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Topic: What does Joe's future hold?

I have seen Joe 27 times and every time is a treat, and I have turned at least 100 or more people on to Joe. Unfortunately I am seeing a trend that I hope I am wrong about. The shows seem to be very predictable lately. I think the new cd is great compared to most of the garbage that comes out these days but I got bored with it after a couple of weeks. All of Joe's other cd's never get boring to me.  I would love for Joe to put out a cd with the passion he has on Bloodline(the most amazing playing ever) This will probably come across as being disrespectful but I am an honest person and this is what I am thinking. I always put Joe right up there with SRV, Rory G and Sonny Landreth and I want him to be the biggest and greatest guitar player on the planet because he deserves it. I know Joe knows Warren Haynes and there is a man that can show us all how to keep it fresh all the time. If we were all fans like Roy(bluesman) who thinks Joe can do no wrong then Joe would never get any constructive criticism. I personaly liked Joe's first power trio the best but one of my favorite shows was the one with Mark Epstein at Shank Hall last year. I do like keyboards but I prefer Joe in a power trio. I will continue to spread the music of Bonamassa no matter what path he takes, unless he goes christian rock..lol... like Mr. Zimmerman did in the late 70's. PEACE.

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

backroad junkie wrote:

I always put Joe right up there with SRV, Rory G and Sonny Landreth and I want him to be the biggest and greatest guitar player on the planet because he deserves it.

I want Joe to be one of the biggest and greatest ARTISTS on the planet. But that's just me.

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Hi backroad junkie. There are many matching sentiments voiced in these threads as well as access to interviews by Joe. Try to read some and see if it helps. Joe is young with much more to come. He's not lost any skills. It's ok to voice your opinions...Cathy

4 Reply by Jaci (edited by Jaci 2007-11-08 19:22:59)

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Backroad junkie - mentioning Shank Hall - are you from Wisconsin?
Honest and constructive opinions are fine and every artist should take
them into consideration as I'm sure Joe does.
But.....  don't you  attack my friend Roy - we just spent 5 days
with him and you couldn't meet a nicer guy - we had the time of our
lives taking in all the Joe shows.  Artists should have a sense of humor
and enjoy their fans even those of us "with blinders on" and all the
corny things we do  I hope Joe has fun with every minute of his stardom.
Jaci

Lose your dreams and you will lose your mind.  Mick Jagger

5 Reply by Stu Craig (edited by Stu Craig 2007-11-08 23:04:28)

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

I'm not sure what the future holds, other than it's going to be an enjoyable ride. Joe had to drag me along for a while - almost kicking and screaming - as he transitioned from Strat to Gibson, and from the old power trio to the new 4 piece. Once I quit fighting with myself though, I was able to reconnect on an emotional level with Joe's music. It's easy to let personal preferences and expectations get in the way sometimes.

My favorite Zep albums are I and II - but had they not progressed, Zep would have never recorded IV and Physical Graffitti. I'm sure there were lots of diehard Zep fans who felt the way you do now. Thanks goodness they didn't listen!

The one thing that Joe has consistently shown me is that he will continue to grow and change. Every record has been different, and each CD documents but one step down a long road to a destination unknown. Let's enjoy the journey.

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Amen, Stu.

I've liked all of Joe's incarnations so far. I don't see why I wouldn't like whatever comes in the future.

I'm just saying.
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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Future looks bright to me......:D

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

smile Joe's in a league all his own smile

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9 Reply by Shredit (edited by Shredit 2007-11-09 00:56:06)

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Hmmm........27 TIMES!!!.....Wow thats a lot, glad you decided it's time to join the forum. Without making you or anyone else angry at me, let me just say Joe has made a decision to be his own man, it may not be popular with the majority but so what. Let his carrer unfold, then judge his whole body of work. He probably laughs at his friends as well as his foes, why?..because he has rare skills that seperate him from most others. I dont think were even close to seing his ceiling!! Heh maybe Joe will mix in a little "christian rock"...lol...I'd love to hear it. Glad your here to voice your opinion, nothing wrong with that, i got plenty too, but I'm biased and I admit it. I will end with this, just go with the flow, this album was nothing like I expected, but it's my favorite to date, and yes i have EVERYTHING that he's put out.

Dave

P.S......check out "Rodrigo y Gabriela" if you want some flamenco  instrumental, you might like "stairway to heaven", hey got to keep your head open to it all...lol...have a great day  smile

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Deezer wrote:
backroad junkie wrote:

I always put Joe right up there with SRV, Rory G and Sonny Landreth and I want him to be the biggest and greatest guitar player on the planet because he deserves it.

I want Joe to be one of the biggest and greatest ARTISTS on the planet. But that's just me.

And Me!

