Topic: Blues Awards per Blues Foundation

The 2008 Blues Music Awards Winners announced by the Blues Foundation

1. DVD - Kenny Wayne Shepherd "10 Days Out: - Blues from the Backroads "
2. Traditional Blues Male Artist - Hubert Sumlin
3. Traditional Blues Female Artist - Koko Taylor
4. Acoustic Artist - Bobby Rush
5. Acoustic Album Bobby Rush - Raw
6. Pinetop Perkins Piano Player - Honey Piazza
7. Instrumentalist-Guitar - Bob Margolin
8. Soul Blues Male Artist - Bobby Rush
9. Soul Blues Female Artist - Irma Thomas
10. Soul Blues Album - The Holmes Brothers – State of Grace
11. Historical Album - Epic/Legacy – Breakin’ It UP, Breakin’ it DOWN
12. Contemporary Blues Album - Tommy Castro - Painkiller
13. Contemporary Blues Female Artist - Bettye LaVette
14. Contemporary Blues Male Artist - Tab Benoit
15. Instrumentalist-Harmonica - Kim Wilson
16. Instrumentalist-Bass - Bob Stroger
17. Instrumentalist-Drums - Sam Lay
18. Instrumentalist-Horn - Deanna Bogart
19. Instrumentalist-Pedal Steel- Robert Randolph
20. Best New Artist Debut - Diunna Greenleaf & Blue Mercy – Cotton Field to Coffee House
21. Song - “Gonna Buy Me a Mule” – Koko Taylor
22. Traditional Blues Album - Koko Taylor – Old School
23. Album - Watermelon Slim & the Workers – The Wheel Man
24. Band - Watermelon Slim & the Workers
25. B.B. King Entertainer - Tommy Castro

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No disrespect to any of the aforementioned artists, and no surprise. The fact that they don't include blues/rockers is NOTHING new. The "war" for respect and inclusion continues! But again, that's not the fault of the winners. So congrats to all!  Cathy

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BluesMan wrote:

Hey, where's Joe on that list?

Roy

<ahem> Back Door Slam not on there?  Maybe they have to wait until next year?

I may have to check out Tommy Castro's Painkillers now...

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Hmm, some of those artists deserve merit, but some seem predictable

Reminds me of a quote I read by Seasick Steve recently where he called the Handy Awards the "Handme" Awards as it was always the same people that got them.

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Well all i've got to say to Joe is:

On behalf of all
I express it most of all
Love and heartfelt thanks

You’ve opened that door
For more than just me I’m sure
To Blues Joe B Style

Genre forgotten
Now released from the bottom
To soar in the sky

You have done this yes!
Taken blues to the mass-es!
Blues purists go dive

Joe Bonamassa
Very best you are by far
Vocals and guitar!

As Cathy says congrats to those who are on there, but IMHO Joe Bonamassa should be up there at say at least a half dozen places

But hey there's always next year - he'll just have to blow their socks off with Live at the Royal Albert Hall (uncut with backstage footage) on DVD lol

Vicky

"Stellar" a word used by Joe Bonamassa (also apt as a description of the man himself cool)

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bigjeffjones wrote:

2. Traditional Blues Male Artist - Hubert Sumlin
4. Acoustic Artist - Bobby Rush
5. Acoustic Album Bobby Rush - Raw
6. Pinetop Perkins Piano Player - Honey Piazza
8. Soul Blues Male Artist - Bobby Rush
23. Album - Watermelon Slim & the Workers – The Wheel Man
24. Band - Watermelon Slim & the Workers

The list may not include EVERYONE (ahem) that I would have liked to have seen on it, BUT, I feel VERY lucky that I will be seeing FOUR of the 19 different winning artists at the Doheny Blues Festival.  Not too shabby.  Uh-oh, there I go gettin' all excited again - too soon, Libby -it's a week away - calm down!!!

smile  Libby wink

I know that Joe could play one of those kid's guitars with the plastic strings and make it sound good-
Bill S.

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So I am not going to defend Joe.  His stud ship is really non doubted.

But those winners JUST SUCK

Watermelon Slim...are you kidding??  That is terrible.

Tommy Castro getting a BB King award.  Sigh.

Bob Margolin...Instrumentalist of the Year...seriously, does Joe exist in this universe?

Sam Lay is a personal friend, and I would be surprised if he play 20 times last year.

Tab Benoit...dear God really? 

