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Topic: Ken Follett-What do you read?

24 hours ago, I had the pleasure of being put in a hard cast up to my knee...non-weight bearing...crutches...I'll spare you the details, but getting around on crutches looks easier than it is and going up and down steps on your butt is interesting!!!  If I don't find humor in this, I'll lose it!!!   lol lol lol  Now, you don't really know me, know me, BUT I am a really active person...this is KILLING me and I don't get my cast off until Dec. 14th!!!  I annually host a huge sit down dinner on Christmas Eve, not a busy time of year or anything.  big_smile

I started planning how to make the best out of my "current situation" and find some enjoyment.  Spend quality time with my daughter, while I teach her how to cook some of her favorite meals...write my Christmas cards early, spend more time on them, tell everyone especially how much I love them & cherish them...start my Christmas baking a little early...I have a little roll cart to get around and bend my leg on...Get caught up on lots of stuff work related at my desk...boring...

One of my favorite pastimes is reading, but I find I don't do it as much as I like, so I raided my son's room who went off to college for some of his books.  He's into science (astronomy, physics, weather) but is also into historical fiction and action thrillers. So,  last night I started reading "Pillars of the Earth" by Ken Follett. This is my son's favorite book of all time & he's read hundreds of books; he first read it when he was in 8th grade and read the sequel when he came home on fall break, which came out in October.

I got an e-mail from Borders this morning with a coupon and the e-mail was about Oprah doing a positive rant for her book club about Pillars of the Earth. It even included an audio clip of Oprah. What a coincidence, I couldn't believe it, especially since the book was completed in March of 1988.  The sequel may have stirred some interest and got people looking at the back catalog, so to speak. (like music)

What I'm finding really interesting about Ken Follett is, even though I've never completed any of his books, I see so many correlations between him and the world of music.  His "people" did not want him to write this book, he had very little support.  They wanted him to do the same old, same old, since he already had books on the best-seller lists, they wanted him to spit out another of the same.  (sorta' like how record companies treat musicians when they are on contract and making them $$$$)  Ken did it his own way and Pillars has been very slow and steady, but Ken realized its popularity has grown by word of mouth, not unlike a musician, whose not hooked up to a big record label. smile (You can't imagine how many people my son & hubby have turned onto this book.)

Ken is into the Beatles & the blues and is a bass player and has a band called Damn Right I Got the Blues.  I've been on his mailing list for years, before my son even had an e-mail address.  (book appearances, release dates etc. and I've read alot about him) Last year, I got an e-mail about some thriller on a DVD, I bought it for my son for Christmas and the ordering could only be done through the mail, so I wrote Ken a little note and included a Joe card with some detail. smile  So, check out Ken's site, especially the UK fans, you may see him in the audience some day!

Has anyone read any of Ken's books?  Pillars might have a little too much violence for me, not sure yet.  My hubby said it took him a little to get into it, then he was hooked, couldn't put it down.

http://www.ken-follett.com/biography/index.html
http://www.ken-follett.com/music/index.html
http://www.bordersmedia.com/features/vi … okclub.asp

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Angela - hope you make a good recovery and get that cast off soon.  A few years ago I had to use crutches after a sporting injury and it was interesting - to say the least - getting to the living room from the kitchen holding a cup of tea.  Butt shuffling was the best I could do whilst trying not to laugh too much!

Do persevere with Pillars of the Earth: like your son and hubby have discovered it's one of those books that gets recommended by word of mouth, someone lends it to you then you get hooked and have to get your own copy and then you start recommending it to other people so the cycle continues.  It's one of my favourites now.  Violent? Disturbing?  In parts, yes, but you have to remember the times in which it was set (Medieval England when we were all smelly peasants running around in rags and felt boots)

Before I read Pillars of the Earth I never gave a second thought to how some of our great English cathedrals and churches were constructed or how long they took to complete.  Shortly after I read it for the first time I had the opportunity to visit Salisbury Cathedral (as featured in the novel) and looked at it with new eyes, appreciating for the first time the craftsmanship and work involved and the realisation that the masons of the time built this wonderul building with rudimentary tools and equipment and in the most difficult conditions sometimes.  A humbling thought.

