Topic: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

I am looking to replace my DSL100 with a good high gain amp head. The Jubilee being the first choice but just too expensive, I want to look elsewhere. I love Marshall, but anybody who knows obscure/less well known amplifier companies, please chime in! I love an amp with sufficient mids (for example, a Les Paul into an amp that almost "comes out at you" when performing heavy vibrato, if that makes sense). Joe has very similar tone taste to myself so this is the best place to ask. Don't suggest the Jubilee. That is just unproductive. lol.

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

check out the Budda Superdrive series.  Joe used to use these.

Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

Check out Rivera amps.

Paul Rivera made the Twin Reverb II for fender before he made his own company. His amps have a Marshall channel (dirty blues, and heavy gain) and a Fender channel (clean, w/ballsy clean boost). The fender channel has push pull post for the mids and treble. And you can send it in to have a push/pull on the bass knob of the marshal channel.

I've had the 100watt knucklehead and the 55 watt combo amp for 8 years now.


Try em out?

You'd probably want the Fandango
http://www.rivera.com/

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

I have a Budda Superdrive 45. I'd definitely recommend it for a higher gain blues sound. Sounds awesome with a Les Paul- super thick and creamy. It can do it all from vintage plexi type tones to some higher gain stuff- think Hendrix to Joe B.

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

Bogner Alchemist?

Marshall Vintage Modern?

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

What dont you like on your DSL? Its easier then to find a replacement.
I recently tried a Engl Richie Blackmore Top and it sounds just amazing.
Even Joe suggested it as alternative to the Jubilee head as it does more or less the same.
They are pretty cheap used (around 700 euro) and very well built.

Good luck
Alex

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

Egnater just came out with a great sounding 20 watt Rebel.

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Done a google search? You know it makes sense wink

Petabeata89 wrote:

I am looking to replace my DSL100 with a good high gain amp head. The Jubilee being the first choice but just too expensive, I want to look elsewhere. I love Marshall, but anybody who knows obscure/less well known amplifier companies, please chime in! I love an amp with sufficient mids (for example, a Les Paul into an amp that almost "comes out at you" when performing heavy vibrato, if that makes sense). Joe has very similar tone taste to myself so this is the best place to ask. Don't suggest the Jubilee. That is just unproductive. lol.

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

I already have a JTM45. I love it but sometimes I just want more screaming sustain. The DSL isn't sensitive worth crap and sounds like an emulated tube amp, not the real thing, if that makes sense. It just has no feeling to it whatsoever-- dead. I tried a Laney today and that was more what I was looking for but golly-- a LANEY?!? Tell me what you all think! And thanks for everything so far.

P.S.-- I would like an amp with spring reverb and an effects loop.

Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

Not sure what you don't like about the DSL 100
but the Silver Jubilee is prob not a good replacement anyway

But Joe is now also using a Category 5
and I was at a clinic he just held on Sunset in Hollywood
He put each amp by itself to show the diff in tones

Liked the Cat 5 better than the Jubille, it was warmer
but so is my DSL 100

The Two Rock was also outstanding
but these are not budget amps

while not considered Blues Amps, I get great tones
and high gain out of Mesa Boogies
the F-50 has gain out the ying yang,
if you want more channels/power the Roadster rocks
endless sustain

Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

Like I said, the DSL feels dead. The Laney was screaming with life. The DSL never does that. I think I may invest in a Laney and try to tweak in a bluesy tone.

Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

There's a Ritchie Blackmore Sig amp USED in the GC in Little Rock, Arkansas. It's there right now. Haven't seen inside it, but it looks brand freakin' new. Could be quite a score!

    FUCHS would do what you're wanting.

    But my first thoughts? BUDDA, Baby! LOL

    SD18, SD30, SD45, or SD80. They are all very loud, for their wattage ratings. Just pick a wattage that fits you. The 80 will eat up the stage, no joke.

