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Re: Hammersmith Apollo March 2015

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for goodness sakes Rocket, those are darn near fighting words where I come from.
you can ignore the thread you know.
i know your intentions are good but this is one of those things IMHO where folks are giving their opinion and feedback which is not necessarily favorable but is for the most part. complaining about the comments or that folks don't see eye to eye with you gives some a feeling that the replies make their own testimony seem more negative than it is.
its completely reasonable, in fact usually adviseable, to know what you are plunking money down for before putting it down. since tickets are on sale and early is how to get the best ones than it is a good time to say if there is something more. not necessary mind you but given the vibe about the gig....

anyway please let forum folks new or old have a safe place to put their reasonable comments without threat

Put up a video from a Godfather movie and that is a threat? roll I'm just tired of hearing what amounts to, in my opinion and as my perception, to a bunch of whining.  That's MY feedback and it NOT a threat.  I invite invectiveness towards myself when I feel I have an observation of it being lobbed too close for comfort.   And taking the piss out amongst other "safe" and reasonable comments doesn't necessarily seem like a bunch of kind comments to me.  So, call me paranoid, easily offended, or worse.  Let freedom sting!  Some people are too sensitive. When I say that, I  suppose it will at some point apply back at me personally.  Maybe now. So be it if so.

SO THERE! tongue or just be mad at me mad

I am no more self-righteous than some of these commentaries...

Ignore the thread? I can be ignored just as easy.

Alienation can go both ways. 

The fact remains no one excepting those involved or close to the negotiations, decisions, and final planning know what the future holds.  It is called speculation.  Gambling.  Many have opted out.  I want to stay opted in.  What some talking heads here say may have an effect on MY possibility to attend in England once again.  I am not stirring the pot just for fun.  I'd settle for a free show by Joe Bonamassa any day.  Historically, he doesn't perform for free.   Like I said, maybe I am paranoid.  Or maybe I am not...a bunch or irrelevance to me. 

And I personally and humbly believe, with no desire let alone need for agreement or counterclaim, J & R Adventures doesn't need to justify anything.  The Rolling Stones & Paul McCartney's of British fame (fair examples, especially given they are retreading the tired and true, whereas even if one wishes to accuse that Joe B just may be retreading the blues, the blues players, and Joe IS a Bluesman, are always treading deep waters, which begs to ask what would YOU do to survive if you cannot even swim?) sure don't have to justify any of their fee price structuring when they invade America, so why should Joe Bonamassa?! On his own forum?  Just because he is wildly popular in England???!!!  Just because of the Independence???!!! roll Supply vs. demand always rules, and as far as pricing here in the US of A for Joe Bonamassa, I will put up or shut up, literally.  And me shutting up means I would hide the pain away by expressing regret-I have a history of it for goodness sake.  Established forum members know it.  Those not so established, now do.  I dig Joe's playing and entertaining so much I should ask for a rack on the roof of the bus or a job traveling with him to reach my desired attendance satisfaction level.  If this is all about the best seats pricing, here and NOW (which means others later WILL be lower), and everyone wants the best for less, I'll go on record saying I'll settle for LESS for the BEST!  Maybe that goes over some heads...Man, if I smoked I'd I'd maybe have to go buy a pipe to put that in and smoke it in for my own genuine sanguine serenity... big_smile  Maybe that went over some heads, too.

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PS-time for some musical epilog to this...hmmm..lessee...The Storm, nah, Stone Cold Hearted, naw, Trouble Is My Business, eh eww, aha The Good Luck You're Having- safely &  reasonably devisive and / or decisive...PERFECT...it's all perceptions...Hmmm Horn Section, Special...hmm...A blasting horn section sure wood make that extra special, Natasha, especially if announced to be performed next March at one of Joe Bonamassa's Hammersmith Apollo shows-I'd pay over 10 times my body weight in kilograms as British Pounds to be there and witness THAT lol cool

PPS-Michael, I'd pay that calculated price for your ticket too big_smile

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Re: Hammersmith Apollo March 2015

Sorry I hope I didn't contribute to stirring the poo stew

I just feel when a group are complaining I try to take a different side.
Whether I can afford to go or not. It sucks that people automatically assume the worst.

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Where's your Faith, Jane?!  If Derek continues with Joe, he'd probably LOVE to play that pipe organ...I get excited over pipe organs...no joking, and I'll make no pipe organs jokes...they are impressive, some extremely so.

The rest. I'm the cauSIN of it all...I'm just a wayword child...

I'm done debating and no one has to fret their opinion will bait me to further comments, contrasting or complementing, regardless of their words chosen or way they are or seem parsed.

So, turn up the complaints if wished, only be concerned how Joe will bear them, not me.

