Topic: BluesWax Review of Sloe Gin

Maybe I just haven't listened close enough. Where's the "Blunt use of the F bomb" on Joe's Sloe Gin CD that Mark Goodman of BluesWax refers to in his review?

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Yeah I believe that he is way off base on that statement.  Plus he believes that Joe is more rock oriented and can't understand why he is labeled blues.  Go figure...

Music is good for the Soul...

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David A. wrote:

Yeah I believe that he is way off base on that statement.  Plus he believes that Joe is more rock oriented and can't understand why he is labeled blues.  Go figure...

I'm OK with him (the reviewer) having his own opinion...but when making a statement of fact regarding lyrical content...well, I was just wondering if I had missed it. I did not want to drop the reviewer a note via email if there was an F-Bomb I missed?

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Stu Craig wrote:
David A. wrote:

Yeah I believe that he is way off base on that statement.  Plus he believes that Joe is more rock oriented and can't understand why he is labeled blues.  Go figure...

I'm OK with him (the reviewer) having his own opinion...but when making a statement of fact regarding lyrical content...well, I was just wondering if I had missed it. I did not want to drop the reviewer a note via email if there was an F-Bomb I missed?

He might have a copy of Sloe Gin that has the version sung by Doug Henthorn....

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

5 (edited by Stu Craig 2008-01-03 10:27:35)

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Well let's not fill up their inbox with angry emails in light of the BluesWax nominations in progress. Here's the email I sent this morning. I'll post any reply that I get back...

Hi Mark

I just read your review of Joe Bonamassa's Sloe Gin.

Admittedly, I am a fan of Joes - but I have absolutely no problem with you having
an opinion (pro or con) about the recording, or whether or not it should be
considered a blues recording.

I was wondering if you tell me where the "Very blunt use of the F Bomb" is?
I know that was present in the original version by Tim Curry, but I have listened
to Joe' version countless times, and have been unable to locate it.

I believe there was an unreleased promo version with guest vocals by Doug Henthorn
on the title track (that featured lyrics true to the original version) but the official Sloe Gin
CD that was released to the public featured vocals by Joe Bonamassa - and Joe
opted to replace the lyrics "I'm so F***ing lonely" with "I'm so damn lonely."

Kindly reply?

Regards,
Stu

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Well done, Stu.  Please keep us informed.

Jeff

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
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I just read the same review and was thinking"WHAAAT?" I don't rememebr hearing any "F" bombs myself but ... who knows how he interpretted the lyrics. He did give Sloe Gin a 7 over all, which is not too shabby, but his review is.. thankfully... only "his f-in opinion" and we are all entitled to one.  I'm casting my vote, despite this Blues Wax reviewers opinion and wouldn't be here complaining if you didn't know who that vote was for! HA!  My favorite is still Blues Deluxe but, I really like the diversity of Sloe Gin.

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Does anyone else find it odd that they didn't review this album (the #1 blues album) until right around the time of the Blueswax Nominations and then trash it in its review...but then hide behind, "It's a good album, it just is not blues."  I think they are probably flooded with nominations for Sloe Gin and are trying o slow it down by this review. 

Just my opinion...

No matter how well you know someone, you can only ever guess.  How can you ever really know somebody else? It takes more than a lifetime just to get to know yourself.  Nobody knows the meaning of loneliness.  - Van Morrison

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Don't yell at me, but I will defend Blues Wax and Blues Review as Joe's friends. In the strictest sense this  CD is a tough one when it comes to Blues ears. It is more Pop than earlier works and all the bells and whistles make it very "produced". I'm glad everyone is pointing out their error, but I bet they got the wrong copy? Just want to keep things in perspective and not alienate friends. I remain a Humble, Devoted Bonamaniac! Cathy

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Very good reply Stu!!

Andre Wittebroek.

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Hello Stu,

Thanks for taking the time to email. The "F" bomb in question was on the CD that we received for review from Bonamassa. It seems that it was removed for the "released" version of the CD. A note has been added to reflect that in the review on BluesWax.

