Topic: Jubilee-ish Overdrive Pedal (crazy idea)

Hey All,

Context:  i'm running a 50 watt plexi clone into a 2x12 with greenbacks.   The guitars are a Les Paul Standard, 54 Reissue Strat and MiA Tele.   Available pedals: Cmatmods Brownie, Ts808 and Barber Direct Drive.

Here's what i'm looking to do:  There are parts of Joe's tone that are thrilling... in a similar way to Eric Johnson's just with more guts.   I know that his sound is almost entirely fingers and amp overdrive.   Leveling the playing field a little, let's remove fingers from the equation smile.  I'm looking to create a tone by stacking pedals, much like how Joe stacks amps.   Joe uses the Jubilee on all the time, and adds the Plexi, Two Rock and Van Weelden (or other) to give the base tone different characters. 

If you were to do that with pedals into a clean british-style amp, what would you use as your base tone?

I'm using the 808 as a signal boost for the tele and strat, and the DD as my round, Dumble-esgue pedal.   I'm riding those gains pretty low (below 10:00) and stacking them onto the brownie (also with lower output jfets and the gain around 10:00).   The Brownie has the low end thump i'm looking for, but seems a bit grainy on the top end... even with the other pedals layered.  It's not a sparkle so much.   Thoughts?

2 (edited by jgalvan8804 2008-12-11 06:24:25)

Re: Jubilee-ish Overdrive Pedal (crazy idea)

Hey welcome to the Forum.  This is by far the best place to talk about this kind of stuff that I have found.

To the pedal idea.  I have experimented with all kinds of different ways to stack pedals and layer sounds and pair amps and such.  I have had NO luck with stacking pedals. To some degree if you put a light overdrive almost boost like pedal in front or after a overdrive pedal you can get different desirable effects. 

The Keeley Java boost does this well I hear. There are lots others... Ive used a Fulltone fulldrive as a light pedal then boosted it with a heavier pedal.  But you have to be careful because you will quickly loose your tone and muddy up your sound. Its a trial and error type thing. 

I suggest you try what I use.  I have a Vox AC30 and a Twin both on clean all the time. The Vox is just at the breaking point. 

I run a les paul into a wah then into a Boss line selector.  Channel A is a Barber Burn unit. This gives me a nice light overdrive (heavy if needed) for the light blues runs.  Then Channel B is a Ocean EFX Texas Deuce. I use that for leads. It is thick and sounds glorious. It is a great lead tone.

Then I run right into a delay and into the amps. I dont know why people have so much trouble running a delay in front of an amp.  I have never had a problem with it.

Anyway the pedals is a taste thing.  Find the ones you like and run with them. I've tried many.  Ocean EFX is making top of the line stuff.  I'd look at their site.  Barber is great also. 
Good Luck.

Re: Jubilee-ish Overdrive Pedal (crazy idea)

This is sort of what I'm trying to do but with stacking my overdrive channel on the Fuchs with a pedal of some type to push it into Marshall, JB, EJ territory.  I hoping the OceanEFX Pearl Drive will do the trick.

Re: Jubilee-ish Overdrive Pedal (crazy idea)

Hello Mike and welcome to the forum first... it's a fun place to hang out and learn.  I think what you have to work with now is fine, and that you should be able to get alot of tone from that... just like it is.
  But, here's the thing: You can't just do it with pedals. It really takes two amplifiers to get that sound. Even if it were two small amps you can do it... By the way, I really like the idea of a pedal which simulates the Marshall Silver Jubilee amp. That would really be cool.  I think the maxed out, multilayered tone that you want is really coming from two amps... pedals aside.
  Many of todays top players use this technique pairing multiple amplifiers... theres a guy named Stratovari here who you might also ask about some advice on this topic...  For myself, I don't need all of that to begin with. I feel like I'm off to a good start and there is so much to learn- gear aside. It begins with one good amp and one good guitar.

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