Re: What does Joe's future hold?

Hi Jane - I guess I came down a little hard on backroad junke but he singled out Roy
as a "Joe can do no wrong fan" and I though it was uncalled for.  We had the time of
our lives going to these shows with Roy and there is not a better person anywhere.
Joe will no doubt be a superstar - I just hope he appreciates all his fans no matter
what our degree of loyalty is and has fun  - what good is stardon if you do not
have fun along the way.  Don't know if I'm saying this right either !
Jaci

Lose your dreams and you will lose your mind.  Mick Jagger

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Yes Jane I know how loyal Roy is firsthand - after I patted Joe on the behind for wearing
that Yankee jersey Roy and Ken (my husband) reemed me out like you wouldn't believe -
I honestly thought they were going to take my ticket away and make me walk 150 miles
back home. 
Jaci

Lose your dreams and you will lose your mind.  Mick Jagger

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I understand all opinions when expressed in a civil manner. I would add that if this forum is not the place for fans to gush, where is???!!! Now, when the excitement of your turn to see a show arrives, it should NOT be tempered here!! This IS the place to show your love and not be criticized for it! Roy, Patty and anyone else.....have at it! There's no shortage of opinions here...Jaci, I like your style!!!         Love to all    Cathy

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Fretwork wrote:
Rocket wrote:

I don't really care one way or another Deezer, as covers have always been a part of true blues heritage, probably moreso by far than any others, excepting Classical which is effectively all covers ( hmm ).  But I say play original OR cover, but MAKE it original. But I like the idea of more and more originals.

Rock On & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

I say keep playing both.  Bands doing covers is what has helped me to become an "archeologist of music".  It helps me to connect with the musicians before my time and appreciate where it all came from.  I'm not so sure how I would have responded to hearing Robert Johnson for the first time had I not heard Clapton and other artists do it first, but that's just me.

I agree, and that's why I said I didn't necessarily want him to stop doing covers, but to just tip the balance in favor of more originals. Like, have two covers and maybe eight originals on an album. Of course, I don't want it to be a numbers game, we can only do this many covers, but you know what I'm saying.

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As an "ardent follower" of Joe, I too, fall in to the "Joe can do no wrong" club.  And like Roy, I am just so darn proud of Joe and I truly feel it is an honor to be a fan.  And I can even tell you some of the reasons I am that way.  I listen to Joe and go to Joe concerts for the PERSONAL JOY I receive from his musical genius. I truly don't care which guitar he uses, etc.. I just love the "delivered goods."  The sounds he produces are so satisfying to my "inner child." smile  And I am like everyone else, I have my favorite songs, CD's, etc... but I don't give a 2nd thought to the setlist.  I just think it's all a big fun treat.  I am so grateful that I am in attendance. And if I ever get to hear some of my favorites LIVE then I will just be even happier.  There is a part of me that thrives on "what might be under the "setlist" Christmas tree?" 

  I have a Bachelor of Music Education degree and music has always been a big part of my life.  I was an "ardent follower" of the Beatles when I was a kid.  I had every inch of my bedroom walls covered with Beatle "stuff."  No, I don't have Joe "wallpaper" but I do have a lot of pictures and stuff in binders, etc... and I do get a kick out of looking thru them and collecting. Safe hobby smile

                     I work 2 jobs, am Mom, and homemaker.
                     I guess you could say that Joe is my "stress-free zone."

  And yes, I get the biggest kick out of talking with Joe, Bogie, Rick, and Carmine after a show. 
It is truly the "icing on the cake."  And if I don't get to, well there's always next time to look forward to.  I think they are all so unique, great senses of humor, and kind hearted.  I have said a lot of things to Joe in person, that maybe I shouldn't, but I think he "gets me" and he is such a good soul to let me, be me.  Mr. & Mrs.  B, you raised a great son. smile

  For pattyluvsjoe,  "The Thrill Isn't Gone"

"I'm not nice to any guitar!"      lol
                 Joe Bonamassa 05-03-12

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Jane H. wrote:

I don't subscribe to the theory that Joe's current success is due to changes. I am not denying the possibility but its not a given from my perspective. This is something we've talked about before so a brief summary is I have a hard time believing Joe wouldn't have similar success like he is now if he had not made as many or the same changes, musically or band. Not saying anything else really and there truly is no way to prove it, from my perspective, which is limited I admit.

