Topic: Escape from the pressure cooker

Her majesty and I just put the kayaks away.  What a beautiful day to be outside.  We were out  2 hours or more, just chilling and watching pelicans, gulls & porpoises while I enjoyed a cigar.  The year before last, we were in the mountains in the snow, leg bones aching from climbing.  Maybe next year I'll go to the mountain cabin for the Holidays.  I like the contrast. 

If I had my druthers, I'd have a place in the islands, a place in the mountains, a place in the city (penthouse, of course) and my home in florida.  So when I got moody...

Do you folks like to get away from civilization sometimes?  Camping, Fishing, Sailing, anything?

JJJ

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That sounds nice Jeff..I love pelicans..unbelievable how agile they are. (You do know that watching birds for pleasure is a sign of aging, I have it too.)..Options are nice. Since you're new..I live in the woods.on a hill. Most of my warm weather activities center around the Susquehanna River..My family has an island with a cabin, outhouse, fire pit..yep 5 star all the way. This year a cabin with electricity, running water, and a wood stove on the river, near the marina was added. Now we can go almost year round. We are in an area north of the Conowingo Dam, the Conowingo Lake is there. One of the least used ones in the country. Almost all of the waterfront land is owned by the power company so there's no developement....All that means is we don't get loaded with boats..There are days when we're the only ones there... I go to cities for events, but I couldn't live in one. I guess I'm just a hick at heart! But, a well traveled one!  Cathy

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I would kill to be where you are at Big Jeff our December here in the midwest has just plain sucked.Ice ,snow, cold,rain, icerain, gray everyday,would love to spend a day at the beach with some cold Coronas.

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One of my favorite places in the US to visit is New Mexico, especially Santa Fe. There is something special that draws me back year after year. I love traveling the back roads and photographing the ghost towns. Known as the Land of Enchantment it holds a special place in my heart! smile

~Rhonda

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5 (edited by Pittsburgh Jeff 2007-12-29 22:59:41)

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That sure does sound nice Jeff. Me, after living in the cold climate for 50 years these old bones sure would appreciate some warm tropical weather. We always go to the keys when we need to get away. Isle morada is a favorite. Clearwater works too. Gulf side is great as well.
  Hey Jeff, check your e mail.

Take care everyone. And if I don't meet you no more in this world
Then ill, I'll meet you in the next one and don't be late, don't be late

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The Pacific Ocean....just a 45 minute drive when I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area.....just to hear the waves in the morning.....never forget it.....serene....

Dave

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Pittsburgh Jeff wrote:

Hey Jeff, check your e mail.

Me no find nothing yet senor.

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We live about as rural as you can get, along the Yukon, Alaska Interior.  No locks on doors, no keys outta vehicles, no crime, bears in the yard thinking about breakin in all the time, wolves eatin all the chained dogs they can, goofy antisocial end of the roader whites, alcoholic natives; pure wilderness. 

Ya know what I miss the most?   Guitar shops, blues clubs & live music, Big Macs, oriental food, wally world, waiting for movies to come out on dvd, fresh produce in winter, pounding on the glass at hockey games, liqour stores (live in a dry community); sometimes I wish we lived 50 miles outta fairbanks or anchorage and no further. 

I fly 20 sam's pizzas in at a time frozen on mail plane every month but even they get old quick, no variety.  Sometimes have subway deliver to airport and get them cold and half a day old but dang do they taste good.

Convinced there's no satisfying alot of us; never can seem to get it all.  And worst of all, I'm salmoned out. Ate so much of wild fresh caught King Salmon outta my own nets; I hate the junk; trade ot for halibut all I can.   

You got my vote for place in the islands just the same.

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Wow, glad you found the forum!  Yeah a place in the islands sounds good when you're freezing.

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10 (edited by bigjeffjones 2007-12-30 11:49:31)

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Well said, Roy. 
Yukon, I'm still bemused by the images created when I read "goofy antisocial end of the roader whites, alcoholic natives;"  Not offended at all, don't get me wrong, been both of those.  lol  Gives me pause.  And you thought bears were unreasonable...