I hardly need to be told to hold my tongue.  But here we go...these are for the most part repeat winners.  This is clearly some sort of blues cool kids club.

Bill Perry died, and had a record out.  Post Humous sometimes is good.

The Chubby man put out a record that was his most lyrically progressive

Bonamassa does what Bonamassa does, which is simply play better than everyone else in the world.

I think I had a friend, but out a record this year, sold a gazillion copies, people loved it.  It was even a tribute to a traditional historic figure.

Last year our friend called for a boycott, and I ripped him...

So this year I will call for a boycott.  Until these people pay any attention to anyone no on Blind Pig, TelArc, or Alligator , or knighted by Iglauer...these awards are meaningless.

I call on players to say as much.
I call on fans to reject them, and to let these artists know that we see through this pandering.  This holding of the purse strings.

This is our music, and this is insulting to me.

Screw these people.

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I will say this once. 

Joe Bonamassa is in a class by himself and these awards are for people that can be classified.

I'm also SURE that Joe is happy for TC.  nuff said.

AND lastly, how many years did it take before Clint Eastwood was recognized by the industry he turned on its ear?

I'll take the checks and know that I can trust my fans.  KISS?

thefunkydrspeaks

MuchLove
BJJ

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Dino wrote:

So I am not going to defend Joe.  His stud ship is really non doubted.

But those winners JUST SUCK

Watermelon Slim...are you kidding??  That is terrible.

Tommy Castro getting a BB King award.  Sigh.

Bob Margolin...Instrumentalist of the Year...seriously, does Joe exist in this universe?

Sam Lay is a personal friend, and I would be surprised if he play 20 times last year.

Tab Benoit...dear God really? 

I hardly need to be told to hold my tongue.  But here we go...these are for the most part repeat winners.  This is clearly some sort of blues cool kids club.

Bill Perry died, and had a record out.  Post Humous sometimes is good.

The Chubby man put out a record that was his most lyrically progressive

Bonamassa does what Bonamassa does, which is simply play better than everyone else in the world.

I think I had a friend, but out a record this year, sold a gazillion copies, people loved it.  It was even a tribute to a traditional historic figure.

Last year our friend called for a boycott, and I ripped him...

So this year I will call for a boycott.  Until these people pay any attention to anyone no on Blind Pig, TelArc, or Alligator , or knighted by Iglauer...these awards are meaningless.

I call on players to say as much.
I call on fans to reject them, and to let these artists know that we see through this pandering.  This holding of the purse strings.

This is our music, and this is insulting to me.

Screw these people.

Once meaningful awards have made themselves meaningless because of this stuff year after year. It would  almost be an insult to start winning them now as the implication is that NOW you're as good as.........(fill in blank).

If it made a difference in record sales or concert attendance (it doesn't, see examples in list) then I would still get worked up about it. I now recognize this as a joke and no longer get worked up about it.

Joe gets meaningful votes everyday.......

PC

PS - still not following the "why" on the BDS guys. Good but not great, sound similar to many up and comers. Listening to one of the 4 songs of theirs I purchased, sound a bit like our old friend Jim Suhler on some songs. I'd rather have Jim.

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Dino wrote:

So I am not going to defend Joe.  His stud ship is really non doubted.

But those winners JUST SUCK

Watermelon Slim...are you kidding??  That is terrible.

Tommy Castro getting a BB King award.  Sigh.

Bob Margolin...Instrumentalist of the Year...seriously, does Joe exist in this universe?

Sam Lay is a personal friend, and I would be surprised if he play 20 times last year.

Tab Benoit...dear God really? 

I hardly need to be told to hold my tongue.  But here we go...these are for the most part repeat winners.  This is clearly some sort of blues cool kids club.

Bill Perry died, and had a record out.  Post Humous sometimes is good.

The Chubby man put out a record that was his most lyrically progressive

Bonamassa does what Bonamassa does, which is simply play better than everyone else in the world.

I think I had a friend, but out a record this year, sold a gazillion copies, people loved it.  It was even a tribute to a traditional historic figure.

Last year our friend called for a boycott, and I ripped him...

So this year I will call for a boycott.  Until these people pay any attention to anyone no on Blind Pig, TelArc, or Alligator , or knighted by Iglauer...these awards are meaningless.

I call on players to say as much.
I call on fans to reject them, and to let these artists know that we see through this pandering.  This holding of the purse strings.

This is our music, and this is insulting to me.

