Topic: Seeing Joe live must be exhilarating

I can't imagine the awesome feeling of walking into a venue knowing Joe is about to perform.  Myself, having social phobia I will never know what it's like.  I didn't always have SP.  In my early days I went to many, many, concerts.  At age 37 I was diagnosed with having bipolar disorder.  At the same time is when I developed my social phobia.  I guess that is why I have bought every one of Joe's live DVDs in all their splendor...Blu Ray. 

Congrats. to all of you who have had the privilege of watching him in person.  A DVD simply can't capture the encapsulating ambience surrounding one of Joe's shows.

"There's not much left for me to tell, I just got back up each time I fell"

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JHLesPaul59 wrote:

I can't imagine the awesome feeling of walking into a venue knowing Joe is about to perform.  Myself, having social phobia I will never know what it's like.  I didn't always have SP.  In my early days I went to many, many, concerts.  At age 37 I was diagnosed with having bipolar disorder.  At the same time is when I developed my social phobia.  I guess that is why I have bought every one of Joe's live DVDs in all their splendor...Blu Ray. 

Congrats. to all of you who have had the privilege of watching him in person.  A DVD simply can't capture the encapsulating ambience surrounding one of Joe's shows.

Hi JH,

I am so sorry to hear of your issues.  I can somewhat relate. Although I have been lucky enough to see Joe live 6 times and meet him and the band members as well, I became disabled a few years ago and have not been able  to attend any shows since due to uncontrollable physical pain among other things not to mention having no money to do so.

It is a huge loss to me as The Blues, and especially Joe's music, has been the one lifeline  I have in life. I, like you, literally live The Blues every day and it's his music that somehow helps me get through each day. Every time I hear his music, it resonates on a level I can't describe. It's as if through his music he knows how I feel like no one else.

I do my best to continue to enjoy Joe's music through fan pics, videos, and chatting with all my Joe friends. It's not the same as being at a live show and participating like I used to but it's a life line I will never give up.

Unfortunately I can't change your situation nor mine but I can be someone you can talk to. There are many of us here and on Facebook that consider ourselves one big Bonafamily, united through a love of Joe's music.

I'm proud to know you and congratulate you on displaying the courage to share your personal story with us.

Yours in friendship,
Jim

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Thank you Jim.  I can definitely sympathize with you no longer being able to attend his shows.  Ok, I hope I'm not getting too deep here.  Being Bipolar, along with suffering through clinical depression, and a list of other disabilities, one of the scariest and most debilitating symptoms is when I fall into DEEP depression.  No words can truly describe the emotional pain associated with such an episode.  It is severe enough that many people who suffer from bipolar have turned to doing the unthinkable just to stop that overwhelming internal pain.  The sense of loneliness, etc. is simply too much for many people to handle.

When I get into one of those episodes there really isn't anything to do to ease the sense of "needing" to join the long list of others who decided to take the "easy" way out.  If I can explain one thing it is that bipolar disorder is a chemical imbalance in the brain and NOT a psychological disorder.  I worked for many years after being diagnosed, always been overlooked by a therapist and psychiatrist.  My doctors suggested I go on disability for years.  I absolutely refused.  I loved my patients too much to just leave them behind.  No way.  Well, one day I, unfortunately, reached the point where it was all too much.  The next thing I remember is waking up in the hospital.  I was extremely lucky to make it out of that one.  At that point my doctors revoked their support of me being able to continue to work. 

It really did not hit me until I got home.  I walked back and forth then BAMM!  Lucky enough I had called my father to let him know what had happened.  By the time I reached my home my sisters, brother, and parents were there waiting for me.  When it hit me that my career was over I must have cried out loud for hours, until I was so tired of crying that I fell asleep.  What bothered me so much was "who could possibly take care of my patients as well as I did?", "who is going to love my patients as much as me?", etc. etc.  The next few weeks were also horrible.  I would wake up each morning, put both feet on the floor and think about the patients I was going to see that day.  In all of about 1/2 a second the realization of there were no more patients was crushing.  I would hop back into bed and cry myself to sleep.  Ya, 45 years old (at the time) and literally cry myself to sleep. 