Other favourite books?  Too many to mention but if you haven't read it try The Magus by John Fowles or any novels by John Grisham or Ian Rankin.

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Hi Lyn,

It's funny that you responded to this post, I was just thinking of you because of Pink Floyd.  I wasn't sure, but I think you are the big Floyd/ David Gilmour fan and I had asked you a question about The Gigi album in the background...I followed Pink Floyd since the 70's and only recently, through the same said son, learned about much of their music is somewhat timed with movies, especially MGM movies...Dark Side with Wizard of Oz, Ummagumma goes with Gigi...When my son gives me the link to the story, I'll forward it to you.  (Let me know if I mixed you up another Bonafan!)

Have you read any of Ken's other books?  My hubby just finished A Place Called Freedom, he said it was excellent.  The biggest irony about Ken is he does not believe in God, but became fascinated with churches and one of the books on church architecture that he used for research...when he went to try and contact the author, he lived right on his street in London...talk about coincidence!!  One of the most amazing parts of my European adventures, which hasn't even been that extensive, are the churches...the history, the length of time involved and so beautiful and ornate...like a smaller scale wonder of the world!  I've read most of Grisham...I actually enjoy Nora Roberts (romance novels) and only read her on the beach, enjoying the consistency in happy endings...you don't have to think hard keeping characters straight and it seems to fit the laid back beach scene of totally escaping reality!  You can imagine the kidding abuse I take from my scholars!  smile

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Hi Angela

Yes, I'm the big Pink Floyd/David Gilmour fan you were thinking about.  I realise now what you meant before about the connection between Gigi and Ummagumma.  I haven't tried that one, but I've attempted to synch Dark Side with Wizard of Oz.  I'm a bit of a sceptic but it was a lot of fun trying to spot the connections, my favourite bit is probably the Munchkins dancing along to Money!  Is it purely by chance or was it intended to be that way ...  (cue Twilight Zone theme tune)

Getting back to books ... I'm such an avid reader that I can't always remember plots and characters.  Think I've read Follett's Eye of the Needle and Whiteout but perlease don't ask me about plot!  Do you teach English by any chance?

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Lyn,
I'm not an English teacher, but so admire them and the ability to write well.  It's an amazing feat to capture someone's mind and take them on a journey where they can visualize what's being said with some creative writing. Someone on this board was trained to be an English teacher, one of the Nancy's maybe?  My husband and son are both very well read, my reference to scholars was directed towards them.  The hubby doesn't care too much for TV and has always enjoyed reading and guitar playing...our house has a library filled to the brim and then some...it was a requirement when we moved from a big old English tudor that came with a beautiful library.

I have to get that Pink Floyd info, haven't read it myself, did see some of Wizard synchronized...seemed convincing and totally Twilight Zone at the same time!

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Lyn, If you check back, my son just reminded me that Ken Follett and David Gilmour are best of friends!  I totally forgot he told me that before; its mentioned in the liner notes of "On Wings Of Eagles" that they fly planes together.  I'm into it now, Pillars is great!

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Hello you two ladies,

Have you alreay become the "Ken Follett-What do you read" - post - exclusive club or can I join ?! wink

I do read a lot of books (or should I say a few tons of books a year...), because I study literature and philosophy. Lots of Goethe, Platon, Shakespeare, Hume, Hesse, Aristoteles, Frisch ................................ 
But in my free time I also like to read something else - I haven´t read a Ken Follett book yet, but when I hear you talk about it I think I should read one. Can you recommend one?! And can I read it in english or is it too difficult ?!
What else do you like to read - any all time favourite books?!