Screw these people.

You said it Dino. Couldn't of said it any better.

Watermelon is a homeboy here and has been nominated many times. He put 100 in a club. A few weeks before Joe B sold 700 tickets. That Blues Music award won't sell another ticket or gain him another fan.

I hope Joe doesn't even submit his next release for consideration. To me it would be a step back. He is beyond the Blues Music Awards.

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Well, I'm still excited - particularly about seeing Hubert and Pinetop - two BLUES LEGENDS who may not be with us much longer.

I know that Joe could play one of those kid's guitars with the plastic strings and make it sound good-
Bill S.

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Libby wrote:

Well, I'm still excited - particularly about seeing Hubert and Pinetop - two BLUES LEGENDS who may not be with us much longer.

As well you should be.

MuchLove (even to poor deluded Roy) big_smile
BigJeff

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ReverendPaul wrote:
jim m wrote:
Dino wrote:

So I am not going to defend Joe.  His stud ship is really non doubted.

But those winners JUST SUCK

Watermelon Slim...are you kidding??  That is terrible.

Tommy Castro getting a BB King award.  Sigh.

Bob Margolin...Instrumentalist of the Year...seriously, does Joe exist in this universe?

Sam Lay is a personal friend, and I would be surprised if he play 20 times last year.

Tab Benoit...dear God really? 

I hardly need to be told to hold my tongue.  But here we go...these are for the most part repeat winners.  This is clearly some sort of blues cool kids club.

Bill Perry died, and had a record out.  Post Humous sometimes is good.

The Chubby man put out a record that was his most lyrically progressive

Bonamassa does what Bonamassa does, which is simply play better than everyone else in the world.

I think I had a friend, but out a record this year, sold a gazillion copies, people loved it.  It was even a tribute to a traditional historic figure.

Last year our friend called for a boycott, and I ripped him...

So this year I will call for a boycott.  Until these people pay any attention to anyone no on Blind Pig, TelArc, or Alligator , or knighted by Iglauer...these awards are meaningless.

I call on players to say as much.
I call on fans to reject them, and to let these artists know that we see through this pandering.  This holding of the purse strings.

This is our music, and this is insulting to me.

Screw these people.

You said it Dino. Couldn't of said it any better.

Watermelon is a homeboy here and has been nominated many times. He put 100 in a club. A few weeks before Joe B sold 700 tickets. That Blues Music award won't sell another ticket or gain him another fan.

I hope Joe doesn't even submit his next release for consideration. To me it would be a step back. He is beyond the Blues Music Awards.

Do I smell something bitter?

Possibly Rev. The point is the Blues Foundation is a small entity. They think small. They seem to be happy with how things are. The same people get nominated the same people win. They to my knowlecge have ever nominated or awarded Eric Clapton. He has done more for the blues than anybody since the founding fathers. I once was bitter about it. I have now accepted the fact that being nominated only matters in the small world that is the Blues Foundation. It might get you booked at the few remaining venues that continue to book and promote the blues but other than that not much. Watermelons win may not even make the Daily Oklahoman.

We have a blues society here that maybe has 300 dues paying members. They know Slim. That's about it. If he had a front page write up in the weekly entertainment section proclaiming him as the Album of the year award by the blues foundation. He still wouldn't sell any more tickets to his next show here.

I just think the Blues Music awards are irrelevant. Nobody cares. In reality a Blues Grammy doesn't sell anymore tickets. Trust me I know. I have booked Grammy winners as well as Handy winners. It doesn't make any difference in ticket sales or notoriety outside of the blues world.

Tommy Castro would trade that BMA in a minute to be able to fill a 600 seater on a tuesday night. Joe doesn't have the BMA but he can sell tickets. He has fans outside of the Blues crowd. He doesn't need the Blues crowd to survive. They are lucky to have him identified with the blues though.

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BluesMan wrote:
bigjeffjones wrote:
Libby wrote:

Well, I'm still excited - particularly about seeing Hubert and Pinetop - two BLUES LEGENDS who may not be with us much longer.

As well you should be.

MuchLove (even to poor deluded Roy) big_smile
BigJeff

I'm only "deluded" because I mix my Vodka with V-8 Juice, Frank's Hot Sauce, Worcestershire, fresh lemon, either pickled asparagus or a hot dilly bean (green bean), and of course celery salt mixed in and on top of the glass. Of course, lots of ice and an insulated large tumbler are used to keep everything nice and chilly. By the way, the Vodka is stored in the freezer so as not to cause the ice to melt too fast. OK?

