Re: Davy Knowles in the August "Guitar Player" Magazine

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:
bigjeffjones wrote:

LLB?  Long legged boys?  Lily livered Bohunks?  lilac loving Beatniks?

who dem is?

LosLonleyBoys?

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Ahhhh...
Real Emotion?

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Re: Davy Knowles in the August "Guitar Player" Magazine

Jane H. wrote:

Jim i am wondering if you have listened to the Roll Away cd yet. I didn't really listen to it until after the show I saw. I really love the disc.
There was many young people at the show in Baltimore. they will be back here for a free show at Artscape on the 19th. there will all sorts of ages there.
anyway i am not a musician and in no way a talent judge but I remember when you asked me what i thought of Bogie Bowles after seeing him with KWS and I remember telling you I couldn't help but take notice of him so that must mean hes good. i mean if i had gone to the concert with the intent of reviewing his performance i would have had more detail to offer. I didn't know who the drummer was going to be at the show and it was probably the first time i ever saw Kenny with out Chris Layton. so we know where Bogie went next smile
I really love Ross's playing. he's not flashy but i love the way he plays. At first i wasn't real tuned into Adam because at the show he didn't move around alot but as i have been reflecting over their music more on youtube and the disc i have noticed more of adam's contributions and i just really dig it all. i wouldn't compare them to anything else but for me they are a part of what i love about the music.
Like with joe, i opften wonder how much of whats played is dictated by Joe or Davy and how much is more original offerings from the rest of the band. either way they play great and have some awesome unique beats I think.
i know this is off topic but i just noticed thier online store opened with shirts for sale! i didn't have the cash at the last show and have been waiting for a chance to get one online!

Jane. I liked Aynley Listers CD better.

Last fall BDS was coming here on a Monday night. I tried to get the promoter to put them in the Road House which I was booking at the time. He chose to do the show at another small club that had a built in crowd on Mondays. That club was notorious for starting bands at 11:00PM. I chose to sit it out but a friend of mine who is my side kick and travel buddy for Joe road trips went.

The next day we talked. He said it didn't start till 11:45 and even he was about to bail. He stayed enjoyed it enought to buy the CD. He gave it to me. I listened to my usuall three times minimum to give it a chance. ended up giving it back. I asked him if they were worth a roadtrip. Not so yet. He is looking forward to seeing them again in Dallas though as a bonus to seeing Joe.  This is from a guy that I convinced to listen to Joe and came to his first Joe show in 2004. He traveled to over 40 shows that year alone. He may not have the Michael Lynch award but he is darn close.

He liked them he just didn't have a Bonamassa like epiphany.

I saw Bogie with KWS twice. Never would of pegged him for the Bogie he is today. Kenny had a govenor on him apparently. You are right Jane seeing someone in a certain setting doesn't always show all the talent they may posess. Joe keeps peeling back the layers of his gift. Davey is probably still finding them out.

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cathysiler wrote:

When and if anybody does go to their site..you will see Joe Bonamassa's name all over the place. And, when any of us have seen/met them, we do so as "Joe" fans. The way I see it, this symbiotic relationship is a win win. Like I said before..BDS andf Joe are really on the same team..BluesRock...and I see them as 2 generations, even though they are only 10 yrs apart.
  When I saw them in Baltimore I think it was a 21 and over show. There were many young people there who knew all the words to the songs..very impressive! The group that were my friends are already Joe fans. So, the more young people are exposed to the new blues the better for all!!                            Cathy

Cathy, I'm on that team too. I like blues rock. Or as I have said I like my blues to rock. Joe is doing his part to influence and embrace bands like BDS. I get it. I love having a band like them speaking to the younger generation. Again I don't care have a problem with the love being shown for them here. I'm sure that they can't wait to get a skeptic like me to sing their praises. I still get it here from people that don't believe Joe is the second coming. When my son told me he bought their album and really liked it I was glad. I want BDS to do well.