Let's get back to Joe.  I can say with all honesty that the ONLY thing that keeps me from taking the same route I had attempted in the past whenever I was hit with one of my deepest depression episodes is watching a dvd of one of Joe's live performances.  I already know to call my father whenever I reach a point to where I am in danger.  He comes over and simply sits there with me in my living room.  After a few minutes he knows to put Joe into my dvd player and slowly but surely I am pulled out of this severe state of depression.  It is no stretch to say Joe has literally saved my life time and time again. 

How do you repay someone for something like that?  How do you tell somebody that they have on several occasions saved the life of someone they have never met?  What words can completely convey the gratitude I have for all Joe has done for me and for many others that his music touches?  A dream come true would be to sit with Joe for five minutes and fill him in on the impact he has had on my life, not to mention the lives of my wife and children.  Heck, where would they be...never mind.  However, hearing something like that could be too overwhelming for many people to handle.  Who knows how Joe would react to hearing such a story.  So, I will continue to troll this forum and enjoy the time with so many other Bonamassa fans. 

I hope I did not bum you out with my story of the impact Joe has had on my life.  I wish the message was not so long but I wanted to put things into perspective for you.  I never feel ashamed to share with people that I am bipolar.  The mere fact I am still here can serve as an inspiration for others suffering from some sort of debilitating disability.  We are strong.  You are strong, my friend.  I hope one day your pain will begin to subside, allowing you to return to the life you enjoyed prior to the beginning of your current physical state.  Thanks for "listening".  I hope I did not scare you off.  I know this is a Joe Bonamassa forum and hopefully no one will accuse me of using this place for anything other than what it is...a place to share wonderful stories about one of our favorite artists.  Many blessings.

Jesus

"There's not much left for me to tell, I just got back up each time I fell"

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My heart goes out to you both. All I can say is there is great healing power in music. It has brought me back from a really dark place. Specifically Joe and his music. So when your down or having a very bad day pop in that DVD or cd and let the music take you to that happy place. In closing Joe reads this forum and I am sure he is touched by your comments. Good luck to you both.
Cheers Ron

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Thank you Ron.  My disability is something that I understand, and thereby, do what I can to keep it under control.  But, please let me say the main topic here is Joe's music and how his live shows have served to give me strength.  I can't really put my hands on it other than to say I love the passion he shows for his music and guitars in general.  Guitars live in my soul.  I don't know how else to explain it other than remembering when I was forced into early retirement there was no choice but to sell each of my guitars to deal with the sudden drop in income.  Every time I shipped out one of "my" guitars it was truly as if a part of my soul was ripped from me.  Watching Joe enjoy his guitars makes me feel like I am not alone in my deep appreciation of the instrument.

"There's not much left for me to tell, I just got back up each time I fell"

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JHLesPaul59 wrote:

Thank you Jim.  I can definitely sympathize with you no longer being able to attend his shows.  Ok, I hope I'm not getting too deep here.  Being Bipolar, along with suffering through clinical depression, and a list of other disabilities, one of the scariest and most debilitating symptoms is when I fall into DEEP depression.  No words can truly describe the emotional pain associated with such an episode.  It is severe enough that many people who suffer from bipolar have turned to doing the unthinkable just to stop that overwhelming internal pain.  The sense of loneliness, etc. is simply too much for many people to handle.

When I get into one of those episodes there really isn't anything to do to ease the sense of "needing" to join the long list of others who decided to take the "easy" way out.  If I can explain one thing it is that bipolar disorder is a chemical imbalance in the brain and NOT a psychological disorder.  I worked for many years after being diagnosed, always been overlooked by a therapist and psychiatrist.  My doctors suggested I go on disability for years.  I absolutely refused.  I loved my patients too much to just leave them behind.  No way.  Well, one day I, unfortunately, reached the point where it was all too much.  The next thing I remember is waking up in the hospital.  I was extremely lucky to make it out of that one.  At that point my doctors revoked their support of me being able to continue to work. 

It really did not hit me until I got home.  I walked back and forth then BAMM!  Lucky enough I had called my father to let him know what had happened.  By the time I reached my home my sisters, brother, and parents were there waiting for me.  When it hit me that my career was over I must have cried out loud for hours, until I was so tired of crying that I fell asleep.  What bothered me so much was "who could possibly take care of my patients as well as I did?", "who is going to love my patients as much as me?", etc. etc.  The next few weeks were also horrible.  I would wake up each morning, put both feet on the floor and think about the patients I was going to see that day.  In all of about 1/2 a second the realization of there were no more patients was crushing.  I would hop back into bed and cry myself to sleep.  Ya, 45 years old (at the time) and literally cry myself to sleep. 