Huh, what? Oh I thought you meant "diluted". Well, never mine then! lol

Also, I've seen Joe take a bottle of Vodka and take a swig right out of it. I'm sorry, but I just can't fathom drinking Vodka straight up no matter how much the bottle costs. But that's just me. smile

Much Love to you too BJ wink,

Roy

P.S. My God, did I just wink at you? People on this Forum will start to talk!! They have already.......

Frank's Hot Sauce?  Frank's?  Heathen! Miscreant! Scoundrel! Drunkard! Villian!  Franks?  where did I go wrong?

Harrumph tongue
BJJ cool

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jim m wrote:
ReverendPaul wrote:
jim m wrote:

You said it Dino. Couldn't of said it any better.

Watermelon is a homeboy here and has been nominated many times. He put 100 in a club. A few weeks before Joe B sold 700 tickets. That Blues Music award won't sell another ticket or gain him another fan.

I hope Joe doesn't even submit his next release for consideration. To me it would be a step back. He is beyond the Blues Music Awards.

Do I smell something bitter?

Possibly Rev. The point is the Blues Foundation is a small entity. They think small. They seem to be happy with how things are. The same people get nominated the same people win. They to my knowlecge have ever nominated or awarded Eric Clapton. He has done more for the blues than anybody since the founding fathers. I once was bitter about it. I have now accepted the fact that being nominated only matters in the small world that is the Blues Foundation. It might get you booked at the few remaining venues that continue to book and promote the blues but other than that not much. Watermelons win may not even make the Daily Oklahoman.

We have a blues society here that maybe has 300 dues paying members. They know Slim. That's about it. If he had a front page write up in the weekly entertainment section proclaiming him as the Album of the year award by the blues foundation. He still wouldn't sell any more tickets to his next show here.

I just think the Blues Music awards are irrelevant. Nobody cares. In reality a Blues Grammy doesn't sell anymore tickets. Trust me I know. I have booked Grammy winners as well as Handy winners. It doesn't make any difference in ticket sales or notoriety outside of the blues world.

Tommy Castro would trade that BMA in a minute to be able to fill a 600 seater on a tuesday night. Joe doesn't have the BMA but he can sell tickets. He has fans outside of the Blues crowd. He doesn't need the Blues crowd to survive. They are lucky to have him identified with the blues though.

It's so strange to me that anybody would invest much energy in gaining recognition that doesn't come with a check.  Most Blues Societys (Foundations) are small and somewhat incestuous.  I posted just for info sake.

Joe's busy, doesn't need 'em, doesn't care (or shouldn't) about winning their respect.  He probably feels it is a non issue, by now.  (I could be wrong.)  He's busy working on a new album.  AND Joe can trust his fans...Thank God

The older men & ladies that won...should.  They've outlasted the reaper.

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As a dues paying member I feel free to point out that now, as Joe's tenure on the Board of Directors comes to an end, the Foundation has missed a huge opportunity. That is the inclusion of blues/rock as a sperate category, which in essence would have meant accepting the genre...but alass..Zydeco got one and the war continues.
  I can't define the blues, nor have I seen one that says it all.. But I do agree with Chip Eagle that the Blues House has many rooms. I hope Joe never stops calling himself a bluesman! I've said it a million times..What the blues will be in the future is entirely up to those that play it!!! Thank the Heavens for that!!               Cathy

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The ironic thing about the Blues Foundation is it is how I heard of Joe in the first place. My brother and I had started a Blues society based on the Blues in the Schools program. My brother was teaching at that time. We recieved a promo copy of ANDY. To make a long story short. Thus began my Bonamassa odessy.

Our first artist to bring in to the schools was Joe. I witnessed the power he had to sell the blues to any doubting Thomas. He is the kind of artist that can revitalize the blues. Yet he is not accepted by his peers. I couldn't believe it. Then I realized the guy's peers aren't Tommy Castro and Tab Benoit, Duke Robillard, and most definatley not Bob Margolin. His peers are, Page, Clapton, Hendrix, SRV.

The Blues Foundation had the future of the Blues in their house and never realized it. The blues could of benefited by accepting him but they chose to keep it a private club. They should embrace all the artists that pay homage to the Blues. They should even embrace John Mayer. Anything to spark an interest and revitalize the genre'

If my existance depended on the survival of the blues. I would want Joe Bonamassa to represent what I'm selling not any of those other artists expecially Bob Margolin.

