Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

rpic wrote:

My first thought is, does Joe want to open fo Dave Mathews?

Just in case you missed this post in the Street Team section.

I recieved this message from William Morris Joe's booking agency. I posted in the general topics section too if anyone wants to voice an opinion. I posted here to request the Street Teams help stuffing the ballot box. Whatever your opinion of whether this is a good thing or not Andrew wouldn't of sent this if they weren't trying to make it happen.

The Dave Matthews camp is conducting a poll for possible support acts next year.

Would appreciate everyone taking a few seconds and vote for Joe Bonamassa.

Feel free to forward this along. Thanks!

http://web.davematthewsband.com/08Opene … Survey.asp

Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

I personally although not a Dave Mathews fan would like to see Joe in front of his audience. He does have a wide demographic fan base. One of the reason I never cared for DMB is no lead guitar. How about an encore with Joe called up to make that happen if only for a moment.

Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

dude , dave doesn't turn on the real deadheads maybe the young deadheads that don't know what the dead is all about but the hardcore deadheads all hate dave . the radiators and widespread panic have a better shot at the old time deadheads . i've seen 350 or so dead shows and i have alot of my friends a few hundred and not one of them are into dave . joe is a little to hardcore for dave fans i don't think they will find joe's music worth listening to . it takes a special person who really enjoys music and knows music that will be turned on by joes music and dave fans aren't the answer . as for robert randolph it wasn't dave that did it for him its was playing with the allman brothers playing with gov't mule playing with ratdog doing the big jam band festivals those are the fans that go see him . i've been seeing robert since he use to play small clubs in nyc and maybe there was 20 to 30 people there so dave had nothing to do with it . if joe was to open for allman brothers or gov't mule or even double bill with derek trucks i bet he would get more people into his music then if he opened for dave .....................well there is my 3 cents .lol...joe



Deezer wrote:

Huge if Joe could do this. It did wonders for Robert Randolph. Not a big fan of Dave's recorded output, but I respect him immensely for how he's gone about his business and how he approaches his music. Plus, on top of it all, he is probably the best live show going and the only thing that can remotely approach the Dead Heads today. Joe would definitely have proved his salt if this gets done.

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i wish joe would tour with pearl jam, I'd be in heaven

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I am not a huge fan of DMB, but I voted just because JB  deserves the exposure.

good luck!

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Sorry,  Jim m I did miss it. I voted.

Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

joebeacon wrote:

dude , dave doesn't turn on the real deadheads maybe the young deadheads that don't know what the dead is all about but the hardcore deadheads all hate dave . the radiators and widespread panic have a better shot at the old time deadheads . i've seen 350 or so dead shows and i have alot of my friends a few hundred and not one of them are into dave . joe is a little to hardcore for dave fans i don't think they will find joe's music worth listening to . it takes a special person who really enjoys music and knows music that will be turned on by joes music and dave fans aren't the answer . as for robert randolph it wasn't dave that did it for him its was playing with the allman brothers playing with gov't mule playing with ratdog doing the big jam band festivals those are the fans that go see him . i've been seeing robert since he use to play small clubs in nyc and maybe there was 20 to 30 people there so dave had nothing to do with it . if joe was to open for allman brothers or gov't mule or even double bill with derek trucks i bet he would get more people into his music then if he opened for dave .....................well there is my 3 cents .lol...joe



Deezer wrote:

Huge if Joe could do this. It did wonders for Robert Randolph. Not a big fan of Dave's recorded output, but I respect him immensely for how he's gone about his business and how he approaches his music. Plus, on top of it all, he is probably the best live show going and the only thing that can remotely approach the Dead Heads today. Joe would definitely have proved his salt if this gets done.

I wasn't talking about Dead Heads liking Dave, I was talking about his fan base becoming the only thing approaching the Dead Heads in terms of devotion...please get it right if you're going to rebuke.

As many times as Robert Randolph opened for Dave, I beg to differ. But you're certainly entitled to your opinion. And I'll stick to mine that IT WOULD BE A GREAT MOVE FOR JOE. PERIOD.

I love it when people shoot down an idea because they seem to know an audience. Why don't we just get him up in front of that audience and just see what happens for s***s and giggles? Dang, just by the sheer volume people there's bound to be quite a few who would dig it. In MY experiences with Dave's fans (although I'm not the taping and jamband czar that you are) they like a pretty wide range of music. Heck, a friend of mine who is the biggest Dave fan I know just saw Derek Trucks recently and said it was one of the greatest things he's ever seen. Something tells me there's more than one person who would like Derek Trucks in that crowd, and that they would dig Joe too.

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Disagree.

But more to the point, it wasn't a poll to see what everyone thought about the idea. Joe's booking agent asked for loyal fans to help get Joe on the bill with Dave Mathews.

That's the point of the street team. To lend a grass roots promotional effort to the artist as needed.

If you feel you can morally and ethically support this effort, then please do so. If you can't then don't.

Please keep in mind that there could be all other kinds of outcomes from this campaign, and that new fans and other artists frequent this board.

What if there was a way to get new fans for Joe, help his business be profitable (which he always puts into new product), and keep the Joe Bonamassa momentum going.......wouldn't you want to know?

What if another artist that routinely plays the 15,000 arenas sees the results of this effort and decides to do something with Joe? Like co-headline, or ask Joe to guest, or record with him or who knows......