Thanks for reading and email anytime.

Steve Sloan
Editor, BluesWax
www.blueswax.com
ssloan@visnat.com
515.440.0610

12 (edited by bigjeffjones 2008-01-03 13:48:46)

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Very well done Stu.  Thank you.  "from Bonamassa"? hmmmmm

When I was younger, some of the critics said that Led Zeppelin wasn't rock n roll, some said LZ wasn't True Blues, one said they were a "flash in the pan." PFUI.

Harrumph, I say.  blase, blase, blase and so on and so forth.  ALL reviews are GOOD!  It generates BUZZ.

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
Blues From the Bottoms

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I would guess that they felt they should finally get a review of Sloe Gin published on the site since it was nominated. The reviewer who I'm sure felt it wasn't blues so he wasn't going to review it had to be urged to go ahead and write it. Unfortunatley the Doug Henthorn version was sent out very early. It obviously affected the writers opinion of the album.

I have the most problem with the reviewer feeling he has the power to determine what is and isn't blues. That is what is wrong with the blues community in general not just Blueswax.

Granted Seagull, Richmond, Around the Bend and India are not stereotypical blues songs. But then again what allows cajun influenced Zydeko to be OK. Marcia Ball has been nominated multiple times as a blues artist with nothing but Boogie Woogie and Cajun style songs on the entire album. Go figure. Tab Benoit routinley includes cajun music on his albums because that is what influenced his style. How come it is wrong to include some of Joe B. influences on his record. Double standard as always.

Until the Blues World realizes they are strangleing the genre' to death. The Blues is destined to be only seen in the Smithsonian.

As for the timing of the review, it appears that it was ran to influence voting. That may or may not be true but I can't help feeling that it was more of an editorial than a review.

14 (edited by bigjeffjones 2008-01-03 14:24:04)

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Well said Jim.  Blues is a feeling.  I listen to all manner of sin & sickness in the form of people who play blues tunes, but it ain't blues.  I play a James Brown tune or an Otis Redding tune and the band makes it BLUES.

I listen to Joe play non-traditional type songs on a blues CD.  Good for him...maybe it ain't blues but no, wait a minute...LET ME SEE...WHAT place for HOW MANY weeks on Billboard's WHAT chart?  The people have already spoken.  He can editorialize all he wants.  BUZZ is good...Can I get an AMEN!

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
Blues From the Bottoms

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Stu Craig wrote:

Hello Stu,

Thanks for taking the time to email. The "F" bomb in question was on the CD that we received for review from Bonamassa. It seems that it was removed for the "released" version of the CD. A note has been added to reflect that in the review on BluesWax.

Thanks for reading and email anytime.

Steve Sloan
Editor, BluesWax
www.blueswax.com
ssloan@visnat.com
515.440.0610

Stu,
Thanks for showing everyone how it's done. A polite, to the point question that received an answer in the same fashion.
It's amazing how often the tone of the question dictates the tone of the response (both positive and negative).

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

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jim m wrote:

I have the most problem with the reviewer feeling he has the power to determine what is and isn't blues.

I agree and was trying to think of a way to state that.

Anytime you deal in absolutes it takes away the feel that is in an opinion and leads you to believe it is fact. People that hold influential positions (like BluesWax) certainly realize that they are going to influence peoples beliefs based on their declarations.

I appreciate them including this late review of an early un-released version of Sloe Gin. As BJJ says, any review is good because it creates buzz. Even if the timing smells a little.

PC

big_smile

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

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Side note:  Am I the only one that wants a copy with the naught naughty word in it?

No matter how well you know someone, you can only ever guess.  How can you ever really know somebody else? It takes more than a lifetime just to get to know yourself.  Nobody knows the meaning of loneliness.  - Van Morrison

18 (edited by bigjeffjones 2008-01-03 17:02:53)

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Thanks Jim & Phil.  smells a little bit, yes.

Sidenote Chris:  Probably....snicker.

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
Blues From the Bottoms