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Re: Adele

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So she got a break.  So she's popular.  So she's got a money machine behind her.  Life's not necessarily fair; the biz is most definitely NOT fair.  She writes about a universal theme.  Dumping or being dumped is a mother lode for songs of every genre.  Let her enjoy her success.  Wife & daughter like her.  They play (musical instruments), so it's not mindless.

Duncan, it's rare that we agree on defining the blues and often I tease about you being a cheapskate, but you are in the street, conducting research and writing about it for publication.  Expert yet?  wink  but soon come.   tongue  lol  I understand (and agree with) your annoyance with the unceasing nonsense & overkill by Brack, just take a deep breath.  He's in the right thread.




George, you've asked Brack in email & online to change some stuff.  He finally did so.  You fume and Brack does NOT care other than to rile you up.  I assume (perhaps wrongly) that he enjoys it.  Let it be.

Brack, you say here that you will never respond to Greenose or Amsterhammer and when it gets personal you turn it over to the mods.  Yet you have interjected your opinion in the past in/on other's personal matters.  Even on this thread, some of your responses could seem defiant, especially to some who are working so hard to try and make it.  It's touchy.  So while I would defend your right to be here, I would like to see/read some info about you. 

You obviously want or need to share, so share.  Maybe something  that's not a link.   wink   If you've ever posted an Introduction, I missed it.  I apologize if I did.  Being partly disabled, occasionally  I find myself bored to tears and spend far too much time surfing pure rubbish. 

I'm looking at your avatar.  Are you or were you a drummer?  Do you read?  Do you play?  Did you get run down playing soccer/futbol?  Got a family?  Just a thought.  We are all only human at best.

Yeah Adele is doing well.  More power to her.

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Thanks for your words Big Jeff. I will mull on them.

I have a complex personality - Dr Jekall & Mr Hyde, if you will!
As to the questions.. yes x 4. Not sure about the Soccer/football one, but i played to a good standard at school, but not good enough to be Pro.

Enough about me,

Adele will be state side in a couple of weeks time
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Re: Adele

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So she got a break.  So she's popular.  So she's got a money machine behind her.  Life's not necessarily fair; the biz is most definitely NOT fair.  She writes about a universal theme.  Dumping or being dumped is a mother lode for songs of every genre.  Let her enjoy her success.  Wife & daughter like her.  They play (musical instruments), so it's not mindless.

Duncan, it's rare that we agree on defining the blues and often I tease about you being a cheapskate, but you are in the street, conducting research and writing about it for publication.  Expert yet?  wink  but soon come.   tongue  lol  I understand (and agree with) your annoyance with the unceasing nonsense & overkill by Brack, just take a deep breath.  He's in the right thread.




George, you've asked Brack in email & online to change some stuff.  He finally did so.  You fume and Brack does NOT care other than to rile you up.  I assume (perhaps wrongly) that he enjoys it.  Let it be.

Brack, you say here that you will never respond to Greenose or Amsterhammer and when it gets personal you turn it over to the mods.  Yet you have interjected your opinion in the past in/on other's personal matters.  Even on this thread, some of your responses could seem defiant, especially to some who are working so hard to try and make it.  It's touchy.  So while I would defend your right to be here, I would like to see/read some info about you. 

You obviously want or need to share, so share.  Maybe something  that's not a link.   wink   If you've ever posted an Introduction, I missed it.  I apologize if I did.  Being partly disabled, occasionally  I find myself bored to tears and spend far too much time surfing pure rubbish. 

I'm looking at your avatar.  Are you or were you a drummer?  Do you read?  Do you play?  Did you get run down playing soccer/futbol?  Got a family?  Just a thought.  We are all only human at best.

Yeah Adele is doing well.  More power to her.

MuchPeaceKeeping
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Thanks for your words Big Jeff. I will mull on them.

I have a complex personality - Dr Jekall & Mr Hyde, if you will!
As to the questions.. yes x 4. Not sure about the Soccer/football one, but i played to a good standard at school, but not good enough to be Pro.