    Were you diming the DSL100? Or, were you running it below "Noon" on the Vloume levels? If so, buy a smaller wattage. That may be why you don't get the feel you're looking for. Pre-amp Gain is just not the way to go. If you're cooking the power tubes, you'll get better tones from a tube amp. You probably already know this, and I don't want to sound like an @$$. But, I thought I'd mention it, just in case.

    Seriously though, check out the BUDDAS. They are WAAAYYY under-priced, used. I don't think that will always be the case.

    Here's a cool video demo. Check the 3rd. one down:

   http://www.budda.com/videoclips.html

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

the budda looks real good, brother, thanks for sharing! And I took two tubes out of the DSL a few months ago to make it roughly 50 watts and i crank the poop out of it all the time. I think it's just not a good model from Marshall. And I will check out the Ritchie Blackmore and FUCHS stuff you were speaking (typing) of. Thanks, everybody!!!!

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Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

I love my 45. It can do it all.

Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

Keep in mind that Joe B.  Eric Johnson and the like all hit their front end hard with a TS 808 or some overdrive...even the hi gain Marshalls...to give it that extra kick.  I even kick my Fuchs lead channel with an Xotic AC Boost or an Accusound Class A Clean Boost for extra Hi Gain things.

Lots of gain off the amp isn't necessarily the end all...a moderate gain amp with a good pedal might do the trick with better articulation and definition.

Re: Good High Gain Blues Amp- HELP!!!! PLEASE! I NEED ADVIIICCCEEEE!!!

I would highly recommend the Budda amps too.  IMO, they are a bargain on the used market.

Jason

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I joined this site just so I could post this reply. :-)

I've been playing for about 30 years. In that time I've played some very very nice amps (and some crap ones too but that's a different thread). I play loud electric blues-based rock. Needless to say then, I've played tube amps almost exclusively. I also have almost always played humbuckers. I love the sound that Jimi and SRV and Trower get but when I play single coils it almost never feels right. The best amp I had ever played through, the one that put out tone that was closest to what was in my head was a 2x12 combo Silver Jubilee. At that time ('89 or '90) I was playing in a metal band and like a fool I traded the combo in for a JCM 800 half-stack.

In the 15 or so years since then I've never found another amp that made me want to play the damn callouses off my fingers. I've played a pile of Marshall and Fender amps with a few Vox and Orange and Hiwatt thrown in. I've also demoed the hell out of a few 'boutique' amps including Dr. Z and Budda. They all had something nice about them but none of them inspired me to plunk down a fistful of money (or in the case of the boutique amps a couple of fistfuls). Well my search has ended. A few weeks ago I walked into a small shop here in central Arizona and played through a Quidley 1x12 combo. After just a few minutes I knew..I was done. Done like the first time I met my wife. Done like the first time I played my handmade, no serial number guitar. Stick a fork in it.. DONE!

You can go to Ed's site (http://www.quidleyamps.com/) for the details but lemme say, this amp is A-FRIGGIN-MAZING (you listening Joe?).

The Quidley is an all-tube two-channel, point-to-point handwired tone machine. Switchable between 8 and 22 watts (don't let those numbers fool you...8 watts will have your neighbors banging on the wall and 22 watts will get the police to show up) and also switchable between open and closed negative feedback loop (so you're switching between a Fender / Marshall architecture that is super tight and punchy and a Matchless / Vox architecture that is more chimey and airey.

The best way I can describe the tone of the Quidley is either the most harmonically rich smooth singing JTM45 or the most ballsy gutsy growlin' howlin AC30 you've ever heard or played through.

If there's any way you have the opportunity to demo one of these do not hesitate. Ed's just starting out on a national level (he's over in North Carolina, right down the road from Swart Amps and Mojo Musical Supply) and so dealerships are few and far between but anyone who loves that thick howling woody sound of Billy Gibbons, Bluesbreakers era Clapton, Paul Kossoff, etc. you owe it to yourself to consider a Quidley.

Finally, I guess after all that I should state that I am in NO WAY affiliated with Quidley or any dealership. I'm just a guy who's been chasing a sound in his head for a few decades.

Good luck in your search!