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Hello all.....
       I honestly dont mind all the chatter about Back Door Slam on my forum.  Actually that is part of what its here for.  They are good kids from my understanding ( we have never met) and they are young blues rock playing kids who are doing great right now.  My advice to them is to take it with a grain of salt and just keep moving forward.  Apparently Im the new guy to beat in the blues and with that comes the inevitable "blowback".  I miss the days of being the underdog.. In someways I still am and others I am not.  But I congratulate Davey and the "Whole Band" really.. My only advice to them is pick another cover other than Red House!!!!  UGHHH  Play the same music if you want, and do something like "Stone Crazy" from Buddy Guy.  Red House has been done to death.. By EVERYBODY!!!  I know the fans love it... But picking your covers is the key to setting yourself apart... I have heard Jimi (the original), Stevie Ray, Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani(Actually played it with him), Yngwie Malmstein, Indigenous, (jammed with them on it too)Buddy Guy, Kenny Wayne, Steve Lukather, Wes Jeans, Eric Gales, and a plethera of other artist do that song at a miriad of blues fest.  That song is like a guitarist Default setting... Free advice from the "old Man". You guys keep getting bigger and I ll have to charge you next time!!   Congrats BDS!! cant wait to finally meet you guys in Dallas... We'll jam Just not on Red House Please!!!
Joe Bonamassa

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pcornell wrote:

Jim, I think I originally got YOU to listen to LLB. At first I liked their sound and their story but once I realized that they had been thrust to the top (not what you know but who you know) and that they were a bunch of jerks that turned out to be essentially one hit wonders.......I decided they weren't for me. We've seen them live a few times and it becomes apparent they aren't all that.

BDS at this point just doesn't do it for me. I wish the lads well and welcome anyone that can assist in bringing life to the genre.

It amuses me when I read some of the things being posted here in praise of BDS. Someone wrote not long ago that one of their songs was so good that Clapton wishes he'd have written it. I understand enthusiasm but that might be a bit over the top.

Maybe (like jim m) a live show will help me get there. I'll be at the HOB Dallas show as well and can probably understand better then.

Yes you did. I bought the album and loved it. My wife heard it and for the first time borrowed a CD from me. I bought the DVD. I use them to illustrate the point that it was the whole band that made them unique at the time.
Not just one guy.

The best band you ever introduced me to is still The Mighty Orq. I liked their album. Their second album is different but just as good. Orq is a lot like Davey Knowles in that he is a smoking guitar player. The bass player is OK the drummer is like Mitch Mitchell that can sing.

I know what you are saying. Bands like Orq have been struggling for years. He is 29. Why have they not made the next level.

I have a theory. CAA. One of the biggest and best booking agents out there. They have Clapton, John Mayer to name a few.  BDS getting signed by them is the key to their success in my opinion.

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Joe Bonamassa wrote:

Hello all.....
       I honestly dont mind all the chatter about Back Door Slam on my forum.  Actually that is part of what its here for.  They are good kids from my understanding ( we have never met) and they are young blues rock playing kids who are doing great right now.  My advice to them is to take it with a grain of salt and just keep moving forward.  Apparently Im the new guy to beat in the blues and with that comes the inevitable "blowback".  I miss the days of being the underdog.. In someways I still am and others I am not.  But I congratulate Davey and the "Whole Band" really.. My only advice to them is pick another cover other than Red House!!!!  UGHHH  Play the same music if you want, and do something like "Stone Crazy" from Buddy Guy.  Red House has been done to death.. By EVERYBODY!!!  I know the fans love it... But picking your covers is the key to setting yourself apart... I have heard Jimi (the original), Stevie Ray, Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani(Actually played it with him), Yngwie Malmstein, Indigenous, (jammed with them on it too)Buddy Guy, Kenny Wayne, Steve Lukather, Wes Jeans, Eric Gales, and a plethera of other artist do that song at a miriad of blues fest.  That song is like a guitarist Default setting... Free advice from the "old Man". You guys keep getting bigger and I ll have to charge you next time!!   Congrats BDS!! cant wait to finally meet you guys in Dallas... We'll jam Just not on Red House Please!!!
Joe Bonamassa

Hey Joe.....

Maybe they should cover "Hey Joe"??

You're right about Red House being a "go to" cover, but I think they might have just added it as a nod to Hendrix, as are the covers of Back Door Slam and Outside Woman Blues nods to Cray and Clapton.  Plus, you're right.....it fires up the audience.....

But you're also right about picking something off the beaten track to make a mark.

I'd LOVE to see them cover some Peter Green stuff.....