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Jaci wrote:

Backroad junkie - mentioning Shank Hall - are you from Wisconsin?
Honest and constructive opinions are fine and every artist should take
them into consideration as I'm sure Joe does.
But.....  don't you  attack my friend Roy - we just spent 5 days
with him and you couldn't meet a nicer guy - we had the time of our
lives taking in all the Joe shows.  Artists should have a sense of humor
and enjoy their fans even those of us "with blinders on" and all the
corny things we do  I hope Joe has fun with every minute of his stardom.
Jaci

Jaci, Backroad was at the Milwaukee show and chimed in on the Show Reviews and Setlists topic Pitman Theatre Milwaukee 11/3/07, agreeing with Reverend Paul about something lacking.  These honest opinions are indeed welcome, but to call someone a "Joe can do no wrong" fan is not really fair.  I honestly respect people who want this or that, but hey, these discussions have been going on for YEARS now about Joe should be / shouldn't be playing here, shouldn't this, management should this, why doesn't his manager...it's all out there, so again get in here and bring it.  But as surely as someone is allowed to find disappointment(s), large or small, some, myself definitely included, really have a difficult time ALLOWING ourselves major disappointments, let alone overlooking, perhaps never mentioning, mentioning with guarded words, or plain ignoring what we "think", and just stick with the "feel".  The reason  we are such a vocally vociferous bunch "in here" and "out there" (including the professionals on several fronts) is, speaking unabashedly for many,  (to the Beatles tune "I Feel Fine") "we're in love with Joe and we feel fine".  and I can add we're in love with Joe, among OTHER people, places & things, AND we feel fine, generally, about a lot of things...about ourselves and yet not just ourselves...I don't know if I spoke entirely well just then, but I think it's somewhat of a consensus...
When Rev P reviews the Milwaukee concert and comments "but this seemed like a show for the Joe can do no wrong fans not the kind that will win over new fans", I have to take severe umbrage to that, not because I find it offensive, because it's not, it's just is opinion.  But because it is just not backed up by the facts of more people than ever are buying Joe's music, attending his concerts, applauding his performances, voting him awards, visiting his website, joining his forum, talking about him, putting money in his pocket, and most importantly, excitedly telling someone else about him. TGIF, those facts are Joe Friday checked.  A many, many blues moons post ago probably only I recall as I was the one who wrote it was, if Joe Bonamassa made a children's recording with just an acoustic guitar, I would buy it.  I not only stand by that, I look forward to it! A World Music recording? I look forward to it! If he wants to hybridize a world music with free form fusion recording (sort of Bill Laswell's Tabla Beat Science), hey why not? I agree with Phil Cornell (not a man of many words, unlike some) the future looks bright to me cool ...and Stu Craig likely speaks for many more than I when he says when I quit fighting with myself, I am able to connect on an EMOTIONAL level with Joe's music.
I gave my sons and nephews advice on women, and said, quote "if your woman thinks you are wrong, guess what? You ARE wrong" unquote.  Now obviously that cannot be true if you "think" about it.  But it is true if she "feels" it.  Any man wants to argue with the illogic of my statement, good luck with those blues and your woman...Peace...and Love, out!!

Rock On & Keep the Faith,
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12 Reply by Deezer (edited by Deezer 2007-11-09 01:52:27)

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

And may I say, we're all fans. Some of the fans, they're really obsessive, and they eat, sleep, and breathe Joe. That's not really me. I love Joe, but at the end of the day, I just love too much music to give all my time to his stuff. That being said, my tracker that tracks which artists get the most play in my iTunes has Joe at #4, behind Eric Clapton, SRV, and ZZ Top. Not in bad company, I say. But you know what, these I guess "Joe can do no wrong" folks as they have been called, are fine with me. That makes them happy. It gives them joy. I consider myself a diehard, but not as diehard as these folks. Mainly Bluesman, pattyluvsjoe, and so forth. These people are obsessed with Joe. And you know what? Let them. It makes them happy. WAVE YOUR FREAK FLAG HIGH as Jimi Hendrix famously said. THIS IS A GOOD THING. It takes all kinds. And frankly, just since this forum was established and the old one was done away with, I have seen more differences in the types of people in this forum than ever before. Young and old, men and women, guitar enthusiasts and just lovers of good tunes, "can't do no wrong" and just passing interest. And that shows that Joe is indeed growing and expanding his audience. And this is a good thing.

One thing is for sure: I for one can't wait to see Joe's next move, and the next one, and the next one. Because that is what you do with a great artist. My dad once told me how it seemed like everybody waited with baited breath to see what Led Zeppelin was going to do next. And when they made their move, they were either heavily applauded or heavily booed, usually about the same. But the point is that when you have both haters and lovers (not saying that you are this way backroad, just on a tangent) you're doing something right. Because you're making something that is drawing attention. The Beatles did it. The Stones did it. Clapton did it. Zeppelin did it. SRV did it. Joe is doing it.