Lots of questions, but I hope you´ll allow me to join the club smile

Eva

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eva wrote:

Hello you two ladies,

Have you alreay become the "Ken Follett-What do you read" - post - exclusive club or can I join ?! wink

I do read a lot of books (or should I say a few tons of books a year...), because I study literature and philosophy. Lots of Goethe, Platon, Shakespeare, Hume, Hesse, Aristoteles, Frisch ................................ 
But in my free time I also like to read something else - I haven´t read a Ken Follett book yet, but when I hear you talk about it I think I should read one. Can you recommend one?! And can I read it in english or is it too difficult ?!
What else do you like to read - any all time favourite books?!

Lots of questions, but I hope you´ll allow me to join the club smile

Eva

Eva, if you're able to read Kant and know what he's talking about then I am seriously impressed.  It's too bad some of the philosophers didn't have editors to clarify their points.  I think H L Mencken said that Kant was such a bad writer that he hopes he is in he!!.

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eva wrote:

I do read a lot of books (or should I say a few tons of books a year...), because I study literature and philosophy. Lots of Goethe, Platon, Shakespeare, Hume, Hesse, Aristoteles, Frisch ................................

Eva - that is a SERIOUSLY impressive reading list.  I've often wondered about translations of Shakespeare into other languages: for example how do you translate words like 'forsooth' into German or Italian (I don't even know what it means in English) or do you read the original English?  Ken Follett would be easy after that.

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Eva,
Ditto what the dude said, some of the philosophers are really tough, Kant is impressive!  Do you like Dante?  (Divine Comedy or Dante's Inferno) An easy, but interesting read is The Beatles by Bob Spitz!  smile All you need is love!

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I haven't read much of Follett, but my fave writers are: Stephen King, Ray Bradbury, Asimov, Zadie White, etc.

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Oh yeah ... Kant.

Give me a break ! smile

Dude, you are right: There´s just  some german philosophers that deserve be sent to a place called "Burning Hell" ..........

Angela, I have read some parts of the Divine Comedy, but not the whole thing yet (that is something I always WANT to do in my holidays, but never really manage to do...) and I´ll look for the book by Bob Spitz ( I have read a lot of books concerning this great english band ... what´s their name again? ... ah, the Beatles wink - but not this one).

Lyn, I also often wonder how certain words can be translated - where does the word "forsooth" appear?! I have read Hamlet in original, but I guess I wouldn´t have understood a word if I didn´t read it in german first.
But I have read the "Lord of the Rings" (fantastic all-time favourite book!) in english - o.k., not quite Shakespeare, but.... wink

Three of my favourite books are:
1. Hermann Hesse - nearly every novel by him, but especially "Siddhartha" and "Der Steppenwolf"
2. J.R.R. Tolkien : "The Lord of the Rings"
3. Goethe - "Die Leiden des jungen Werther" (The sorrows of young Werther) - but that was my favourite book when I was 16 and tragically in love smile

So keep on reading ... it´s cold enough outside! smile

Eva

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Angela - so glad you're enjoying Pillars.  Out of the books he's written, this is by far my favourite.  As for Dante - I tried once to read it in the original Italian but found it hard going.

Dragster - that's an interesting list: horror (I love Stephen King too!), sci-fi and great Booker prize fiction.  How do you think King's novels have translated into films?  I thought they did a great job on the Green Mile.  But my fave King novel is It - just love that.

Eva - just about everyone in any Shakespeare play is 'forsoothing' all the time!  It's a good word and I think we should start using it again (just as soon as I work out what it means).  And as for Lord of the Rings - this is my favourite book of all time.  I first read it when I was about 13 and still have the same copy of the book.  One film (or rather 3) where justice was more than done to the written word.

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LynB wrote:

Angela - so glad you're enjoying Pillars.  Out of the books he's written, this is by far my favourite.  As for Dante - I tried once to read it in the original Italian but found it hard going.