I am going to try to be there, and, at this point, it IS a far-fetched desire, but since I feel it may be "Special," and I may be presetting myself up for regrets (again), it's my (sorry) story & I'm schticking to it!

Hope to see or at least hear from those who take the plunge. smile

Over & O-U-T (as far as further comments regarding this specific thread or any JB March 2015 Hammersmith topic period, until it is in the books)


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Jane H. wrote:

for goodness sakes Rocket, those are darn near fighting words where I come from.
you can ignore the thread you know.
i know your intentions are good but this is one of those things IMHO where folks are giving their opinion and feedback which is not necessarily favorable but is for the most part. complaining about the comments or that folks don't see eye to eye with you gives some a feeling that the replies make their own testimony seem more negative than it is.
its completely reasonable, in fact usually adviseable, to know what you are plunking money down for before putting it down. since tickets are on sale and early is how to get the best ones than it is a good time to say if there is something more. not necessary mind you but given the vibe about the gig....

anyway please let forum folks new or old have a safe place to put their reasonable comments without threat


Thank you Jane. This is meant to be a forum after all, i.e. "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." I don't think J&R have to justify anything, but if long-time fans are voting with their feet maybe it would be a good idea. Still, it's their business and if they fill the seats at these prices they can claim their business strategy is working.

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Jane H. wrote:

for goodness sakes Rocket, those are darn near fighting words where I come from.
you can ignore the thread you know.
i know your intentions are good but this is one of those things IMHO where folks are giving their opinion and feedback which is not necessarily favorable but is for the most part. complaining about the comments or that folks don't see eye to eye with you gives some a feeling that the replies make their own testimony seem more negative than it is.
its completely reasonable, in fact usually adviseable, to know what you are plunking money down for before putting it down. since tickets are on sale and early is how to get the best ones than it is a good time to say if there is something more. not necessary mind you but given the vibe about the gig....

anyway please let forum folks new or old have a safe place to put their reasonable comments without threat


Thank you Jane. This is meant to be a forum after all, i.e. "a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged." I don't think J&R have to justify anything, but if long-time fans are voting with their feet maybe it would be a good idea. Still, it's their business and if they fill the seats at these prices they can claim their business strategy is working.

Agreed. Customer satisfaction is essential to any business in terms of maintaining revenue and developing successful products. The only way any business can know how well it is doing in the customers‘ eyes is through consumer feedback. The forum provides the opportunity for fans to provide such feedback – good and bad. Attacking/criticising people if they say something negative or something you personally don’t like, whether it be about pricing, sound quality or anything else, can put people off wanting to contribute, which in turn denies Joe's management access to valuable information on fans‘ views on how they are performing.

It is true that J&R don’t have to justify anything, but failing to communicate effectively with customers is known as ‘the silent killer of businesses’.

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With regard to the pricing of future dates (after Hammersmith), we are all obviously guessing, though as I said I fear Joe's increasing success and profile will ensure that a swift decrease is unlikely.  For those who are feeling excluded by the current ticket prices, there are numerous examples of artists whose profiles (and consequently ticket prices) have increased and then fallen back once they are no longer the next 'big' thing...  I sincerely hope that this doesn't happen for Joe, but I recently saw Robert Cray play the best show I have seen from him in years in a small venue, local to me, for much less than half the quoted £ 117 !   Maybe some of us will have to wait a while to see him again while he has his 'Gaga period'.

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In no way am I knocking Joe, nor expecting an explanation for the increase. I have simply reached the ceiling of what I am able to pay. I know the show will be brilliant, that Joe will give his all and probably still have something left to sign a few things for fans after. He doesn't charge for M&G's, and is more than generous with his time. But I simply can't afford a ticket.

Maybe i'll put £20 a month away and if there are any seats available closer to the date i'll have a think. Maybe we should have a 'lay away' for them ;-)

Finally, kudos to Joe. This is his site and he could easily have ended this topic but hasn't. It says a lot about him and I would hate to think anyone thought less of him because of a ticket price. There are many on here who have been Joe fans way longer than me ( I just joined coat tails at the time of Live From Nowhere...) and I think we all know he cares about his fans and always will. I wouldn't want anyone to think I thought any differently.

On a lighter note, the new song is fantastic. Good luck with the tour Joe and to all those that go, have a fantastic time.

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I see that the JB store has added a cheese board that fans can buy. Maybe it's time to add some WHINE glasses also smile
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Now the dust is settling, what have we learned from this topic?
Well, some people are going to Hammersmith, some are not, others can't or won't pay the ticket price, others will.
Joe has been mentioned alongside Paul McCartney, Rolling Stones and even Lady Gaga.
The concerts in London are still months away and full details are probably yet to be finalised.
Horns, organs, choir and orchestra may or may not feature in the show.
One thing that we all agree on is that Joe is a top guitarist and deserves the acclaim and success which he is now getting.
An interesting topic with some fine contributions from the forum members.

