Topic: Self tuning guitar?
Sorry if this is a repost. Check this out. Self tuning Gibson? Wonder if it actually works accurately or just an expensive gadget.
1 2007-12-04 11:56:46 (edited by DAFFYDRUNK 2007-12-04 11:58:00)
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on these, I wonder what it does when you put on a new set of strings? that's sweet!
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NPB_EST.1979 wrote:
on these, I wonder what it does when you put on a new set of strings? that's sweet!
They show on the video. Kinda slick, although I'm gonna guess you'd still have to go through whatever string stretching routine you do and set the thing off again. I guess the LP version goes on sale 12-7 for a retail price of $2400? Street price?... Dunno. If it really works it would be a way to switch tunings quickly.
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Electricity going through the strings?! Not for me! For guys like Joe who have enough electricity going through their fingers to offset any problems I can see, but...
Who knows? Maybe the greatest, but who doesn't like their tunings just their own way...I haven't checked out a fancy guitar feature in years, but it looks like I have no choice now, being the eternally curious type, especially when it's electronics...
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At the 2007 London Guitar Show our booth (alloutguitar.com) was next to the Tronical booth (celebrity presence provided by Uli J Roth who is having one of his Sky Guitars outfitted with the system)
I did get to try a Strat with the system installed and it was pretty cool... The best feature to me was the ability with the push of a button to effect a change of the guitar into a non-standard tuning (takes approx 2 seconds) which I suppose could be useful to some......
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6 2007-12-04 21:55:52 (edited by Budda 2007-12-04 21:58:50)
Re: Self tuning guitar?
I got to play a Les Paul "Robot" guitar, the other day. Pretty cool. It's basically a Les Paul Studio.
New strings? Lock them into the locking tuners, clip the ends, strum all 6 open strings, and pull out the "Tune" button. Simple.
There is an extra knob that you pull out and turn to a selected tuning. Strum all 6 strings, open. Push the button on the top of the knob (kinda like the button on a Strat's S-1 switch), and wait a couple of seconds until it flashes blue. Then, push the whole knob back in. Done. New tuning.
To return to standard tuning, you just pull the Tuner Knob out, and strum all 6 strings open, without selecting a new tuning.
It seemed to work flawlessly. Except, "C" tuning didn't seem to be really spot on. The only visual differences are the extra Tune Knob, and the motorized tuning machines, which are aabout 2 or 3 time thicker than standard machines.
It WAS pretty cool to watch them move on their own!
Now, how soon til they merge the self tuning guitar with the "Virtual Strat"? All that will be left, is a self-PLAYING guitar! LOL
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Re: Self tuning guitar?
What power source do they use?
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What power source do they use?
A battery that supposedly lasts for 250-300 tunings...
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mikeb wrote:
CiaranM wrote:What power source do they use?
A battery that supposedly lasts for 250-300 tunings...
Can't say that I'm fully sold by that idea, rechargeable batteries never last forever. I find mobile phone batteries never stay trustworthy more than a couple of years. For Christ's sake I hope that that battery is replaceable.
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What power source do they use?
A Lithium Ion Battery...hopefully the somebody who "has" to tinker but has no clue...won't
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CiaranM wrote:
mikeb wrote:CiaranM wrote:What power source do they use?
A battery that supposedly lasts for 250-300 tunings...
Can't say that I'm fully sold by that idea, rechargeable batteries never last forever. I find mobile phone batteries never stay trustworthy more than a couple of years. For Christ's sake I hope that that battery is replaceable.
Not only replaceable but manufactured repeatedly over time...Lithium Ion batteries last a VERY long time if maintained properly
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Rocket wrote:
CiaranM wrote:What power source do they use?
A Lithium Ion Battery...hopefully the somebody who "has" to tinker but has no clue...won't
Yeah, this is my concern. Quoting Wikipedia on this matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery):
"At a 100% charge level, a typical Li-ion laptop battery that is full most of the time at 25 degrees Celsius or 77 degrees Fahrenheit will irreversibly lose approximately 20% capacity per year."
Basically, following that kind of progression, after 5 years my battery will have 33% of the capacity it used to, meaning I get 100 tunings, opposed to 300, before I have to put in on charge, which as a result of the decay of Lithium Ion batteries will take longer than the original hour and a half. Unless the battery is replaceable, that's a hell of a costly experience, and even if it is, I don't like the idea of cashing out thousands for a guitar that I've got to keep cashing out on to keep operating properly.
Why not have it drawn power from a mains source. Imagine a configuration where you could have one lead that supplys both mains power and transmits analogue signal to a bus, kind of like a standard pedal, which then feeds to your normal rig. Seems far more reliable to me.
Re: Self tuning guitar?
Rocket wrote:
Not only replaceable but manufactured repeatedly over time...Lithium Ion batteries last a VERY long time if maintained properly
Yeah but therein lies the problem. Maintenance of musical instruments isn't something the average guitarist has a team of engineers to keep on top of for them, nevertheless has the standard sound engineer any experience of charging guitars up for gigs. I can see the maintenance of these batteries not fitting into the current way in which guitars are maintained, and thereby being likely to be mistreated and damaged.
Also, take a professional player such as Joe who has a vast collection of guitars, and happily chops and changes between them for all kinds of manners. Buying one of these guitars would require him to make regular use of it, as well as to keep an idea of how its charging cycle is being controlled.
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I doubt Joe has a real deep desire for this guitar...But you are right. Can you imagine a guitarist who only has one of these and "something" goes wrong? After getting used to having no backup guitar (subtle deception of not needing with the different tunings, etc.), no tuner or maybe not even a guitar tech?!
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15 2007-12-05 00:09:30 (edited by Rocket 2007-12-05 00:11:31)
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Rocket wrote:CiaranM wrote:What power source do they use?
A Lithium Ion Battery...hopefully the somebody who "has" to tinker but has no clue...won't
Yeah, this is my concern. Quoting Wikipedia on this matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery):
"At a 100% charge level, a typical Li-ion laptop battery that is full most of the time at 25 degrees Celsius or 77 degrees Fahrenheit will irreversibly lose approximately 20% capacity per year."Basically, following that kind of progression, after 5 years my battery will have 33% of the capacity it used to, meaning I get 100 tunings, opposed to 300, before I have to put in on charge, which as a result of the decay of Lithium Ion batteries will take longer than the original hour and a half. Unless the battery is replaceable, that's a hell of a costly experience, and even if it is, I don't like the idea of cashing out thousands for a guitar that I've got to keep cashing out on to keep operating properly.
Why not have it drawn power from a mains source. Imagine a configuration where you could have one lead that supplys both mains power and transmits analogue signal to a bus, kind of like a standard pedal, which then feeds to your normal rig. Seems far more reliable to me.
Definitely not more reliable! Any kind of mains problem could render the function useless. Or worse-irreparable. Plus it could cause myriad problems itself, including to the mains and other gear!! Not the right approach.
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