Come sit in a kayak Roy (after you're feeling better) & we'll curse all the self centered,cellphone **** talking, no driving, ipod listening, low pants wearing, pc crashing, rude, no working, rookie, know it all, knuckle dragging hypocrites that smoke crack and do evil in the streets of the towns where we live & work. roll

Balance in all things, I guess...Gotta get away; then gotta get back.  Being Dad is the only job I do full time and with all my heart.  Use the force.  Hey, my cigar went out. 

Let us give thanks.  The new year is upon us.

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bigjeffjones wrote:
Pittsburgh Jeff wrote:

Hey Jeff, check your e mail.

Me no find nothing yet senor.

Maybe check your spam folder? I sent you an e to your sweetnsassy address.

Take care everyone. And if I don't meet you no more in this world
Then ill, I'll meet you in the next one and don't be late, don't be late

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Hmmm nope...what's the first 3 letters of sender name?  I might be missing sumpn.

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cathysiler wrote:

That sounds nice Jeff..I love pelicans..unbelievable how agile they are. (You do know that watching birds for pleasure is a sign of aging, I have it too.)..Options are nice. Since you're new..I live in the woods.on a hill. Most of my warm weather activities center around the Susquehanna River..My family has an island with a cabin, outhouse, fire pit..yep 5 star all the way. This year a cabin with electricity, running water, and a wood stove on the river, near the marina was added. Now we can go almost year round. We are in an area north of the Conowingo Dam, the Conowingo Lake is there. One of the least used ones in the country. Almost all of the waterfront land is owned by the power company so there's no developement....All that means is we don't get loaded with boats..There are days when we're the only ones there... I go to cities for events, but I couldn't live in one. I guess I'm just a hick at heart! But, a well traveled one!  Cathy

Thank you for sharing that.  Yes Cathy, I'm finally mellowing out just a little.  Somedays it's a force feed, though.  If you are where I think you are, US 1 runs just south of you.  I'm less than 5 miles off of US 1 down here.  Sounds nice, too.  My bro-in-law lives in Spencerville, Md and likes to camp out west of...Hagarstown, is it?  It's sweet to commune with nature.  Something seems to resonate.  Something in the blood.

Although I like HOT WATER...wink.  I stay in it enough.

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No offense meant to anyone with my comments. 

Rural areas attrack antigov, dysfunctional whites; reason is that they can't function in a normal society like you would find in the suburbs.  They'd be having problems all the time, getting arrested for this and that; why they tend to end up here where there is no law or control. Most do ok too other than waving pistols around when they go off the deep end (not taking meds) or just life problems.  You quickly figure out over half the whites here are hiding out from the law or their own minds. 

Example, Had a neighbor threaten to shoot me in the woods once, pointing that ruger at me up close with my wife about 6 foot away.  I told him I had an arsenal too, when did he want to start the war.  He turned around lost composure and walked back to his snowmachine swearing up a storm.  I had my mini14 folding stk under the seat of my skandic; didn't pull it out or anything like that.  Now I know a few might call the police on someone like that but here there is nobody to call and I didn't want to hurt the guys poor kids anyway.  I just put the word out that nx time, he got to waving a gun at me; I was going to shoot him dead and walk cause I had the witness; he avoids me like the plague now.  True story that's too typical around here.  I just never lived around lots of people like that until moving out here.

The Indians are best people here but most suffer and are dying from alcoholism; they are going extinct and its pretty sad.    The booze affects everything and is number one reason there won't be an Indian here in 50 years; whites will buy up everything.  90% of kids are FAS, most girls are raped at age 8 and half the boys by their uncles by 10; who were also abused as kids.  All the problems come from the booze.We had 400 here 100years back, now 28 remain.  I have dug graves for people who burnt up in their cabins, frose in snowbanks,  run off cliffs, and suicide.  Alcohol is central to it all and why they will just be a sad story of a people who no longer exist in another generation.

