Topic: Has the "Generation Gap" narrowed?

The other day I asked the better half if she thought we were as old, in our kids eyes, as we thought our parents were when we were our kids age. Without a second thought she said, "No" and I agree. It's a dynamic that I have often pondered of late.

Where has the "Generation Gap" gone, and why? It seems that we baby-boomers share more values and have more in common with our kids than we had with our parents. Has music played a role in this? I'd be interested to read your thoughts on the topic.

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Don't know if this is useful or not - i'm 31 and my lifelong partner is 55 - I don't notice the age difference and didn't when I met him at 16 (he was then 40)

The only time it comes up is when we're talking about music - he got to see all of the bands I was too young to see (or when I wasn't even born yet) - like Led Zep, Thin Lizzy, The Beatles etc - which makes me really jealous and him really smug GRRRR

My mum and dad are in their early/mid 60's and there is a definite "generation gap" there:

My dad is a old-fashioned ex-pitman who was a teddy boy back in the day, loved Roy Orbison, came from the medallion man era, and whose favourite past times are now bowls, gardening and car boot sales - I love my dad - he's great, but he never got me when I started to go out and listen to rock/metal/blues/folk etc especially at any volume above zero.

My mum is a little more "modern" but still comes from the generation that used to play bingo at the local working mens club every weekend when we were kids with my dad playing pool/cards/dominoes in the bar - usually with me on his knee, she smokes like a chimney (again harking back to the day) but she still wears jeans and can keep up with my nephews now 3 and 9, she listens to Celine Dion and Tina Turner, Clannad and Enya so has kept up with the times although I remember the strains of Tammy Wynette, Dolly and Kenny Rodgers with a bit of Chris Rea thrown in as a kid - she too partakes in the past times of gardening, car boot sales and bowls (when she isn't looking after her grandkids while my sister's at work) - there's another difference - my mum stayed at home with us when we were kids - that's a luxury that faded out in later generations

I think that those born in the 50's rather than the 40's and beyond and who inevitably grew up in the 60's and 70's relate to the younger generation having experienced a much more liberal childhood themselves

vicky

"Stellar" a word used by Joe Bonamassa (also apt as a description of the man himself cool)

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I think it depends on the generation. My "child" is 38. She was raised in a time when you were told to tell your children they were the center of the universe. No corporal punishment, just punish the deed. She was not exposed to war, or other worldly issues, aside from the environment. Granted, I was widowed when she was a baby and so I think she was "extra spoiled". At any rate, she grew up to believe, all she was taught, that she was entitled to so much. She has done a better job with her children, so that's the reward.

My family and friends that are in their 20's are a different breed. They have witnessed war, disasters, and have a better knowledge of the world they live in...they don't seem to assume their lives will be easy. They care about the planet, politics, and those worse off than them.

I think music tends to reflect the times. I would give the most credit to cyber-world. I can only imagine how different my generation would have been with this tool!!

And Stu, I'm sorry, but your kids do think you're old! That's just how it is. Heck, I know I'm old..don't even need to ask for opinions! LOL    Elder Cathy

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vickyh31 wrote:

Don't know if this is useful or not - i'm 31 and my lifelong partner is 55 - I don't notice the age difference and didn't when I met him at 16 (he was then 40)

The only time it comes up is when we're talking about music - he got to see all of the bands I was too young to see (or when I wasn't even born yet) - like Led Zep, Thin Lizzy, The Beatles etc - which makes me really jealous and him really smug GRRRR


vicky

MsTia says uh no I was just a baby then.  And laughs out loud.  My kids think their Mom is cool and their Dad is a TYRANT.  I don't know if old as in fuddy-duddy kicks in.  I know they come to my shows when I play.  And they don't think my musical taste is too dated.

But they don't admit it, too readily.  So music has a lot to do with it.  So does attitudes about money.  and TV and Internet.

I have a problem personally with any attitude of entitlement.  With me; once you cross the line from being a child of God (the Universe) deserving to be happy over to be deserving of new car and allowed to eat because you're here, in my mind you become cannon fodder.