Let's get back to Joe.  I can say with all honesty that the ONLY thing that keeps me from taking the same route I had attempted in the past whenever I was hit with one of my deepest depression episodes is watching a dvd of one of Joe's live performances.  I already know to call my father whenever I reach a point to where I am in danger.  He comes over and simply sits there with me in my living room.  After a few minutes he knows to put Joe into my dvd player and slowly but surely I am pulled out of this severe state of depression.  It is no stretch to say Joe has literally saved my life time and time again. 

How do you repay someone for something like that?  How do you tell somebody that they have on several occasions saved the life of someone they have never met?  What words can completely convey the gratitude I have for all Joe has done for me and for many others that his music touches?  A dream come true would be to sit with Joe for five minutes and fill him in on the impact he has had on my life, not to mention the lives of my wife and children.  Heck, where would they be...never mind.  However, hearing something like that could be too overwhelming for many people to handle.  Who knows how Joe would react to hearing such a story.  So, I will continue to troll this forum and enjoy the time with so many other Bonamassa fans. 

I hope I did not bum you out with my story of the impact Joe has had on my life.  I wish the message was not so long but I wanted to put things into perspective for you.  I never feel ashamed to share with people that I am bipolar.  The mere fact I am still here can serve as an inspiration for others suffering from some sort of debilitating disability.  We are strong.  You are strong, my friend.  I hope one day your pain will begin to subside, allowing you to return to the life you enjoyed prior to the beginning of your current physical state.  Thanks for "listening".  I hope I did not scare you off.  I know this is a Joe Bonamassa forum and hopefully no one will accuse me of using this place for anything other than what it is...a place to share wonderful stories about one of our favorite artists.  Many blessings.

Jesus

I know exactly how you feel as I have been that desperate many times too. You did not scare me off - knowing what it's like myself, all I can do is tell you that you are not alone and there is at least one person out here (me) that "gets it".

Of course if you look through the forum as well as the many Joe groups on Facebook, you will see a lot of stories similar to ours and how Joe's music changed their lives. I was lucky enough to  telly story directly to him at a meet n greet event.  The night of the concert, he came over to me and played Mountain Time for me. He did not move for the entire song. For that brief few minutes, it was as if we were the only two people in a sold oit show. That is something I draw on alot and will never forget. Needless to say, he knows how much his music means to us and that is one reason he puts his heart and soul into his work.

I suggest you go to Joe's main Web page and click the contact link and send an email to Joe's staff asking them to please pass it to Joe. I know them well and I am sure they would be happy to do that. Maybe telling him how you feel  would be good therapy - it was for me.

I doubt anyone here would take you to task for expressing how much Joe's music has impacted your life. We all feel like that in our own way, otherwise we would not be here.

If you are on Facebook, email or PM me with your contact info so I can get you into some of the private Joe groups there. I think that would be very helpful and open up a lot more Joe content to you.

Peace,
Jim

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cindyron wrote:

My heart goes out to you both. All I can say is there is great healing power in music. It has brought me back from a really dark place. Specifically Joe and his music. So when your down or having a very bad day pop in that DVD or cd and let the music take you to that happy place. In closing Joe reads this forum and I am sure he is touched by your comments. Good luck to you both.
Cheers Ron

Thanks Ron. As always your words have a way of uplifting the spirit!

Jim

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JHLesPaul59 wrote:

Thank you Jim.  I can definitely sympathize with you no longer being able to attend his shows.  Ok, I hope I'm not getting too deep here.  Being Bipolar, along with suffering through clinical depression, and a list of other disabilities, one of the scariest and most debilitating symptoms is when I fall into DEEP depression.  No words can truly describe the emotional pain associated with such an episode.  It is severe enough that many people who suffer from bipolar have turned to doing the unthinkable just to stop that overwhelming internal pain.  The sense of loneliness, etc. is simply too much for many people to handle.