See you guys in Texas.....

PS.....I'd love to see YOU cover some Peter Green stuff!!

They're at home still runnin' for bells
Better San Juan
Than that blue collar hell

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BluesMan wrote:

There is really two reasons that Back Door Slam's fame has grown so quickly. First, they are, as Bill S. said, "the Read Deal". And second, good things come to good people and you will not meet anyone nicer, more polite or as humble as the three lads from Isle of Man.

In addition, it's a credit to Joe that he allows us to go on and on about other groups. Of course, why should the greatest guitarist in the world fear anything, right Jim?

Roy

That is a common trait between BDS and Joe. Knowing that you need to connect with the fans. I get that from the video's I've seen of the band. Also how you all that have seen them have reacted to them much in the same way we have reacted to Joe B. We want to see him succeed because we like him. Same with BDS. Talent is truly just part of the equation needed for success.

Edited to add: And a little luck helps.

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Someone posted earlier ( I didn't have the patience to "quote" it).....but they essentially said BDS is good because they are the real deal.

That's the only thing I'm saying -- lets let them simmer awhile before we anoint them.

It seems like each year we are bombarded with the next real deal, and like a herd of elephants everyone goes stampeding behind them, then sure enough, the flame goes out and its on to the next real deal.

Time will tell.

We hope that 5 years from now we are still having this conversation as blues-rock can stand to have a lot of things good going its way.

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

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Is Guitar Player subscription only? I can't find it on local newstands. Does Barnes & Noble sell it?

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What is success? Is it do yo' own thang, or is it to join the rest?   -Allen Toussaint

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ohiodawg13 wrote:

Is Guitar Player subscription only? I can't find it on local newstands. Does Barnes & Noble sell it?

                                                                                                      Searchin',

                                                                                                      J Dawg

Hey Dawg.....maybe Shred can hook you up.....

They're at home still runnin' for bells
Better San Juan
Than that blue collar hell

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ohiodawg13 wrote:

Is Guitar Player subscription only? I can't find it on local newstands. Does Barnes & Noble sell it?

                                                                                                      Searchin',

                                                                                                      J Dawg

It's on newstands, I saw it in Barnes and Noble.

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Got a copy at Borders in Pleasant Hill. Checked the stacks for Joe...............ALL SOLD OUT!!!!!!

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What is success? Is it do yo' own thang, or is it to join the rest?   -Allen Toussaint

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Joe Bonamassa wrote:

But picking your covers is the key to setting yourself apart...

That is the Master of good Cover-picking speaking smile

Honestly - most of the "mega-songs" like Red House, Hey Joe, Hideaway, Sweet Home Chicago etc. are just good songs and you can´t go wrong with playing these songs, because they always work for the audience (unless you´re playing bad of course wink). But yes, we heard them so often and there´s so many good songs out there that should be heard. Take "Sloe Gin" for example - if Joe hadn´t covered it, I would never have heard of that song ... what a loss!
So thanks to Joe for picking out the "lost pearls" for us and inviting us to musical journeys (I don´t know how many original songs and albums I discovered that way...)!

Phil, even though I love BDS I do agree with you that it´s probably not the best thing to do to "hype" them over the top ... they should get the chance to develop their music without the pressure of being the ultimate "real deal" after their first album. But I´m sure these guys are on a very good way.

Eva

P.S.: Joe, you´re not old. lol

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BluesMan wrote:
eva wrote:

Phil, even though I love BDS I do agree with you that it´s probably not the best thing to do to "hype" them over the top ... they should get the chance to develop their music without the pressure of being the ultimate "real deal" after their first album. But I´m sure these guys are on a very good way.

Eva

It always surprises me when people who have not seen a particular artist or band live, have reservations when so many people who have had lots of musical experience rave about the artist. I guess it's the old "I'll see for myself" attitude.

Here's something that I'd like to point out that I had not said before. The first time I ran through Back Door Slam's album "Roll Away", I was not impressed. Hard to believe, right? I even put it away and forgot about it for a while. Then I saw some more threads about how great they truly are, so I pulled the CD back out and listened again. This time I really understood what the hype was all about.

