes with the territory.

Since we've allowed DOZENS of threads to be started over and over with positive comments, there is no reason that people that don't agree have to sit on their hands.

PC

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25 (edited by cathysiler 2008-10-15 10:10:52)

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Sorry I missed this yesterday. I am a BDS fan and have met them all as a JB fan. I also feel Davy is being taken out of context. He is a very humble young man and most appreciative of the support he's gotten from JB fans. I think we all know how hard it is for Blues Rockers out there and wish there was an attitude of being commrades in arms vs competitors. Again, BDS are 3 young men with an excellent "machine" behind them, just starting out and like it or not, they are making an impression. They are also bringing a younger crowd to the genre, a bonus for all. Can't wait until I see them 11/5. I hope to hear that Joe was kind and supportive. I will be sad if that wasn't the case. What was I doing when I was 21????                        Cathy

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JB would never be anything but kind and supportive.

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27 (edited by Greenose 2008-10-15 11:16:02)

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pcornell wrote:
vinceesquire wrote:
JBSRV wrote:

I don't oppose thoughts about other bands at all, but I don't think that it warrants this much attention.

but at the same time its ok for people to give enough attention to continuously post threads that go on and on about how great they are quoting the same reasons over and over again on why thats so? why can't those of us who don't get it discuss why?

We can, and should.

If we allow a less that positive review of JB on his OWN forum (within the guidelines) then we darn sure allow discussions which include opposing views of other artists.

The people that start the original thread or post within it should be prepared for someone(s) to disagree. It comes with the territory.

Since we've allowed DOZENS of threads to be started over and over with positive comments, there is no reason that people that don't agree have to sit on their hands.

PC

I've been taking a break from the forum but I feel inclined to return having read the comments on this thread.

Firstly the notion that Davy Knowles would badmouth Eric Clapton is nonsense. He is a massive Clapton fan. If you read the whole interview Davy states how the Beano album turned him onto blues music! He also rejects the suggestion that Clapton's work after the Dominoes was not as good as his earlier work.  He states in this interview that he admires that he bounced back from a difficult period in his life to record that album. The comment about Clapton's voice could quite easily have been flippant, it might not have even been intended for publication! Remember Day is 21 and has only done magazine interviews over the last two years. At no point did Davy did not say Clapton was a bad singer. I think what he probably meant was that Eric's vocals on this album were not quite to the standards of other albums he has made.  Publicity is not always a bad thing, infact I've read several reviews of 461 Ocean Boulevard since I read that interview just to find out more about the album!

I've read many interviews by Davy and he states his appreciation of Clapton and his music in many of them. He calls him a hero on a live recording I have. I'm sure Davy would be very surprised to see his comments about Clapton have been taken as an insult, infact I think he'd be horrified at the suggestion!

Of course we are allowed to disagree on these pages, I generally find though that if there is an artist I don't like, the best policy is either to keep criticism to an objective critique of their music, or better still not post at all. That way the post moves down as people discuss other artists...

My feeling is that its great that BDS have got so much good recognition. As Cathy says they are bringing younger fans to the genre, which may also benefit guys like Joe. I do wish though that other young artists could share some of this attention. 

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pcornell wrote:

JB would never be anything but kind and supportive.

That's what I believe and hope I'm right. I've thought about this alot and you know what? Nice does matter to me. Fans are humans. When an artist relies on them for all his promotions, sales, and general word of mouth praise, there is an element of who that artist is, as a person, involved. There are some great musicans out there that I've met and think they're not such nice people. I'll say nice things about their music if I like it, but I won't promote them. I see mentoring in the same light. My dream would be for JB Adventures to be the home for up and coming Blues Rockers. This economy and current world culture call for cooperative, creative thinking on the part of touring bands to insure the survival of all.

Now, let's all have a big hug  (((((((((((())))))))))          Cathy

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Greenose wrote:

I'm sure Davy would be very surprised to see his comments about Clapton have been taken as an insult, infact I think he'd be horrified at the suggestion!