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There's no debate under the Street Team thread. We are more than happy to do what's asked and wish we were asked more often.  Thanks, Cathy

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Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

joebeacon

Joe HAS been doing his own shows.
I agree with Deezer - I'm not a big fan of DMB, but I have some cd's. I know all kinds of people across the kinds of people out there go to DMB concerts. And I do agree that the cultural vacuum left by the greatful dead was somewhat filled by bands like Phish, DMB, and O.A.R.

If Joe did a 30 show US tour (or whatever) with DMB...what would be wrong with that? If joe's interested - I say go for it.

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29 (edited by photogal 2007-12-15 21:24:25)

Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

I agree with pcornell,

I am sure that the Wm. Morris Agency has discussed this in depth with Joe. They would not put the effort into this and waste their time and money if this did not appeal to Joe.

It is not our place to tell Joe what he should and should not be doing or what is in his best interest. I think he has a better grip on that regardless of how many shows one has attended or taped, or who you might know in the "music industry". I am not directing this to any one person, so no bashing here.

Joe has surrounded himself with people who make a living guiding artists with their careers. Until each one of us here are employeed in that capacity or have a proven track record guiding artists in their decisions with their careers I think we should change our tone from "Joe should do this or that" to one of "It would be cool to see.." or "I would like or wish".

Joe's career is and will continue to be successful. The proof is on the charts and the number of fans attending shows. Joe is now selling out theaters, ...movin' on up!

If this is what Joes management is asking, I am behind it 100%. I am neither yea or nay on Dave Mathews. I have a CD or two, listen to them every great once in a while and appreciate the diversity this artists brings to the table.

If a fan feels like they are not getting their moneys worth paying the price to attend a show with Joe opening for Dave Mathews then don't go, and or don't tape the show. It's as simple as that. But just because you don't want to go or pay, doesn't mean that it is a bad move for Joe. Honestly, it would be worth the price (to a limit that is) to be able to turn and face those in the audience and witness the faces when Joe takes the stage and the jaws drop.

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Curious. Why can't Joe open for the Eagles or Van Halen? They're with the same agency as he is. That would give him a lot of exposure. Closer genre to him as well.

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photogal wrote:

If a fan feels like they are not getting their moneys worth paying the price to attend a show with Joe opening for Dave Mathews then don't go, and or don't tape the show. It's as simple as that. But just because you don't want to go or pay, doesn't mean that it is a bad move for Joe. Honestly, it would be worth the price (to a limit that is) to be able to turn and face those in the audience and witness the faces what Joe takes the stage and the jaws drop.

...my few pennies into the pool smile
~Rhonda

I couldn't agree with you more Rhonda.  Liking or disliking  the Dave Matthews Band really has nothing to do with this.  This is about supporting Joe.  This type of event could open all kinds of doors for him.  Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

For those that might be curious. The Dave Mathews Band averages 29,000 tickets sold. They have used a variety of opening acts. Robert Randolf, Robert Earl King, The Wailers, and yes even the Allman Brothers Band and Gov't Mule Joe Beacon.

You get that many people catching a glimpse of Joe there is not many downsides. We all know what Joe can do to a room with whatever set length he has to work with. Wouldn't take too many stops to impact his own fanbase.

I would want to see how Joe be came across in an areana personally. I'm thinking it would be pretty cool to have him play the Ford Center in OKC. The next time Joe came back to OKC as a headliner it would probably require a larger venue than he has been playing.

Just the traffic from DMB fans to this site checking out the opener would be huge.

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karla wrote:

Curious. Why can't Joe open for the Eagles or Van Halen? They're with the same agency as he is. That would give him a lot of exposure. Closer genre to him as well.

As good as the Eagles and Van Halen are now, their fan base is both not as big right now as Dave's and not as young. Remember, Joe's goal is to get younger people turned onto the blues. You're simply playing to the older fan base that Joe already draws quite a bit from anyway. This is trying to tap into a new market.

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I did the signup/suggestion of Joe on the DMB tour and think it's a great idea.  Why?

1. The fellow from Wm. Morris thinks it's a good idea (so presumably does Joe).

2.  While I'm not the biggest DM fan in the world, I dig what he brings to the table musically (and the size of his fan base).

3.  Most people (at least in my opinion) are not ONLY Blues fans or Rock fans or Jazz fans or whatever.  They like a cross-section of music to fit different moods.  I don't care what you call it, only that it's good.  I think there are a sizable number of people who feel likewise, many of whom would likely be in the audience at a DMB concert.  Just like I like Joe and Crosby Loggins (and Back Door Slam, Black Stone Cherry, Wynton Marsalis, Andrea Bocelli, etc.).

4.  To the younger crowd, opening for Dave is like an endorsement for Joe that this guy is good so check him out.  I don't see how this can be a bad thing.

5.  Maybe it could lead to an interesting collaboration down the road.  Who knows?

Re: Dave Mathews/Joe B

Some people might not like this but if you asked the majority of music fans elsewhere in the world who Dave Mathews was, you'd get a big blank look. I had to look on wikipedia to find out who he was. It's my guess that Joe, if he wants to support a well known act, should select someone with a wider appeal, and yes, the Eagles might be a better bet! That way he would get in front of new fans!

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I know you're probably from outside the US, so let me assure you that in the United States the Dave Matthews Band is one of the biggest draws going. Compared to the Eagles, compared to the Stones, compared to anybody. For Joe it would be HUGE if he got this. We're talking about thousands and thousands of people.

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