Dragster - that's an interesting list: horror (I love Stephen King too!), sci-fi and great Booker prize fiction.  How do you think King's novels have translated into films?  I thought they did a great job on the Green Mile.  But my fave King novel is It - just love that.

Eva - just about everyone in any Shakespeare play is 'forsoothing' all the time!  It's a good word and I think we should start using it again (just as soon as I work out what it means).  And as for Lord of the Rings - this is my favourite book of all time.  I first read it when I was about 13 and still have the same copy of the book.  One film (or rather 3) where justice was more than done to the written word.

Hi LynB. I think they did a great thing with King's novels into movies. My fave has got to be Max Overdrive and Carrie, but I like the Green Mile too. If you like sci-fi, you should read The Illustrated Man by Bradbury....you'll never be the same again!!!!! smile

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eva wrote:

Oh yeah ... Kant.

Give me a break ! smile

Dude, you are right: There´s just  some german philosophers that deserve be sent to a place called "Burning Hell" ..........

Angela, I have read some parts of the Divine Comedy, but not the whole thing yet (that is something I always WANT to do in my holidays, but never really manage to do...) and I´ll look for the book by Bob Spitz ( I have read a lot of books concerning this great english band ... what´s their name again? ... ah, the Beatles wink - but not this one).

Lyn, I also often wonder how certain words can be translated - where does the word "forsooth" appear?! I have read Hamlet in original, but I guess I wouldn´t have understood a word if I didn´t read it in german first.
But I have read the "Lord of the Rings" (fantastic all-time favourite book!) in english - o.k., not quite Shakespeare, but.... wink

Three of my favourite books are:
1. Hermann Hesse - nearly every novel by him, but especially "Siddhartha" and "Der Steppenwolf"
2. J.R.R. Tolkien : "The Lord of the Rings"
3. Goethe - "Die Leiden des jungen Werther" (The sorrows of young Werther) - but that was my favourite book when I was 16 and tragically in love smile

So keep on reading ... it´s cold enough outside! smile

Eva

Eva,
Lord of the Rings is one of my favorites. I periodically go back and re-read it...maybe every 5 years or so.

I have read Kant, Satre and Dostoevsky, but that is too much like work IMO...although I enjoyed Dostoevsky's The Castle and Crime and Punishment.
I have gone back and read all the stuff I was supposed to read in High School: All the Hemingway and Steinbeck...loved them all.

Angela,
My wife is reading the Follett book right now and was telling me last night that she can't put it down, but wants to because it's so heavy! She is actually talking about splitting it into 2 and rebinding because it is so hard to hold in bed after a little while of reading.

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

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"just about everyone in any Shakespeare play is 'forsoothing' all the time!  It's a good word and I think we should start using it again (just as soon as I work out what it means)."

Forsooth - from Old and Middle English originally meant "in truth", "in fact", or "indeed". Currnet usage is "to express disbelief".

I really enjoyed teaching Shakespeares' Macbeth to my students. Most enjoyed the fighting, blood and trickery in the stroy.


Angela and anyone else looking for a good book, I have used the following book in my literature classes:

Bless Me Ultima, by Rudolfo Anaya - part of a multiculture literature unit I taught and one of my favorite books! It's about a young boy growing up in New Mexico and finding himself and his beliefs. It pulls from all different religions but is not about religion. The interesting thing about this book is that I have actually spent time and photographed in several of the small towns in this book. This book has gunfights, lust, spirits, witchcraft and more!

Another interesting thing about this book is the Legend of La Llorona, or "the weeping woman,", which reminds me a lot of the lyrics to Joe's version of "The River". La Llorona is the story of a woman who fell in love with a man and she has a baby. And then the guy takes a mistress and abandons her, flaunting the mistress as they ride in a carriage along the river, and in a fit of revenge or rage, she takes it out on the child and drowns the child. The author says, "When I was growing up, these stories were told. And [the story is] used to keep us away from danger. So if our parents would say, "Don't go near the river -- La Llorona will get you," And La Llorona lives there, because you find yourself down there alone late in the evening and you begin to hear sounds, and then you begin to hear La Llorona." Legend has it that her spirit walks the riverbanks at night calling out to her drowned child.