Enough about me,

Adele will be state side in a couple of weeks time
Here's a interview by USA Today, before 21 was released... 5 questions! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fv … Y&NR=1

Hey Brack,

I know I am taking over your thread, but I just want to ask you a favor here?

I am a big Simon Kirke fan also and saw where you posted about him.  Can you tell me on the Simon Kirke thread what made Simon special too you?  What kind of things do you like in his playing that you have taken into yours?

I know you like Adele, so I knew you would see my request for Simon, thanks.

Now back to Adele.

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Re: Adele

While recovering at home from recent  throat surgery,

Congrats to our Adele, at the American Music Awards 2011

Picking up 3 awards

Favourite Female Artist in Pop/Rock – Adele

Favourite Album in Pop/Rock – Adele – ‘21’

Favourite Artist in Adult Contemporary - Adele

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Re: Adele

Adele - released her, Live at, The Royal Albert Hall  DVD/ Blu Ray TODAY!
Here's the trailer... brings back a few 2009 memories...
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mbcl wrote:

Of course but them I am just bitter and twisted and I just don't get were the success comes from. That said, I wish her well and she should take all she can while she can.

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Ha ha! Adele playing & selling out the Royal Albert Hall tomorrow will no doubt  make you spit a few more nails!  lol

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It's a joke is what it is, sorry bracket I know you like her, but it's the whole 'real music' killing bullshit that manipulates her into  a position of selling 10 million copies that makes me spit nails. Her first album was atrocious, her second, well the production team were first class, enough said.
This is the whole real reason why real bands rarely get anywhere. Poeple will happily pay £40,£50,£60 to see this shite, while their local pub has more talent for £5 and is left struggling for punters. Really does get my goat.

The success comes from her awesome singing voice. I'm not a fan of most modern music like many others on this discussion but I think Adele is brilliant. That woman's got some soul, and stands head and shoulders above all the other mass-market music around today. There's no AutoTune on her records!

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Re: Adele

Thanks to Jane & James for their comments.

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Re: Adele

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There's no AutoTune on her records!

This simply is not true, every studio recording will require a degree of correction using autotune (or of course a similar product), even the great tenors. That is the engineers job and part of the mixing process. That is no dig at Adele, it is just a matter if fact. Of course some artists rely heavily on this process and some do not.

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A shift away from this topic a sec ...To answer Martin regarding autotune - The Foo Fighters album- Wasting Light
Dave G went back to recording the album on old tape machines - no autotune, nothing digital on that one !  Don't take my word.... ask around

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Re: Adele

mbcl wrote:
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There's no AutoTune on her records!

This simply is not true, every studio recording will require a degree of correction using autotune (or of course a similar product), even the great tenors. That is the engineers job and part of the mixing process. That is no dig at Adele, it is just a matter if fact. Of course some artists rely heavily on this process and some do not.

Indeed true, I was just making a point referring to the many artists nowadays that rely heavily on it (and you can hear it in a lot of cases...). Although we all seemed to get on just fine without Autotune before it was released in 1997...

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Brack tape or digital, there is still an amount of correction in the mixing process, autotune is probably a bad anolagy as it has had so much bad press being used for instant correction live performances.
Even for great vocalists, there will be a degree adjustment. A good analogy is a fine lead crsytall decanter, looks flawless and beautiful. Look very closley at the surface is flawed.
Back to Adele, i dont think I ever said she uses autotune. I just could not understand the all round difference between her first and second CDs, they are like chalk and cheese. I wish her well and good luck to her. Just nit my bag, if we all liked the same thing, life would be vary different and sometimes I lose sight of that. You would not what yo know what I think of the poo fighters wink, millions of others love them.



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A shift away from this topic a sec ...To answer Martin regarding autotune - The Foo Fighters album- Wasting Light
Dave G went back to recording the album on old tape machines - no autotune, nothing digital on that one !  Don't take my word.... ask around

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just seeing Adele listed a few times in the famed guitarists thread on appreciating other artists CD's jogged my memory on the subject and thought I would add something.