I still spend more time with the local Indians than anyone else but the booze just rubs me raw.  Wife and I have taught in a couple villages and it's always the same story.  Decent sharing nonjudgemental people transformed into walking ghouls searching for another drop.  I'll still be down the village hall on New Years playing their fiddle cd's thru my old twin reverb so they can dance their traditional jigs but I don't drink with them; seen too many friends flown outta here half dead.

So I didn't mean to sound harsh but just one of those negative things.  Sorry if I offended anybody; if you ever been the only white boy living in nativeland you would understand.   Have a good New Years.

15 (edited by bigjeffjones 2007-12-30 14:26:35)

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NO man You're golden...look at my picture.  I have hot blood in me...don't drink.  You know why.  I wasn't kidding, I've been both.  I do understand.  You express yourself beautifully and you are right.  Reality is harsh, but there is beauty in the land and the ebb & flow of nature.  That's my thought.  But share, Man.  I'm here.  I'm sad for our brothers, too.

I have spared a man because... 
There was a line in an old Clint Eastwood movie spoken by Bernadette to the Bounty Hunter after he states that he's just as crazy as the criminals.  She says, "No, you could be like them, but they could never be like you..."  I'll take it.

No Ron definitely no offense taken here,  Glad to be alive and have my family.  We like the contrast.  Hustle, bustle, loud rocking music...then get away.  When silence gets old the thrill seekers head to the blues club.  lol

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Zhurh wrote:

We live about as rural as you can get, along the Yukon, Alaska Interior.  No locks on doors, no keys outta vehicles, no crime, bears in the yard thinking about breakin in all the time, wolves eatin all the chained dogs they can, goofy antisocial end of the roader whites, alcoholic natives; pure wilderness. 

Ya know what I miss the most?   Guitar shops, blues clubs & live music, Big Macs, oriental food, wally world, waiting for movies to come out on dvd, fresh produce in winter, pounding on the glass at hockey games, liqour stores (live in a dry community); sometimes I wish we lived 50 miles outta fairbanks or anchorage and no further. 

I fly 20 sam's pizzas in at a time frozen on mail plane every month but even they get old quick, no variety.  Sometimes have subway deliver to airport and get them cold and half a day old but dang do they taste good.

Convinced there's no satisfying alot of us; never can seem to get it all.  And worst of all, I'm salmoned out. Ate so much of wild fresh caught King Salmon outta my own nets; I hate the junk; trade ot for halibut all I can.   

You got my vote for place in the islands just the same.

I couldnt live a month in your shoes, my hats off to you!!....I got have the biggest, loudest city I can find 99.9% of the time.

Dave

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Zhurh wrote:

No offense meant to anyone with my comments. 

Rural areas attrack antigov, dysfunctional whites; reason is that they can't function in a normal society like you would find in the suburbs.  They'd be having problems all the time, getting arrested for this and that; why they tend to end up here where there is no law or control. Most do ok too other than waving pistols around when they go off the deep end (not taking meds) or just life problems.  You quickly figure out over half the whites here are hiding out from the law or their own minds. 

Example, Had a neighbor threaten to shoot me in the woods once, pointing that ruger at me up close with my wife about 6 foot away.  I told him I had an arsenal too, when did he want to start the war.  He turned around lost composure and walked back to his snowmachine swearing up a storm.  I had my mini14 folding stk under the seat of my skandic; didn't pull it out or anything like that.  Now I know a few might call the police on someone like that but here there is nobody to call and I didn't want to hurt the guys poor kids anyway.  I just put the word out that nx time, he got to waving a gun at me; I was going to shoot him dead and walk cause I had the witness; he avoids me like the plague now.  True story that's too typical around here.  I just never lived around lots of people like that until moving out here.