Freedom is not free.  Pull them britches up off your butt, you sissified twit.

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Re: Has the "Generation Gap" narrowed?

Judging from what's happening on Myspace for example, I think music IS bringing together the gens! smile

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Music has to play a part in it. My parents listened to Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett etc etc  and although I now I think some of that stuff is way cool there was a huge gap in our tastes. I listened to Free, Yes, Deep Purple, Cream.......my parents didn't 'get it'.

My daughter, who's just turned 20, goes to nightclubs where they play Thin Lizzy, Free, Jeff Beck, Atlantic and Motown etc. I get it smile

Maybe we've narrowed the gap because the music industry has died on it's arse over recent years? Maybe fashion hasn't really changed. Maybe we're just a bunch of tyrants (with you there Big Jeff) and we just won't go quietly...........

or maybe we just think we're cool but our kids think we're not but don't want to upset us? big_smile

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Great topic!

In my parents' generation, the parents were the parents and the kids were the kids.  Now, while the same is mostly true, in many families, there's also a friendship that goes with the respect a "child" should have for their parents.

As the old saying goes, "Age is just a number."  My mother, father and step-mother are in their mid-sixties.  My second cousin is 15.  I'm 37.  They've all been to see Joe with me and are all huge fans now.  Good taste and good music transcend the generation gap.   Also, as mentioned here, technology (ie this forum) allow me to make friends with people of all ages, from all over the world.  I would never have met these people and had the opportunity to build the bridge across the generation gap but for two things, our love of all things Bonamassa and the technology of instantaneous communication.

That having been said, I have to agree with someone else who mentioned that most of the "music" being made today is total crap.  I can assure you that if I liked rap, neither of my parents would be coming to concerts with me.  Of course, if I liked rap, I would probably not be able to compose a gramatically correct sentence...

-Rob

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ummmm to a point.

I'm 28 and I work in a university now.

When I see the majority of the student body, ages 18-22 - they look like little kids. I remember thinking I was a lot older or thinking the way I do now when I was that age. And they probably think I'm old.

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Very interesting topic! I'll reply at length this weekend when I have time, but for now this brief observation:

When I was young(er), we had to hide our smoking preferences from our parents and other elders; nowadays it seems that my generation has to hide its preferences from the children!

lol

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I think our kids think that we ARE old.  My mom had all three us kids by the time she was 21 and I remember growing up thinking she was old.  Not because she looked it, but because she would discipline us by saying things like, "I am 30 years old . . .  I am 31 years old . . . I am 32 years old and so on.  Just by the context she would use that in, I felt that must have meant that she was old and knew what she was talking about.  My mom stayed home with us until she divorced my dad when I was 12.  She taught us the value of hard work and honesty.  She was strict and I love her for that.

Now that I'm an adult myself, she seems very young to me.  She will be 51 next month and you would not know it!  She is one of the most beautiful people I know.  Most people who meet her think she is in her 30s.  She became a nurse about 15 years ago and I think it keeps her young because she's passionate about what she does.

My dad is 55 and I remember also thinking that he was old when we were growing up.  He was probably too strict--but maybe that wasn't such a bad thing.  I think I turned out alright.  We worked very hard.  We chopped and hauled our own wood to heat a five story (yes five story) farm house.  We tended a one-acre garden, including tilling, picking rock, planting, weeding, picking and canning.  My sister and I were in charge of all of the laundry.  My dad went on yearly hunting trips to stock the chest freezer with meat like elk and carribou.  We basically "lived off of the land".  There was not much time for play.

My dad does seem old to me now.  He lost both of his parents about two years ago, and it seems to have taken so much out of him.  He is retiring this year and moving to Alaska. 

My parents didn't play with us or talk to us much growing up.  My kids seem to need that attention on a daily basis.  I feel that many kids of this generation will lack a lot of the skills needed to funtion as adults.  Will they know how to budget, cook, clean, balance a checkbook or even write a check?  Then again, will they have to with dining out and on-line banking?

