Re: They're a MEGA musician?!!

Libby...I met Laurie in Memphis this year during the IBC's. They were in the same hotel as my band. She made it into the finals and her CD got raves. She is a bad arse guitar player no question. She is in a battle for respect, but one she's fought her entire career. She is featured in the October '07 issues of Guitar Player and Vintage Guitar magazines. She was also campaigning to be an opening act for Dave Matthews..Anyone know what became of all that?     Cathy

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thestepchild wrote:

It was the same thing with me,I don't personally HATE Dylan and Lou reed. This has been a pretty good POINT, COUNTER POINT. But really nobody is disagreeing on those artists place in musical history. I think FM radio hurt alot of those bands. It's like "I thought the stones and zep have more than 5 songs."  You have classic repeat radio,country repeat radio,top 40 repeat...............As far as the hair bands, I thought you meant that was one of the bands that you cranked up when you were alone! HA!  Obviously Deezer we don't know each other and great responses.......we do have one thing in common, STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN stood alone!!

See, that is where I place the blame more with corporate radio and the major record companies because they killed a lot of good songs. Then again, I hardly listen to the radio, so I'm able to listen to a song like Rockstar by Nickelback without cringing. I have many issues with corporate radio, namely when I read that Clear channel told their radio stations to not play the new Bruce Springsteen record WHEN IT WAS ON TOP OF THE CHARTS.

And yes, Stevie was......good. lol

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vickyh31 wrote:

Hell I only said I didn't get Bruce Springteen not that I wanted him dead or anything!

Me and Dave and J Dawg too - i think we're in the doghouse or something! smile

From now on if it isn't a positive post i'm not posting! - is it hot in here?

Vicky

Just a good discussion. Sort of the "what is the meaning of life" discussion under the big oak tree.

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Deezer wrote:

Just a good discussion. Sort of the "what is the meaning of life" discussion under the big oak tree.

Exactly!

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Deezer wrote:

A lot of times it has to do with how they get whatever they're trying to get across. One thing about Bruce, you cannot dig him all you want, but when he hits the stage, he gives it everything he has. I've seen videos of him performing when Born To Run came out all the way up through recently. He still gives it his all. And by his all, I mean jumping and running around, and singing Dancing In The Dark as if he wrote it yesterday. And his songs really do resonate with people because usually he's writing about things we can all relate with. There was a line I read about Hendrix's vocals, something along the lines of it wasn't a pretty voice, but instead it was a voice that had learned the lessons that the blues and Bob Dylan have to teach. It's like Howlin' Wolf, Howlin' Wolf by all technical standards was not a good singer, yet he is one of the greatest bluesmen of all time. It's about the heart you're trying to put out. If we only worried about good singers, then we might as well throw out guys like Howlin' Wolf, John Lee Hooker (who half the time just talked) and Jimmy Reed.

I choose not to look at this as a competition. By taking this viewpoint of, "How is so and so popular when this guy is not," that is essentially putting music into a competitive context. Music is not competitive. There is no mathematical formula that says that this music is better than this formula. Why is it that a guy like B.B. King is revered as a guitarist when he does not have near the range as say Steve Vai? If we were going by technical prowess, then yes, Vai is the better guitarist. But when the heart gets involved, there is no clear cut reason on why this guy should be better than this guy, or this guy should be a star.

And plenty of talented musicians over the years have gotten loads of accolades. Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Hendrix, Clapton, Led Zeppelin, Prince, heck, even Carol King, have reached the top of their profession both critically and in popularity. I think where you are having a problem, is in today's music scene, where guys like Joe and Robert Randolph are taking a back seat to these bands on MTV and VH1. Although some extremely talented musicians like Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, and John Mayer have cracked through, many are not, and probably will not. This is more the product of how the record companies have taken over and are treating this more as a business. I guarantee you that today Stevie Wonder would not be anywhere near as popular as he was/is because his music and he himself cannot be pigeonholed into a neat little package to sell to corporate radio, VH1, and MTV. I'd say you probably need to take your quarrel about talented musicians being on the sideline up with these guys. In fact, there is a great documentary on the music industry called Before The Music Dies. It features musicians like Doyle Bramhall II and Erykah Badu. Very interesting and eye-opening look at the music industry, and it makes me glad that Joe has taken the path he has taken.

And you can disagree on the greatness of the songs written by Dylan and the Stones. What is impossible to disagree on is the impact that those songs have had. It goes beyond simple record sales. Those two bands/artists, combined with a few other bands, helped to define an era. You cannot like the music all you want, that's America in a heartbeat. But it is impossible to deny their impact on American and world music. That is true greatness that just cannot be touched.

you are right their impact cannot be denied....however, i never said it could be...remember this whole discussion came about becasue we were attemtping to discuss "mega-bands" that some of us dont get why they have been so mega so to speak.  have the stones, bruce and dylan made an impact? yes, so did the cold war and great depression....those are undeniable......my point however is not whether they made an impact or not but that to me they are artists and bands that I dont like. 

you are also correct that music is not a competition and all kinds of "lesser" muscians have appealed to me and others over the years....case in point; phil lynott from thin lizzy...he did not have a great voice, his singing in most cases was close to "talking"....is he as "good" as lou gramm, steve perrry, steve walsh, dennis deyoung etc... etc..... etc...? No, but for whatever reason he appealed to me and made an impact in my life.  I will say this though....even though its not a competition it is more pleasing to my ears and i get more enjoyment out of artists that perform at superior levels and posesses serious skills with their instrument or voice as opposed just caring about if they write lyrics I can relate to about working a dead end job down at the factory.

but music is unique....you like what you like and like what i like. its OK. you love bruce and dylan and i think they suck.....i respect your point of view but strongly disagree with it.

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For the record, I don't really care for Dylan. I just recognize his talent and influence. Kinda like Jeff Beck. So many people here love Jeff Beck (including Joe himself) and I just don't care for it. But I do recognize his immense talent. He's amazing. Just doesn't do anything.

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cathysiler wrote:

Libby...I met Laurie in Memphis this year during the IBC's. They were in the same hotel as my band. She made it into the finals and her CD got raves. She is a bad arse guitar player no question. She is in a battle for respect, but one she's fought her entire career. She is featured in the October '07 issues of Guitar Player and Vintage Guitar magazines. She was also campaigning to be an opening act for Dave Matthews..Anyone know what became of all that?     Cathy

Cathy,

The two mags you mentioned are two of the THREE that she talked about.  There is a third article, but, I don't know which publication it's in.  As far as the campaign went, you should email her and ask.  Tell her that the lady who took her picture with Mr. Mayall on Thursday night is a friend of yours!  Small world, yes??

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a band i really "don,t get" are radiohead.one word,crap!

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It take's about a half and a day to get there
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ditto! OK now i'm really in the doghouse smile:):):):)

"Stellar" a word used by Joe Bonamassa (also apt as a description of the man himself cool)