Which pickups did joe have in new day yesterday live? (Page 3 of 6)

From a previous Joe interview ....
"The gray one has a custom profile neck that is a softer V and a little wider, the black one is stock"

A ceriatone would be cheaper than a lonestar for me. It's not so important for me to replicate the tone precisely, it's more a reference of where I would like to be. I'm sure I could settle for less if I found something that came along. Most important is that I can get a somewhat fat saturated with a fair amount of drive yet still having the single coil sound.

I'll make sure to check out some of the stuff you've mentioned and other stuff. If I get a summer job I can rack in at least 1/3 of the cost, save for a while and maybe have mis familia pitch in a bit. It's all possible...

But maybe the solution is in something simpler. It's possible there is a pedal coupled with a 4x12 that could satisfy my ears. I like my town now, I would just like to add some more drive with a Slightly more distorted sound, just slightly, and fatten up the sound without changing the actual tone. I plan to go to my store again today and try out every single drive/dist/boost pedal they have.

P.S. Med school is 3-4 years away so no worry. I've not decided yet though

To faithfully recreate Joe's tone Ben is right, 2 amps are pretty much required.  Since you have the Spider Valve already, I would probably run that with a fair amount of gain, some reverb, maybe a light chorus, and a medium delay.  Then, use an amp that perhaps has more bottom (since you said that you are lacking "fatness") to ABY with the Spider Valve.  Marshall's are notorious for low end and fatness so I'd definately go down that route first.  Besides on ANDY I'm pretty sure it was mostly Marshall at that point.  BTW what kind of Les Paul are you thinking about selling?

Some really great advice given in this thread.

Here is my 2 cents.

I think working on duplicating Joe's playing techniques verse obtain Joe's equipment is a better route then spending money you don't have.

Stick with your Strat and add an amp and pedals that inspire you.

Few reasons I say this. Joe can sound very much like Eric Johnson at times but is equipment is very different. But he also sounds like Joe which is getting more distinct on every album. I can name that guitarist in two notes.

I have been fortunate recently to be able to purchase some really nice equipment. And you know what I sound just like me. $300 or $3000 guitar I still #$%^.

I think once you develop your technique and voice it will always be there.

And you can use your influences such as Joe. Joe himself has done this with his influences proficiently and created his own unique style.

P.S. Check Fender or Youtube for videos of Eric Johnson using a G-Dec amp. A modeling amp and it sounds similar to his rig but the biggest thing is that it sounds like Eric Johnson. His G-Dec settings have been posted. I have used them and sound nothing like the videos.

In the end have fun! I hope this helps.

TIRED OF THIS KIND OF ADVICE. I can see how this is considered good advice, but it's not (no offense at all) because I'm trying to change my RIG.

Here is the deal. That's not the "tone" I'm trying to reproduce. No matter your skill level, a thin sounding setup is a thin sounding setup. You can be a horrible guitar player through an amazing rig, and your rig will sound amazing even though the playing is horrible. I lack a good sounding rig. I'm not trying to sound like Joe, I want the tone that his RIG produces, not that he himself produces. It's like, would you expect Joe to settle for a 5w mini hand-held battery amp, even if he sounds like himself through it? No.

No matter how well I play, my rig sounds thin. Bottom line. I can't make it sound fat because it sounds thin ~~

Obviously Joe did not start with a jubilee, but I am far from a beginner guitar player

Yeah 'tis what I'm saying.

I never said I want to sound like Joe, I want to have the tone of Joes rig. A humbucker sustains longer than a single coil. It's not because of technique of the player. Joes rig sounds fatter than mine. Completely unrelated to technique, it's the gear.

People like to merge the meaning of the word tone and style/playing. There is no such thing as "tone" in fingers. It's the wrong word to use. When I say tone I mean the default sound that a rig creates based on what the rig consists of. If I say playing style then I'm talking about how each individual makes the rig sound. Basically, upgrading my rig will get me a fatter sound that only upgrading my rig can. You can't make a clean amp sound distorted the way a distortion pedal does with playing style. You can't make a 10w ss amp sound as loud as a 100w tube amp with "technique and/or playing style"

I'm already planning to obtain a 4x12 for the summer. That is definatley a big plus, I think that if I could find a very certain pedal coupled with a 4x12 that could satisfy my needs.

I read somewhere that some old marshall guvnor pedals have the same circuiting as the silver jubilees... (what do you know about it?) BTW, does anyone know which speakers were in his Marshall Cabinets during ANDY live? My experience with speakers are very limited. My amp right now has a V30 which sounds awesome at low volumes but as soon as I turn it up it's bright, thin etc. But that is probably also because it's a 1x12 open back amp. (Maybe I'll just have to ask Joe in a month after his concert >.>)

I read somewhere that some old marshall guvnor pedals have the same circuiting as the silver jubilees...

I was told that once and checked out the schematic for the guvnor. ( not the new ones
the ones made in late 80,s) and lo and behold its a pedal made with the same clipping diodes
as the jubilee pre-amp circuit .  I checked out a demo on youtube of the pedal and it sounded
ok http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sPkN6uRa0
I would expect this pedal to sound best with a Marshall with el34s primarily jcm800 2203 ,2204
but due to the position of the pedal ie, in front of the amp as opposed to inside the amp
like the jubilee I cannot confirm it will give the sound you are after. the jubilee was voiced differently
to accomodate the clipping diodes which are bright sounding. these pedals were made post 88
as marshall amps at that time all featured diodes in their pre-amps (jcm 2210,2205) which are different
beasts to the previous 2203,2204, so this pedal was to emulate the marshall sound at this time,
whether they succeeded is open to opinion as I have not tried one of these pedals

"Everybody's entitled to my opinion.