My one complaint with Joe, if you could call it a complaint, is that he has one area that he needs to work on. The guitar, that doesn't even have to be questioned. The vocals, he's nailed it with Sloe Gin. No, it's his songwriting. And I'm not even saying that Joe needs to work on his songwriting (songs like The River and Bridge and Dirt In My Pocket prove that he can write great tunes). No, he needs to realize that he doesn't have to do covers. He can write great tunes. I would love to see him write more tunes on his records. Get inside his head, put his thoughts and feelings down. HE CAN DO IT, and he can do it well. Richmond, Dirt, The River, Around The Bend, Bridge To Better Days. Joe can become a great songwriter as evidenced by these great songs. I just wish he would do more. That being said, don't do away with the covers, because it's always interesting to see what he's going to come up with in that department. But I would like to see the balanced tipped in the way of originals.

But hey, if that's the worst I can come up with, Joe is doing all right.

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I don't really care one way or another Deezer, as covers have always been a part of true blues heritage, probably moreso by far than any others, excepting Classical which is effectively all covers ( hmm ).  But I say play original OR cover, but MAKE it original. But I like the idea of more and more originals.

Rock On & Keep the Faith,
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14 Reply by pattyluvsjoe (edited by pattyluvsjoe 2007-11-09 02:30:55)

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Yeah,
     I wear my heart on my sleeve, too...........would you please refer to me in the future
     this way:   pattyluvsjoe is an ardent follower of Joe  smile     It has a much nicer ring to it.
                                                                                                    thanks.....plj




P.S.  I got a solution, maybe Roy & I could have our own Subject Heading here on the forum.
                                                                 lol

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15 Reply by Nancy in Chicago (edited by Nancy in Chicago 2007-11-09 06:46:43)

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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

The hubby and I have discussions about Joe all the time (no surprise there!), usually with him voicing a criticism and me defending. So one day he says to me that the difference between us is that he *loves* Joe and I'm *in love* with Joe. Meaning I'm a "Joe can do no wrong" fan. Which is not entirely true since I understand his criticisms may be valid and sometimes ARE valid because he's a musician and I'm not. I just don't care about the flaws, that's all. Maybe that's what being *in love* is all about. smile

I'm just saying.
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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Rocket wrote:
Jaci wrote:

Backroad junkie - mentioning Shank Hall - are you from Wisconsin?
Honest and constructive opinions are fine and every artist should take
them into consideration as I'm sure Joe does.
But.....  don't you  attack my friend Roy - we just spent 5 days
with him and you couldn't meet a nicer guy - we had the time of our
lives taking in all the Joe shows.  Artists should have a sense of humor
and enjoy their fans even those of us "with blinders on" and all the
corny things we do  I hope Joe has fun with every minute of his stardom.
Jaci

....... But because it is just not backed up by the facts of more people than ever are buying Joe's music, attending his concerts, applauding his performances, voting him awards, visiting his website, joining his forum, talking about him, putting money in his pocket, and most importantly, excitedly telling someone else about him.....

These are the facts that let me to my earlier post......better album sales and more tickets sold. While none of it may be like it "used to be", the facts are Joe's business is growing. One fan at a time.

big_smile

PC

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Rocket wrote:

I don't really care one way or another Deezer, as covers have always been a part of true blues heritage, probably moreso by far than any others, excepting Classical which is effectively all covers ( hmm ).  But I say play original OR cover, but MAKE it original. But I like the idea of more and more originals.

Rock On & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

I say keep playing both.  Bands doing covers is what has helped me to become an "archeologist of music".  It helps me to connect with the musicians before my time and appreciate where it all came from.  I'm not so sure how I would have responded to hearing Robert Johnson for the first time had I not heard Clapton and other artists do it first, but that's just me.

"There is nothing to it.  You only have to hit the right notes at the right time and the instrument plays itself."---Johann Sebastian Bach
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Re: What does Joe's future hold?

pcornell wrote:
Rocket wrote:
Jaci wrote:

Backroad junkie - mentioning Shank Hall - are you from Wisconsin?
Honest and constructive opinions are fine and every artist should take
them into consideration as I'm sure Joe does.
But.....  don't you  attack my friend Roy - we just spent 5 days
with him and you couldn't meet a nicer guy - we had the time of our
lives taking in all the Joe shows.  Artists should have a sense of humor
and enjoy their fans even those of us "with blinders on" and all the
corny things we do  I hope Joe has fun with every minute of his stardom.
Jaci

....... But because it is just not backed up by the facts of more people than ever are buying Joe's music, attending his concerts, applauding his performances, voting him awards, visiting his website, joining his forum, talking about him, putting money in his pocket, and most importantly, excitedly telling someone else about him.....

These are the facts that let me to my earlier post......better album sales and more tickets sold. While none of it may be like it "used to be", the facts are Joe's business is growing. One fan at a time.

big_smile

PC

You are right Phil, it is a business and Joe has had to take positive steps to get him out of the bars where we could see him 20+ times.  But now that he has expanded his horizons, with his band, his talent, guitars and music some may not like that.  And that is ok, Joe cannot please everybody 100 percent of time, even though he will sure try.  Some of us have seen Joe multiple times over the years, from the van days, to where he is now and I am personally so happy for his current success.  I know 2008 will bring some more changes that we may not readily accept but we will be behind him all the way!

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