However, it wasn't until I actually saw these three fabulous young men LIVE, that I finally became a head over heels fan!! Trust me, their album doesn't do them justice as compared to their live show. And the live show I saw in Chicago was so over the top great, that I will sing their praise to whomever I meet, just like I do with Joe.

So to the conservative bunch out there that don't want to get too excited I say, don't trust what I tell you, just get out and see them ASAP!!

Roy

That shouldn't surprise you at all Roy. MOST people will never see them live if the recorded music doesn't do something for them. And they certainly are making that determination without the benefit of ALL the facts as you see them. It happens every day.

There is an old saying.......you can't convince anyone of anything, they have to get there themselves. I'm sure it holds true in this instance.

Lots of good musicians and great bands out there. Thousands. Most of them we'll never hear. In the hundreds of recordings and live shows I've seen there are only 2 artists(bands) that had the particular spark that made me rave like you guys do about many bands. Joe was one of them.

Not long ago Bill Parcells was discussing their first pick in this past NFL draft. The interviewer was pointing out how good the pick was and the potential he had to be great and help solidify the team. Parcells calmly said "let's not put him in Canton just yet."

That's all I'm saying.

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

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I'd just like to remind everyone that we are talking about, what is essentially, a teenage band. I know they are 20-21 now, but to a 59 y/o, they are mere babes. In person, you could easily confuse them with 3 kids on their way to the skate park. As a band, you can imagine them in their parent's basement or garage on the tiny Isle of Man, working out their songs.

Having said that I too will risk my "creds" to state that Davy is special. He has that unknown innate gift. He channels a much older bluesman. He has an old soul I guess. He doesn't remind me of Joe. (I'd pick Ryan McGarvey for that). He reminds me of a young Clapton.

Will the trio survive? I don't know. But BDS works well in it's current incarnation. And, when you see them, keep an open mind and ears..I truly believe you will be impressed. If not, it's not mandatory!
A true Slammer, Cathy

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cathysiler wrote:

I'd just like to remind everyone that we are talking about, what is essentially, a teenage band. I know they are 20-21 now, but to a 59 y/o, they are mere babes. In person, you could easily confuse them with 3 kids on their way to the skate park. As a band, you can imagine them in their parent's basement or garage on the tiny Isle of Man, working out their songs.

Having said that I too will risk my "creds" to state that Davy is special. He has that unknown innate gift. He channels a much older bluesman. He has an old soul I guess. He doesn't remind me of Joe. (I'd pick Ryan McGarvey for that). He reminds me of a young Clapton.

Will the trio survive? I don't know. But BDS works well in it's current incarnation. And, when you see them, keep an open mind and ears..I truly believe you will be impressed. If not, it's not mandatory!
A true Slammer, Cathy

I agree Cath.....there is something special about him that goes beyond just his ability to play guitar.  Young Clapton (I'd say Peter Green, but hey, 6 in one...) is a good comparison.....not necessarily guitar-playing-talent-wise.....yet.  But his feel for what he's doing.  It's in his soul.....

And I swear to God, he seems genuinely surprised that people are overwhelmed with his playing.....

Reminds me of seeing Joe at BB's, and after a standing ovation, he says....."It's really not all that hard, folks..."

Yeah.....special.....

They're at home still runnin' for bells
Better San Juan
Than that blue collar hell

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Having spent some time talking with Davy, out of the limelight I still get the feeling I'm in the presence of a player that absolutely gets it, just like Joe. I'm sure they are both still destine for bigger and better things in their careers. Seeing them on the same stage would be an extreme evening.

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What is success? Is it do yo' own thang, or is it to join the rest?   -Allen Toussaint

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BluesMan wrote:

So to the conservative bunch out there that don't want to get too excited I say, don't trust what I tell you, just get out and see them ASAP!!

Yeah well .... if they ever came to Germany lol !

You don´t have to count me among the "conservative bunch" - BDS has definitely a place in my top 5 bands and I´m happy to see that they´re having such a huge success-story at the moment, because they deserve every single bit of it. J Dawg is right by saying that Davy "absolutely gets it" and you don´t necessarily have to see a Live show for that.
But that wasn´t my point - I just thought that too much hype can kill the spirit of a band and I don´t want to see this happen to Back Door Slam. Most of the hypes are over before they started and it would really be a loss if that happened to these guys. That´s all I´m saying.

Eva