Topic: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

In a recent "South Park" episode, we see two of the show's main characters, Stan and Kyle, rocking out to the video game "Guitar Hero" as a roomful of their friends watch, rapt.

As they're playing, Stan's father walks in, asks, "You kids want to see something really cool?" and starts to play an electric guitar.

For a moment, the room is dead silent. Then, Stan asks, incredulously, "Dad, what are you doing?"

"I can actually play a lot of these songs on a real guitar," the father responds. "Want me to show you boys how?"

Stan spits back, "That's stupid, Dad."

Well, maybe not, say guitar teachers. In fact, the immense popularity of the hit "Guitar Hero" franchise--the third iteration of the game, "Guitar Hero III," brought in $115 million during its first week on the market--may be the best thing that has happened to the instrument, to rock 'n' roll, and to guitar instructors, in a long time.

"I have an overwhelming feeling that my business is safe for years to come when I see kids playing 'Guitar Hero,'" said Dan Emery, owner of New York City Guitar School. "These kids are really enjoying playing 'Guitar Hero,' and they're really being turned on to old classic rock" via the game.

Emery said he actually sees "Guitar Hero" as perhaps the best recruitment tool his school could have asked for.

I fully expect that (kids who play the game) will get into their twenties and they will have disposable income and they will decide to actually play guitar and they're going to call us up," he said.

Exact numbers of "Guitar Hero"-fueled converts to the real thing (kids or adults) are hard to come by. But something at work here clearly could be the most powerful advertisement for the guitar since the hit Richard Linklater movie "School of Rock."

In that film, Jack Black plays a teacher who, through sheer passion for music, turns a class of rock-illiterate elementary school students into a head-bobbing rock band. After the movie came out, San Francisco guitar teacher Jay Skyler said his roster of young students exploded overnight.

"All of a sudden, I had 9-year-old students," Skyler said, "because all of a sudden, everyone wanted a guitar."

But now, with "Guitar Hero" turning into one of the most successful video game franchises of all time, Skyler said it's not just kids who seem interested in playing the real instrument.

While some of his new adult students may not be willing to admit that the game drove them to him, he did suggest a definite cause and effect.

"My adult students, they don't want to cop to it," Skyler said of being "Guitar Hero" fans, "but they're all, 'Have you played the game?'"

The immense popularity of "Guitar Hero" does worry some of Skyler's fellow guitar teachers, who fret that the game may deter kids from being interested in picking up the real instrument. But Skyler doesn't share that concern, instead feeling that the long-term outcome will be positive.

"Basically, it's getting more kids into guitar," Skyler said. "So if you're a guitar teacher, or a band, you have to love it. They'll play with the toy for a while, but after awhile, they'll want the real thing."

There are those, of course, who believe "Guitar Hero" signals a death knell for real guitars.

"It's going to kill music," said San Diego bass instructor David Hilton. "It seems to me that as long as ('Guitar Hero' fans) can get really, really good playing this console, (and) it's not really easy to play (a real) instrument," that the guitar is dead.

But Hilton's fears may well be in the minority, and the enthusiasm of teachers like Emery and Skyler indicate that there's a real chance the ultimate result of millions of people getting hooked on games like "Guitar Hero" and now "Rock Band" will be a new love of rock 'n' roll.

Part of the equation, Skyler said, is that "Guitar Hero" teaches rhythm.

"In the game, you have four buttons," he said. "You have to get them in time, in sequence. So in a sense, even though (you're) not learning the specific strings, you are building rhythm in a musical context, which is valuable."

Not only that, but the wide variety of songs included in the various editions of "Guitar Hero" may be opening up kids' ears to music they haven't previously been familiar with.

"It's also interesting kids in great bands of the past that they might not have been exposed to," Skyler said. "So I think we'll see a resurgence of rock. Rock 'n' roll is about fantasy. If you can go and you're having a good time (and saying), 'Hey, I'm jamming with Slash,' that's great."

Even more important, suggested Emery, is that the guitar is a unique instrument when it comes to the way people connect with it.

"The thing that drives guitar playing is not the same thing that drives violin playing (or) piano playing," Emery said. "It is the desire to connect with the spirit of rock 'n' roll, and anything that builds the spirit of rock 'n' roll is going to build the spirit of guitar."

And that, of course, is good for those in the business of teaching the instrument.

"When a kid gets filled with the fire of rock 'n' roll, they're going to practice four hours a day," Emery said. "Desire drives the guitar business. So I view ('Guitar Hero') as a totally good thing."

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

A lot of my students play Guitar Hero and Rock Band and I think it's cool as long as it doesn't interfere with the real thing.  I do have to say though that most of the students who have come to me because of Guitar Hero usually don't last very long because the real thing ends up being "too much work" or "too hard to find time to practice".  I have to laugh when I ask them if it's too hard to find time to play Guitar Hero and they reply, "I just played for two hours straight before I came here!"  Priorities I guess.  If you can't play the real thing, then go back home and play Guitar Hero--that's my motto!