When I get into one of those episodes there really isn't anything to do to ease the sense of "needing" to join the long list of others who decided to take the "easy" way out.  If I can explain one thing it is that bipolar disorder is a chemical imbalance in the brain and NOT a psychological disorder.  I worked for many years after being diagnosed, always been overlooked by a therapist and psychiatrist.  My doctors suggested I go on disability for years.  I absolutely refused.  I loved my patients too much to just leave them behind.  No way.  Well, one day I, unfortunately, reached the point where it was all too much.  The next thing I remember is waking up in the hospital.  I was extremely lucky to make it out of that one.  At that point my doctors revoked their support of me being able to continue to work. 

It really did not hit me until I got home.  I walked back and forth then BAMM!  Lucky enough I had called my father to let him know what had happened.  By the time I reached my home my sisters, brother, and parents were there waiting for me.  When it hit me that my career was over I must have cried out loud for hours, until I was so tired of crying that I fell asleep.  What bothered me so much was "who could possibly take care of my patients as well as I did?", "who is going to love my patients as much as me?", etc. etc.  The next few weeks were also horrible.  I would wake up each morning, put both feet on the floor and think about the patients I was going to see that day.  In all of about 1/2 a second the realization of there were no more patients was crushing.  I would hop back into bed and cry myself to sleep.  Ya, 45 years old (at the time) and literally cry myself to sleep. 

Let's get back to Joe.  I can say with all honesty that the ONLY thing that keeps me from taking the same route I had attempted in the past whenever I was hit with one of my deepest depression episodes is watching a dvd of one of Joe's live performances.  I already know to call my father whenever I reach a point to where I am in danger.  He comes over and simply sits there with me in my living room.  After a few minutes he knows to put Joe into my dvd player and slowly but surely I am pulled out of this severe state of depression.  It is no stretch to say Joe has literally saved my life time and time again. 

How do you repay someone for something like that?  How do you tell somebody that they have on several occasions saved the life of someone they have never met?  What words can completely convey the gratitude I have for all Joe has done for me and for many others that his music touches?  A dream come true would be to sit with Joe for five minutes and fill him in on the impact he has had on my life, not to mention the lives of my wife and children.  Heck, where would they be...never mind.  However, hearing something like that could be too overwhelming for many people to handle.  Who knows how Joe would react to hearing such a story.  So, I will continue to troll this forum and enjoy the time with so many other Bonamassa fans. 

I hope I did not bum you out with my story of the impact Joe has had on my life.  I wish the message was not so long but I wanted to put things into perspective for you.  I never feel ashamed to share with people that I am bipolar.  The mere fact I am still here can serve as an inspiration for others suffering from some sort of debilitating disability.  We are strong.  You are strong, my friend.  I hope one day your pain will begin to subside, allowing you to return to the life you enjoyed prior to the beginning of your current physical state.  Thanks for "listening".  I hope I did not scare you off.  I know this is a Joe Bonamassa forum and hopefully no one will accuse me of using this place for anything other than what it is...a place to share wonderful stories about one of our favorite artists.  Many blessings.

Jesus

Actually you just did. Joe reads the forum regularly. My dad has struggled with Manic Depressive Disorder since the 90's. For a son raising a family it is tough having to also deal with a father who is in crisis. Sounds like you have a supportive family and they know how to help you cope. I struggle as a son helping care for my father but that is what we are called to do. My dad helped me and now I'm just returning the favor. My dad gave me the music bug and one of the biggest moments we got to share when he was still able to occasionally beat his depression was going to see Dave Brubek. Maybe some day you and your dad can make it to a show. Always hope.

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Thank you, Jim.  I can only imagine the strength it must take to be there for your father.  Being on the opposite side I have seen all too often the terrible side of this disorder.  I have said things I would give anything to be able to take back.  I just wanted to say I have the utmost respect for you and what you have been able to do for your father.  No matter what he says or doesn't say, I can tell you he appreciates you being there for him.  As a father our biggest fear is that we may drive our children away with our words and/or by our actions.  Many years ago I sat my two boys down and explained to them about my disability.  My words were simple, "I take full responsibility for my actions.  I'll never put it off on my disability.  But, please understand that every single day I work very hard to be the best father possible.  I love you both and will always be here for you."  You're a blessing for your father, Jim.  Tell your dad I said hello.  Us manic depressives have to stick together you know :-) 

Jesse

"There's not much left for me to tell, I just got back up each time I fell"

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Too bad about the Agoraphobia because Joe's shows are very high quality, and you usually don't have a bunch of out of control idiots, because Joe's fan base is older, averaging around 50 something. He also has the distinction of always being on time. He has no warm up band, and he always gives a great 2 hour plus performance. Of course, if you've seen his live videos, then you've gotten most of the experience already. I must admit however, that I love live music, and there is absolutely nothing like the fan/artist exchange in a live music setting. It's why my friends and I always attempt to get seats or stand close to the stage. That relationship adds a completely new layer to the experience. When you make close eye contact with any amazing artist, it's a special moment. That's why at 53, even though I'm slowing down, I still see 4-8 shows a year. I really wish you could experience this. Music is a great way to deal with life..I don't know what I'd do without it !