My daughter gets bombarded from school friends with pressure to follow the latest boy/girl band/simon cowell rip-off no talent thing... that I think  a few on here have] wrongly assumed that Adele was in that same category. But it is actually Adele that she stands firm on citing that the girl writes her own songs and can sing live, she (my daughter) has worked hard on learning one of her songs on the keyboard and she has a music book from the album "18" to go into her Christmas stocking this year.

As I may have said on here before Adele is not my taste but that does not exclude me for appreciating talent when I see/hear it, - and if that talent goes some way to inspiring youngsters to involve themselves in playing an instrument then they have to be doing a good thing surely?

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Re: Adele

Never legendary.

Beth Hart destroys her vocally and soulfully.

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Re: Adele

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Never legendary.

Beth Hart destroys her vocally and soulfully.


Legendary ? No ... not yet!

The use of the word, "destroys" is harsh imo, and evokes a level of violence in my view , besides, Miss Adele is a baby, in terms of   vocal experience.
Miss Adele is currently recovering from her throat operation - all is well - so i hear. I wish her a speedy recovery.

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HELLO!

Sorry I haven’t written for a while. Thank you for all your positive thoughts and get well wishes. I’m doing really well, on the mend, super happy, relaxed and very positive with it all. The operation was a success and I’m just chilling out now until I get the all clear from my doctors. Thank you to everyone who voted for the awards I’ve won recently as well. Hugely appreciated. I best get back to practicing my mime show now. Take care, miss you all –
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Never legendary.

Beth Hart destroys her vocally and soulfully.

Soulfully yes - vocally Adele has way more gears in her engine.  Singing within her comfort range, Beth is an excellent singer, but those high notes expose every cigarette that's passed through her lungs.  Hurts my ears.

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Brack wrote:
DaveWammbarro wrote:

Never legendary.

Beth Hart destroys her vocally and soulfully.


Legendary ? No ... not yet!

The use of the word, "destroys" is harsh imo, and evokes a level of violence in my view , besides, Miss Adele is a baby, in terms of   vocal experience.
Miss Adele is currently recovering from her throat operation - all is well - so i hear. I wish her a speedy recovery.

This from her website
14 November 11

HELLO!

Sorry I haven’t written for a while. Thank you for all your positive thoughts and get well wishes. I’m doing really well, on the mend, super happy, relaxed and very positive with it all. The operation was a success and I’m just chilling out now until I get the all clear from my doctors. Thank you to everyone who voted for the awards I’ve won recently as well. Hugely appreciated. I best get back to practicing my mime show now. Take care, miss you all –
Always adele xx

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DaveWammbarro wrote:

Never legendary.

Beth Hart destroys her vocally and soulfully.

Soulfully yes - vocally Adele has way more gears in her engine.  Singing within her comfort range, Beth is an excellent singer, but those high notes expose every cigarette that's passed through her lungs.  Hurts my ears.

Sorry, Brack...Sir..I meant...I would quite easily never miss hearing Adele's voice...but Beth's...I sure would...on any song.

Curby...I like the flaws (and look what's happened...Adele's voice has popped already - could be the booze and fags or stress, but it's there)...perhaps 'vocally' I meant in the same sense...and not 'technically'.  Either way...it's like listening to a pleasant session musician who I can't argue with...to say...Dickie Betts playing a '59 Les Paul. It's just there..and always will be.

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As this young lady has reportedly topped the UK album & single charts in 2011, she's also gone and done it in the US.
Here's an interesting article from the UK's Guardian Press
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicbl … ajor-label

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I watched the RAH concert, fair play to her she gave a great performance. Not my bag, but she did perform very well indeed.

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I too, in the UK for the holidays saw the RAH concert.

The singing was sublime, and she has a distinctive voice, almost instantly recognisable which is always a good thing.

To her massive credit (with me anyway) she interacts with the audience freely and easily provides anecdotes, and details of her music and where and why it came about.

Long may she do so and continue with a successful. I won't say it isn't my thing, because as a great singer, she is. We have her CD's 19 & 21 and soon they will be on my Brennan which no doubt will pluck them out occasionally for me!

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