The River lyrics:

Down by the river...
That's where I broke down and cried
Down  by the river...
Where I could just lay down and die
I'm goin' down to the river, for long as I can stand.
Mama told me son, as she took ahold of my hand
Water runs so deep...Deep as all my pain
Down by the river, hone...Lord can I be saved?

Down by the river
That's where I broke down and cried
I said down by the river
That's where I broke down and cried
Heartache soaked in wine
I'm just looking for redemption
But the water's so unkind
Brought me to my knees
As I drowned in the pouring rain
Down by the river, honey
I still see your face

I said, sometime around midnight,
They've come knocking at my door.
I said, sometime around midnight Hellhounds found what they're looking for
Those flashin' lights tell me,
Didn't have to say a word. Someone took my baby,
Someone took away my world.
All they found was a letter I should'a never let her go
The river's the only witness
The only one who knows

And the wind whispers her name
And all those lonesome years
The water turns to whiskey I drown in my own tears
Down by the river I see my life in the flames
Down by the river, honey I call out your name, yeah I call out your name


~Rhonda

"I don't think obsessions have reasons, that's why they're obsessions....National Geographic likes their pictures in focus..." Robert Kincaid

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Bill S wrote:

Eva,
Lord of the Rings is one of my favorites. I periodically go back and re-read it...maybe every 5 years or so.

I have read Kant, Satre and Dostoevsky, but that is too much like work IMO...although I enjoyed Dostoevsky's The Castle and Crime and Punishment.
I have gone back and read all the stuff I was supposed to read in High School: All the Hemingway and Steinbeck...loved them all.

Angela,
My wife is reading the Follett book right now and was telling me last night that she can't put it down, but wants to because it's so heavy! She is actually talking about splitting it into 2 and rebinding because it is so hard to hold in bed after a little while of reading.

I read a lot of finance/investing, and history.  Especially financial histories (I think I was dropped on my head as a kid).  I've read some of the philosophers (I dig the indomitable sort of hope from hopelessness vibe that Camus gives off in The Myth of Sysiphus and Other Essays), but now I'm more into practical philosophy, like The Art of War (Sun Tzu) or The Art of Worldly Wisdom (by Baltasar Gracian).  For fun I like Robert Ludlum, Harlan Coben, and that sort of thing. 

Bill,
It sounds like your wife is a candidate for the new Kindle (wireless reading device) from Amazon.  It's only 10 ounces or so and I like that I can change the font size.  I don't have mine yet, but it's on order.

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Hey Bill,
Ask your wife how much she HATES William?  I'm looking forward to someone's revenge on him & hoping someone chops off his...Some of the mandatory high school reading seems more appreciated, now that its not mandatory.  (hope you had a nice BD smile )

Eva-I'm wondering if you read Plato's Republic?  I have to give Siddharta another look, I think I read that in high school.

Lyn-Dante is hard enough in one's primary language...to get the most out of it, I've resorted to reading others summaries and commentaries.   Components about human emotions will never change...look at how many circles of hell are in Rhonda's books?

Rhonda-Have you noticed some of the mandatory classics have dropped off in high school to satisfy agendas...not to get too controversial but some of the substitutes I've seen are not worth much on the literary end.

dragster-a girlfriend turned me onto Ray Bradbury in high school...I also enjoyed the Hobbits back then.  I thought the Green Mile was excellent as a movie, never read any Stephen King.

dude-did you ever read up on Steven Jobs?  My biggest financial mistake was listening to a financial expert when he me advised against putting money in Apple....years ago...we'd be on easy street...Do you ever watch that Donnie Deutsch (sp?) on MSNBC?  I could have invented Spanx, had the idea,  but she followed through...

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