Murfdog

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murfdog wrote:

Too bad about the Agoraphobia because Joe's shows are very high quality, and you usually don't have a bunch of out of control idiots, because Joe's fan base is older, averaging around 50 something. He also has the distinction of always being on time. He has no warm up band, and he always gives a great 2 hour plus performance. Of course, if you've seen his live videos, then you've gotten most of the experience already. I must admit however, that I love live music, and there is absolutely nothing like the fan/artist exchange in a live music setting. It's why my friends and I always attempt to get seats or stand close to the stage. That relationship adds a completely new layer to the experience. When you make close eye contact with any amazing artist, it's a special moment. That's why at 53, even though I'm slowing down, I still see 4-8 shows a year. I really wish you could experience this. Music is a great way to deal with life..I don't know what I'd do without it !


Without a doubt I agree that music is a great way to deal with life.  If it were not for my agoraphobia I would definitely go to live shows.  I absolutely love the sound of a live performance.  So often what you hear on the album (showing my age) is over processed and keeps the true music fans from hearing exactly how the artist sounds.  I love to hear the tone the artist is able to achieve during a live performance. 

You could not be more accurate when you mentioned being able to make eye contact with the artist.  I have sort of a funny story about that exact situation.  I bought my wife and I tickets to go see Clay Aiken live in Houston, TX.  I am as far from an Aiken fan as they come.  With the exception of Joe, my choice of music is pure heavy metal.  Ya, 47 years old and still listening to metal.  I went all out and bought the best seats I could get my hands on.  Clay, at the time, was my wife's favorite singer.  Somehow I managed to get tickets somewhere around the fifth row or something.  I was surrounded by all women.  At 6' 3" I stood well above everyone around me.  It turned out that Clay's stage had a sort of ramp up the middle of the stage which extended into the first several rows.  To the surprise of myself and my wife we ended up being only two or three seats to the side of where he stood during the majority of the show.  The "icky" thing was I could swear Clay kept making eye contact with me.  Even worse, he would stare at me.  It got to the point where I had to look anywhere else other than at him.  Even my wife said she noticed he seemed to be looking in our direction a lot.  "Ya, he was staring right into my eyes".  For some odd reason I think she actually got a little jealous. 

That was the second to the last show I attended.  My final concert was Creed when they reunited for a single album and subsequent tour.  Unfortunately, I was unable to stay for the entire concert.  I gave it a try but after around 30 minutes I was almost running out of that place. 

I have friends who are in a metal band.  A few days ago they were traveling through Texas, opening for Megadeth (easily one of my favorite all-time bands).  I had the opportunity to go see my buddies and then hang with Dave Mustaine for a bit.  It would have been a great time.  But, it wasn't meant to be.  The anxiety leading up to the concert was enough to get the best of me.  Also, Marty Friedman, from Megadeth fame (one of greats when it comes to guitar players) was here in San Antonio.  Another one of my friends use to be in Marty's band after he left Megadeth and went solo.  So, the plan was to get to the show early and hang around with my buddy and Marty.  That, too, would have been a lot of fun.  Once again, it never came to fruition.  I have learned that attending live shows is a part of my history. 

In conclusion (I feel as though I'm back in college writing one of those 25 page "essays" my professors use to love to hand out), I will say that IF Joe comes through San Antonio then I am going to give it a try.  As of yet I haven't quite worked out the logistics of how I am going to manage it but I know I will at least try.  The thing that sort of bites is I could end up spending a lot of money on a ticket then realize I wasn't even able to reach the venue before my anxiety hit me.  But, I will keep a positive attitude and say "I'm going to do it".  We never know what life has in store for us.  Maybe that'll be the day I am able to attend, and enjoy myself at a live show.

"There's not much left for me to tell, I just got back up each time I fell"