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To respond to the bitterness comment, nope.  Like many musicians who might have just gotten a Gibson sig model, I bet I could give two cheeses about this group.  I won't speak for my friend, but I will say, nothing stops the gig train.

As far as defending a group that has given Bob Margolin an award pretty much every year, well god, what would upset me about that.

I am guess that giving it to Pinetop and Sumlin is an easy thing.

I wrote an article for a national last month, detailing why I think I walked away from the "blues".  And I walked away for this reason, I saw Tommy Castro 5 years ago, if I see him this summer, it will be roughly the same show.  Yeah feeling, yeah good guitar, yea good band.  No progress.

the first time I saw Bonamassa, it was an amazing guitar show, a rough and tumble band with a power trio model.

I gotta say, I see NONE of that show in the show I saw this year.  Aside from guitar.

I say this, the blues award is as relevant to my life, as the award for best lifeguard.  It is is NOT a public award.  It is not truly open to all the records.  Its selection process is not clear.

So why would I care?

Why would I care when in all honest if there is an award for a blues guitar player, and Joe does not get it.  I mean really we all know I am hardly a Joe teamer, but seriously, objectively, musically, he is the best blues guitar player every year he straps on a guitar.

No one can accuse me of being in Joes world.  Last year at this time I was posting a story to CNN.com about Joe calling for a boycott, and helping the publicist get me a quote to get him out of it.

Again, this is about this award going to the SAME PEOPLE.  Tab is a nice man.  Ate a meal with him two years ago.  Fine.  Saw him that night, saw him a few months later, then a few months after that.  SAME SHOW.  The thing with playing the drums, Sammy David Junior did that before Tab, and did it better.

Look at Back Door Slam.  I just saw them on Jimmy Kimmel.  Wow.  that is blues.  Why oh why do they not have an award?  Why were they not invited to participate in Blues in the Schools?

I know this guitar guy, has a decent resume, sold 25,000 records last year, has petitioned to be a part of blues in the schools for the past 5 years.  Formally.  He is a father, a teacher, his band is drug free, arrest free, all married guys.  His resume includes a decade on the road with a legend, and the recommendation of this english guy who plays a guitar and used to be in a band about dairy products.

But the foundation has LITERALLY NEVER RESPONDED.

So I, the reporter who writes freelance for two nationals now, decided about two months ago after hear a story I needed to do some research.

In the research I found three Blues Societies in the Continental United States, each with over 900 members each, had failed.  All three of them had asked the Blues Foundation for help.  They had petitioned not for money, but for organizational help.  Each of the requests were ignored.  When the second two heard about hte first one going under, they sent all the correspndence to the foundation registered, so it would have to be signed for.

So the foundation got the letters, signed for them, and never did anything.

How is this organization serving the history of the blues?  How is it keeping it alive?  I understand what they say they are doing, but I have not found much evidence of it.

Billy Gibbons owns, and funds the Delta Blues Museum.  He recieves no funds or support from them.

Morgan Freeman pretty much owns Ground Zero, and the town around it.  Again, no help.

If the Blues Cruise is sort of a gathering of the blues nation, well then are they doing anything there?  Not really.  Most of those bands are PAYING to play on it, in the form of paying for the cruise, and airfare to get to the boat.

Does the Blues Foundation provide health care for musicians?  No.  Bill Perry, RIP, had to buy his own health care, Bryan Lee that same.  Magic Slim got sick in Europe, and friends and family had to raise funds privately to get him home safe.

Does the Blues Foundation provide musicians with help with things like ASCAP and royalties?  No.  For every Joe who handles business well, there is someone like Studabaker John, ten records into his career, and struggling with every record deal.

I ask you this, why do they not do it? 

Why does the blues hall of fame have a permanent home?  A building?

I am sorry to be so negative, but it sickens me that amazing talent like Joe, or others, is passed over for RECOGNITION by the agreed upon foundation, in favor of the usual suspects.

Joe can sell to 10,000 seaters, Margolin huh?

The blues is in trouble.  It simply is.  We see it at Moodys club, we see it in Colorado, in San Francisco, we see it in Chicago.

I call on the Foundation to provide leadership.

Ask me to join the board, I will pay to fly to meetings once a month, or whenever you need me.  I will pay my own way.

Who fights for, and protects the musicians?