The Indians are best people here but most suffer and are dying from alcoholism; they are going extinct and its pretty sad.    The booze affects everything and is number one reason there won't be an Indian here in 50 years; whites will buy up everything.  90% of kids are FAS, most girls are raped at age 8 and half the boys by their uncles by 10; who were also abused as kids.  All the problems come from the booze.We had 400 here 100years back, now 28 remain.  I have dug graves for people who burnt up in their cabins, frose in snowbanks,  run off cliffs, and suicide.  Alcohol is central to it all and why they will just be a sad story of a people who no longer exist in another generation.

I still spend more time with the local Indians than anyone else but the booze just rubs me raw.  Wife and I have taught in a couple villages and it's always the same story.  Decent sharing nonjudgemental people transformed into walking ghouls searching for another drop.  I'll still be down the village hall on New Years playing their fiddle cd's thru my old twin reverb so they can dance their traditional jigs but I don't drink with them; seen too many friends flown outta here half dead.

So I didn't mean to sound harsh but just one of those negative things.  Sorry if I offended anybody; if you ever been the only white boy living in nativeland you would understand.   Have a good New Years.

Zurh,man that takes all the romance of living out in "gods"country.I have a couple of questions ,how long do you think you will live there?Do you stiil like it better than living in the burbs?

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Your hard sweet and sticky

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Wife and I have taught in Indian Villages, only white people, can't take white kids there, too tough; they'll end up hatin all Indians quick. Our son was 13 when we did a year at rough,racist  village; toughened him up and by the end of the year the Indians weren't ganging up on him anymore.  Now at 17, he's benching 260 and the Indians are all scared of him.  No worries about him hooking up with native girl, he knows that he's 1000 years ahead of them socially and won't even give the halfbreed girls the time of day, and yet there's something wrong in that too.

We live in another mixed split community now,  100 whites, 28 Indians, 200 miles from nx nearest town; kinda cut off by winter closed road.  I get along with Indians here, hunt, socialize with them ect but draw the line. They are not white people in the sense Americans see themselves, they are 50 years removed from the stoneage actually.  My family isn't threatened by the terrible social condition of the Village because we stay outta it as a family; it's not for us to judge them in our so enthrocentric manner; bottomline.  Indians are really decent good people, not near as materialistic as us greedy whites but the alcohol has become their culture and the alcohol brings in all the terrible child abuse, violence, and pain.  I'm not against alcohol or social drinking but Indians have it bad and I feel sorry for their lack of any future.

I actually like something about the place here, mostly the country, the river, the going back in time aspect, and the fact that every vehicle I see on the 5-6 miles of road in our community; I know who it is and all their business.  There is a sense of security in that. When I go into Fairbanks, I see car after car and don't know any of them, now that really drives me nuts.   Wife and I both have our teaching degrees/certs and were offered positions in Fairbanks & Anchorage last summer; just couldn't swing the big move; or didn't want to; didn't want to do the double mortgage thing but our place is free and clear nx summer might rethink it all.  Our son starts school UAF and he can't wait.  Actually, I think we'll keep this place as retirement and summer home.  I like the rural living aspect, seasonal subsistence lifestyle, slower pace but know we got to get back to burbs.

Ya know kids that have lived here their entire lives don't do so well; they limit themselves to what they see here.  Not very many go onto school. 

All in all, the suburbs can't be beat.  The further out you get, the lower class people you find, no joke; probably everywhere across America like that too.   I wouldn't live in the city and I don't want to stay this far outin the sticks forever either.  Ya know, we moved to Alaska from back east in early 90's; had this dream of slower paced lifestyle and we did the bush living experience, now ready to kinda get back to the real world.  LIke I said most of us are never satisfied.   

But anyone ever gets up this way on a visit to Ak,  we have a guestroom and I'll give ya a boat ride up into Canada & down river, show ya around some.  Nice in the summer, heaven if you like eating wild fresh caught salmon 3 times a day, ha.  Roy keeps promising me he's coming up for a visit.