I'm not sure how music plays a role in the generation gap, but I'm not saying it doesn't.  I know it has been said before, but the thing I love so much about this forum is the fact that people of all ages seem to connect with Joe's music.   I'm just waiting for my kids to get on board.

"There is nothing to it.  You only have to hit the right notes at the right time and the instrument plays itself."---Johann Sebastian Bach

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BluesMan wrote:

Always thought you were cool Geoff, but that Big Jeff. Yes, he's the leader of the Tyrants. Hey, that's a Great Name for a band! How about, "Big Jeff and the Tyrants"? What do you think BJ, sounds pretty good doesn't it? big_smile

Roy

Roy,
dat bees da mostest brilliant thing dat you ever sayud.  "BigJeff & the Tyrants"
Wow I likes dat!

Don't be looking at my new band name, young Mr. Joe Bonamassa.
DAT"S MINES!

ohyeah heh heh

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Struck a chord here big_smile

Amsterhammer wrote:

Very interesting topic! I'll reply at length this weekend when I have time, but for now this brief observation:

When I was young(er), we had to hide our smoking preferences from our parents and other elders; nowadays it seems that my generation has to hide its preferences from the children!

lol

never give up, never slow down
never grow old, never ever die young

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I see a big gap betwwen my parents who are 74 and myself as in a generation gap.They were leave it to beaver .No drugs, not too much sex around,swearing,no loud music, no rock and roll or it was new and for a little younger crowd for them.No one ever lived together prioir to marraige,people rarely got divorced, they dreesed up when they went out,men wore hats.It was a total change for my youth.Now I dont see the huge differeance overall.The internet has brought changes,and I think there is alot of cruder behavior around overall.But the shock factor is not there as with what my generation was doing compared to my parents.

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Re: Has the "Generation Gap" narrowed?

The generation gap definitely narrowing, at least in my family and our friends.
My daughters (22 & 25) are smarter and more mature than I was at their age. The internet and media coverage are a big part of that.
We can talk about pretty much anything and there's very little they do that I don't understand (OK, maybe the tattoo thing...I'm still not sure I get that - no offense to tattoo fans).

We had 75 people in our back yard a couple weeks ago for my older daughter's college graduation party. About a 50/50 mix of "kids" in their 20's and us and our friends in our 50's (with a few 70 year olds mixed in) and EVERYBODY had a great time. The age groups weren't polarized either, everyone mingled and got along great. I'm thinking back on it as a result of this topic and if there is a gap, it's pretty small.

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I'll come back here in 20 years and post about the generation gap (or lack thereof) between me and my kids, but till then I can only speak of my parents. Musically, my dad and I are very much into the same vein of music. When I was younger (HA), at all of 13 or 14 like 4 years ago I was ALL into Zeppelin, Guns N' Roses, ACDC, Ozzy, that kind of thing. In fact, it was my dad who got me into Ozzy and ACDC. Only in these last couple years have I expanded my musical interests to the blues, and that's where the generation gap comes in...but...it's more like a reverse generation gap, since I'm into music that's older than what my dad's listening to...weird huh? My dads 41 now, so he wasn't exactly around for Cream and Zeppelin etc.

"Music is the only thing that you can share with a million million people and you don't lose, you gain. It helps you to get energy and to live long, because when your soul is very happy then you don't want to die." - Ali Akbar Khan

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Musicinmysoul wrote:

I'll come back here in 20 years and post about the generation gap (or lack thereof) between me and my kids, but till then I can only speak of my parents. Musically, my dad and I are very much into the same vein of music. When I was younger (HA), at all of 13 or 14 like 4 years ago I was ALL into Zeppelin, Guns N' Roses, ACDC, Ozzy, that kind of thing. In fact, it was my dad who got me into Ozzy and ACDC. Only in these last couple years have I expanded my musical interests to the blues, and that's where the generation gap comes in...but...it's more like a reverse generation gap, since I'm into music that's older than what my dad's listening to...weird huh? My dads 41 now, so he wasn't exactly around for Cream and Zeppelin etc.

Amazing!  me likey.

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