Agreed. Like Jim I think that this whole thing is simply a "taken out of context" problem .... I thought about John Lennon´s "the Beatles are bigger than Jesus right now" comment and what came out of it. That´s probably one of the most drastic cases that shows what happens when you take quotes out of their context.

But what I´d find interesting is your different views of the band - especially Phil and Vince ... that would surely be another interesting discussion! What bothers me about our "BDS-Hype" here is that threads about other artists don´t get recognized so much when there´s a BDS topic at the same time ... but I´m a fan, so I also read the BDS topics with a lot of interest. As long as all the other great artists out there still get the same ammount of attention it´s o.k..

Eva

P.S.: Vince, I´m a Clapton Fan myself, so I surely didn´t want to say anything bad about him in my previous post - my point was actually that when it comes to comparing artists, you shouldn´t see everything through the "legend"-lense. But of course you are absolutely right about calling Clapton an innovator.

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Greenose wrote:

The comment about Clapton's voice could quite easily have been flippant, it might not have even been intended for publication!

Of course we are allowed to disagree on these pages, I generally find though that if there is an artist I don't like, the best policy is either to keep criticism to an objective critique of their music, or better still not post at all. That way the post moves down as people discuss other artists...

I do wish though that other young artists could share some of this attention. 

Live and Let Live

yes that true it could have been flippant, but thats why he needs to learn that those kinds of opinions should stay out of interviews. You never know what part of what you say is going to be printed. Like i posted earlier, if you haven't met these boys in person to get a real taste of what their like, that comment could easily turn people away.

I have nothing against them personally because I never fully pass judgement on someone without meeting them face to face, i'm simply saying I dont get any of the hype behind them.

I totally agree with your last point because there are quite a few young bands out there who  who deserve the same amount of attention, if not more.

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eva wrote:

But what I´d find interesting is your different views of the band - especially Phil and Vince ... that would surely be another interesting discussion! What bothers me about our "BDS-Hype" here is that threads about other artists don´t get recognized so much when there´s a BDS topic at the same time.

P.S.: Vince, I´m a Clapton Fan myself, so I surely didn´t want to say anything bad about him in my previous post - my point was actually that when it comes to comparing artists, you shouldn´t see everything through the "legend"-lense. But of course you are absolutely right about calling Clapton an innovator.

I could go into quite a few reasons of why i dont get all the hype. I think I agree with phil that it should be started on another thread and as soon as someone starts that discussion i'll explain my reasonings.

I didn't take anything you said in your last post offensively. I think you are right when you say that the "legend" status isn't the biggest factor to look at. I still don't think these two should be compared just because of the accomplishments Clapton has achieved...not so much because he's a legend.

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I'll get my hug and give all them after I say my piece.  Eric Clapton's vocals on 461 Ocean Boulevard ARE great.  Fantastic. Mint Condition. His vocals were not great in Cream if one is looking to find fault with them.  They became good in Derek & The Dominoes, vastly improved with his first solo release, which incidentally, not unlike some of Joe Bonamassa's continuing saga, brought derision, scorn, mockery, flippant / tasteless / senseless / mean statements insinuating a worldwide devaluation of Eric's talents (previously thought to be "only as a guitarist"). Eric made a HUGE statement about how he was going to do music, still inherently blues-based or at the very least in some of his later works, tinged, and would not, could not be placed into a box in a corner, nor be willing give up being true to himself one iota.  Everything came together for Eric Clapton on and AT 461 Ocean Boulevard, and neither song, vocals, or guitar loses out in any small way whatsoever, thereafter on to this day. He finally had his act totally together.  Certainly worthy of being "one of my favorites", cool
I reserve any comment regarding David Knowles and Back Door Slam because I am a one man jury still deliberating.  I don't buy hype as well as I sell it.

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eva wrote:

What bothers me about our "BDS-Hype" here is that threads about other artists don´t get recognized so much when there´s a BDS topic at the same time ... but I´m a fan, so I also read the BDS topics with a lot of interest. As long as all the other great artists out there still get the same ammount of attention it´s o.k..

Eva

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lalalalalalalalalal  opps please don't take that out of context I wont want to come of as drunk or stoned or drunk or more stoned although I;m feeling I bit Buzzed err

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