The game has actually changed most of my students for the better.  Not because I get more students signing up but because of all of the great music the kids are exposed to.  I used to play "Sunshine of Your Love" and get blank stares like they had never heard the riff before.  I remember when the only music some of my students wanted to play was Green Day and Blink182.  At least when they are learning songs from the game, it gives them some variety and challenge.

"There is nothing to it.  You only have to hit the right notes at the right time and the instrument plays itself."---Johann Sebastian Bach

Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

Posers.  Sissified, no driving, no reading, no working, self flagellating, junkfood munching, bellywash swilling, belly hanging wannabes.  Harrumph.

Go outside and play, weenies.

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bigjeffjones wrote:

Posers.  Sissified, no driving, no reading, no working, self flagellating, junkfood munching, bellywash swilling, belly hanging wannabes.  Harrumph.

Go outside and play, weenies.

lol

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bigjeffjones wrote:

Posers.  Sissified, no driving, no reading, no working, self flagellating, junkfood munching, bellywash swilling, belly hanging wannabes.  Harrumph.

Go outside and play, weenies.

WEENIES.   That made me laugh.

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

guitar hero is a video game.  it is not getting in the way of kids playing instruments.  well it is, but no more than all other video games.  no one sees it as a substitute for the real thing.  it provides people with an undeserved sense of accomplishment or people who dont take it seriously as fun.  i have played it once, soul is still in tact.  itw as fun but really i dont see why it is so so popular.

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

Personally speaking, I think anything that gets guitar based rock out to a younger audience is only a good thing. And, if it does inspire some to pick up a real guitar and learn to play, even better. To the naysayers, it could be worse - it could be "Rap Hero". tongue

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

bigjeffjones wrote:

Posers.  Sissified, no driving, no reading, no working, self flagellating, junkfood munching, bellywash swilling, belly hanging wannabes.  Harrumph.

Go outside and play, weenies.

That was good !  big_smile

Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

I've found that everyone I know who plays a real guitar is really horrible at that game (myself included, I am absolutely terrible at that game).  I've also found that it distracts some of them from playing the real thing too, so I don't know what to think about it.

I did love that Southpark though.  Of course, I tend to love every Southpark so go figure.

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

Its like the game SIMON with a tv screen and mp3 input.

I agree that more will learn/like classic rock, and there will be some diamonds in the rough that will want to learn the real guitar from it.

but it is true - for me, its easier to play the songs on a real guitar.

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

I'm probably not qualified to have an opinion on Guitar Hero, considering I personally am not a guitarist or a gamer... however, I will say that was a great South Park episode, as are most of them!  smile

--Vik cool

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Jane H. wrote:

i'd been praticisng my air guitar in hopes the classic rock station would do another happy hour air guitar contest. well last week they had a guitar hero contest. i haven't even attempted that, plus no Joe on that yet which defeats half of my purpose.

Jane ,I may have missed it or dont remmember,did anything happen to the air guitar contest?did you do it?

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

What is South Park?

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

bigjeffjones wrote:

What is South Park?

yikes

You've never heard of South Park?  It's only one of the most hilarious shows....ever.

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Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

bigjeffjones wrote:

What is South Park?

Cartoon on Comedy Central. Its like 3rd grade kids swearing and getting into trouble. Its for adults - but its funny. you gotta see it just once.

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MontiusWinston wrote:
bigjeffjones wrote:

What is South Park?

yikes

You've never heard of South Park?  It's only one of the most hilarious shows....ever.

He's gotta just be playing the class clown.
(Jeff, please tell us you were joking!)

--Vik cool

Re: Is Tomorrow's Clapton Playing 'Guitar Hero'?

bigjeffjones wrote:

Posers.  Sissified, no driving, no reading, no working, self flagellating, junkfood munching, bellywash swilling, belly hanging wannabes.  Harrumph.

Go outside and play, weenies.

Wow Jeff...you hit it out of the park. I was thinking something very similar when I read the initial post, but I don't think I could've expressed is well.
By the way, I almost spit my lunch halfway across the room...thanks for the laugh!

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

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Bill S wrote:
bigjeffjones wrote:

Posers.  Sissified, no driving, no reading, no working, self flagellating, junkfood munching, bellywash swilling, belly hanging wannabes.  Harrumph.

Go outside and play, weenies.

Wow Jeff...you hit it out of the park. I was thinking something very similar when I read the initial post, but I don't think I could've expressed is well.
By the way, I almost spit my lunch halfway across the room...thanks for the laugh!

We can't go outside now.  South Park is on!  !@#$% &*^(}

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
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