Lester

136 Reply by bobkatmsu (edited by bobkatmsu 2014-07-15 18:52:19)

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For those that truly cannot afford to see Joe, I'm sorry for your situation.  Keep pushing forward and there is always next year.  For those that would rather see 3-4 other shows rather than see Joe, or those that will not pay that much based on principle, not a problem.  You had options and chose the one that best fit you.  As for me, I've got 3rd row seats for a show in December and I can't wait.  Congratulations Joe one inspiring such passionate fans.

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It's quite incredible how many negative comments are being voiced elsewhere too

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138 Reply by Bluemac (edited by Bluemac 2014-07-24 05:13:44)

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It's quite incredible how many negative comments are being voiced elsewhere too

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Ouch. This is a real, real shame. I imagine that the Hammersmith gigs were meant to be a triumphant return to London after more than a year away and that playing the new set for the first time at these gigs was intended as a way of repaying the UK fans for all their loyalty and support over the years.

Unfortunately, many fans seem to have taken the view that their loyalty is being repaid in the wrong way - with over-expensive tickets many of them can't afford or won't buy on principle.

I don't know if this is a miscalculation on the part of Joe's management or all part of a longer term strategy, but I hope for everybody's sake, and especially Joe's, that this doesn't leave a lasting negative impression and that the gigs will be a great success.

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I bought the tickets on ticketmaster with new cd option. The cd will be the normal or deluxe edition?
Thanks

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I bought the tickets on ticketmaster with new cd option. The cd will be the normal or deluxe edition?
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Stefan,

I've just been on the Ticketmaster website and if you paid £14.99 you should get the deluxe edition as it says:

"This deluxe album also includes a Hardcover Digibook CD packaging with 64 page booklet with extended booklet with an interview with Kevin Shirley about the recording and exclusive images and story of the 2014 festival run.Track listings

1.Hey Baby (New Rising Sun)
2.Oh Beautiful!
3.Love Ain't A Love Song
4.Living On The Moon
5.Heartache Follows Wherever I Go
6.Never Give All Your Heart
7.I Gave Up Everything For You, 'Cept The Blues
8.Different Shades Of Blue
9.Get Back My Tomorrow
10.Trouble Town
11.So, What Would I Do

Released 22nd September 2014."

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Stefan,

I've just been on the Ticketmaster website and if you paid £14.99 you should get the deluxe edition as it says:

"This deluxe album also includes a Hardcover Digibook CD packaging with 64 page booklet with extended booklet with an interview with Kevin Shirley about the recording and exclusive images and story of the 2014 festival run.Track listings

1.Hey Baby (New Rising Sun)
2.Oh Beautiful!
3.Love Ain't A Love Song
4.Living On The Moon
5.Heartache Follows Wherever I Go
6.Never Give All Your Heart
7.I Gave Up Everything For You, 'Cept The Blues
8.Different Shades Of Blue
9.Get Back My Tomorrow
10.Trouble Town
11.So, What Would I Do

Released 22nd September 2014."

Phil

Sure, I paid 14,99£, but I did not remember where I had read of deluxe edition!
Thanks.
I hope that the tickets arrive soon!

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Just been given tickets to the Friday Hammersmith show as a birthday present. I foolishly wasn't a fan of his for a while during his early career and missed the opportunity to see him in some really tiny venues. He finally 'clicked' with me in Spring 2013 when Royal Albert Hall was broadcast on Sky Arts. Now I'm MASSIVELY into Joe and I'm kicking myself that I was so quick to dismiss him - it's been a lesson learnt the hard way! 
Anyway, I REALLY can't wait for this gig and I am so excited about it!
EDIT: I have been reading through a lot of these comments about the high ticket prices and I agree that the price hike does seem excessive. I can only guess that the 'overheads' that are being spoken about for these 'totally different' shows may be the shows being filmed for Joe's next live DVD/Blu-ray? Plus I can imagine some special guests and additional musicians being involved. Maybe not just a three piece horns but a whole horn section like Jools Holland?

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I have been a bonamassa fan from the very early days ie at the robin 2 8 / 9 years ago or more but im sorry I feel im being ripped off the massive price rise is to much and lets not kid ourselves it is massive I understand things change and the cost of putting on a show has risen but I think its to much . but what really gets me is its bloody London again the ticket prices are bad enough but when you have to get there travel, hotel time off work its soon becomes £300 plus which im afraid is to much . there is more places to play in the uk than London and a lot of those fans that supported you then when you first started in the uk and you did play places like the robin 2 , mr kryps  , and other places must be as disapointed as I am