Fossil fuels, energy, the price of gas (Page 1 of 3)

Curby, I have done a search on google and on CNN and the only references I can find to $8 gas are historical ones, mostly from 08, and lots of speculation from earlier this year. If you post a title as 'emotive' as "8 Dollars a Freaking Gallon!!!!" you need to substantiate it with facts and a link. If you have one, please post it, or I will amend the title.

RickB wrote:

Don't forget our fearless leader's promise to make gasoline and electricity prices rise to those of Europe to wean us off oil and towards other sources. Seems that is one he's keeping.
Rick

All I'll say before putting my hard hat on is that you know perfectly well (or should do) that heads of governments have precisely zilch to do with the price you pay at the pump. Whoever is in the White House, has no direct influence over the daily fluctuations in price. Over here, where we have national rather than state or regional tax on gas, governments who may wish to increase the tax have to go through the normal legislative process. No government can say, 'listen up, we're increasing the tax by x% overnight'. Of course, they can increase the tax after due process, but the daily fluctuations at the pump are down to oil companies, speculators, and that holy 'market, not to governments or heads of state.

Warning

This topic is a potential political minefield. Certainly, a discussion about fossil fuels, energy policy and the like, should be possible without trying to score cheap political points. Please bear this in mind and restrain yourselves. The moment this topic shows signs of going south, it will have to be locked. Unfortunately.

Curby, I have done a search on google and on CNN and the only references I can find to $8 gas are historical ones, mostly from 08, and lots of speculation from earlier this year. If you post a title as 'emotive' as "8 Dollars a Freaking Gallon!!!!" you need to substantiate it with facts and a link. If you have one, please post it, or I will amend the title.

RickB wrote:

Don't forget our fearless leader's promise to make gasoline and electricity prices rise to those of Europe to wean us off oil and towards other sources. Seems that is one he's keeping.
Rick

All I'll say before putting my hard hat on is that you know perfectly well (or should do) that heads of governments have precisely zilch to do with the price you pay at the pump. Whoever is in the White House, has no direct influence over the daily fluctuations in price. Over here, where we have national rather than state or regional tax on gas, governments who may wish to increase the tax have to go through the normal legislative process. No government can say, 'listen up, we're increasing the tax by x% overnight'. Of course, they can increase the tax after due process, but the daily fluctuations at the pump are down to oil companies, speculators, and that holy 'market, not to governments or heads of state.

Warning

This topic is a potential political minefield. Certainly, a discussion about fossil fuels, energy policy and the like, should be possible without trying to score cheap political points. Please bear this in mind and restrain yourselves. The moment this topic shows signs of going south, it will have to be locked. Unfortunately.

Amsterhammer wrote:

Curby, I have done a search on google and on CNN and the only references I can find to $8 gas are historical ones, mostly from 08, and lots of speculation from earlier this year. If you post a title as 'emotive' as "8 Dollars a Freaking Gallon!!!!" you need to substantiate it with facts and a link. If you have one, please post it, or I will amend the title.

RickB wrote:

Don't forget our fearless leader's promise to make gasoline and electricity prices rise to those of Europe to wean us off oil and towards other sources. Seems that is one he's keeping.
Rick

All I'll say before putting my hard hat on is that you know perfectly well (or should do) that heads of governments have precisely zilch to do with the price you pay at the pump. Whoever is in the White House, has no direct influence over the daily fluctuations in price. Over here, where we have national rather than state or regional tax on gas, governments who may wish to increase the tax have to go through the normal legislative process. No government can say, 'listen up, we're increasing the tax by x% overnight'. Of course, they can increase the tax after due process, but the daily fluctuations at the pump are down to oil companies, speculators, and that holy 'market, not to governments or heads of state.

Warning

This topic is a potential political minefield. Certainly, a discussion about fossil fuels, energy policy and the like, should be possible without trying to score cheap political points. Please bear this in mind and restrain yourselves. The moment this topic shows signs of going south, it will have to be locked. Unfortunately.

Without expanding, I'll point out our national administration's policies towards continental coal and other fossil fuel extraction has had a direct effect on fuel prices here. Agreed this is a touchy subject. I'll say no more. We happen to enjoy the highest gasoline prices in the nation here in San Diego. About $.50/gal. on average above the reported national figures for no apparent reason than they can get away with it. There are strong feelings on all sides. It is best to leave well enough alone.