I don't subscribe to that theory either....however change is a natural part of growth; lack of change can mean death, even to the most talented individuals. There are numerous examples than can be cited to support this. Jane I'm sure you can think of some right now.

Jane H. wrote:

I continue to be bewildered by some things though. Unfortunately I don't get much time to talk to Joe alot to get his real opinions and even if I did I would struggle to explain to him what I want to know. I do read the stuff here though and I get conflicting feelings about how he feels about things. I think it is obvious he is in control and knows what he wants and this is why I hesitate to say anything that might come across as giving unsolicited advice(He's a big boy you know smile ). At the same time though, many of his comments here regarding the music and set lists and such and his success come across to me as being based on opinions from others and not all completely based on his own realizations. it seesm though his opinion and realizations change and grow as they naturally should so something he said a few months ago maybe he has a different perspective on ( or maybe I misunderstood from the get-go..) and i only speak up here to offer him more viewpoint.

It'd be a huge misunderstanding to think that Joe isn't doing what he wants and is basing set lists and other decisions on opinions of others. Joe IS the boss. Certainly he appreciates all constructive fan feedback, and relies on the professionals he works with but at the end of the day Joe decides what is done and how its done. He is a strong enough personality to follow his own intuition and instinct. He may not always share what that vision is, but you can be assured he is following his own vision. Jane, I would also suggest that maybe its better to NOT have all the answers to your questions. The mystery, intrigue, anticipation, and surprise are part of the whole package.

I don't have a clear understanding why  we are always looking for what is "wrong".

David A. you are correct. You can't please them all 100% of the time, and you'd go crazy trying. Although Joe does try -- its part of his DNA.

If you are looking for an answer to the original question -- I'll say again, his future looks bright. You can expect some more things that are different going forward, and he will keep touring/recording constantly, and his popularity will continue to grow.

It's been said that history is the best predictor of the future. If that is true then based on history we already know what Joe's future holds.

An open mind will go a long way towards allowing you to enjoy things in life. Joe's music included.

As a forum friend always says:

"Rock on and keep the faith"

PC

PS - Jane that was a little shocking to be linked to a slow (not rockin) Pat Benatar song.......LOL

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For the record I never bashed Roy's character, I am sure he is a great guy. I just stated a fact that he is a Joe can do no wrong fan and criticism can be an Artists best friend. I have preformed and played guitar for 20 years and I still appreciate criticism because it helps me grow.  Someone seemed to be suprised that after 27 shows I am finaly on this forum. I never really cared for forums because alot of people just bash each other, I noticed that this forum is not like that and decided to voice my opinion, after all that is what the USA is all about.  As Miles Davis put it there is only 2 kinds of music, Good and bad. It is up to you to decide.

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The one thing we all here on the forum have come to appreciate is Joe's candid comments. He doesn't yet have the national media dissecting every comment he has made or ideas he has expressed an interest he has in persuing. He just has us.

Things have a way of evolving along the way as you travel towards a particular goal. It is nice that we hear on a consistant basis what Joe is planning. There have not been long dry spells of wonder as some many artists do when years between releases is the norm. By Joe expressing his wish to do an acoustic album and it turned into Sloe Gin.

Would we prefer to know nothing of his future plans until they come reality or be willing for him to express his wishes with the possibility circumstances change what actually happens.

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great artist's will alway's be hailed AND critisized.  i think joe is going strong and is better than ever!  he is constantly growing and evolving and improving on what he does. that is what great players do!

being #1 on the billboard blues charts for 9 week's pretty much sum's it up i think!  wink

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As long as everyone states their opinions without personal attacks, there is no reason for anyone to be offended. No reason to get fired up if someone replies to or quotes your post. It's just someone stating another opinion. No harm, no foul. Doesn't matter if it is the original poster, or another forum mate.

Moody tells me I'm full of crap all the time, and we are still friends. Part of being a friend.

PC

“A friend is someone that will help you move............a TRUE friend will help you move the bodies." -- anon

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Being a Bonabuddy means never having to say you're sorry right Phil, Jane and all others who might have differing opinions on this subject.

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Well, its the middle of the night, and I am in a hotel in the lovely state of Arkansas.  No one should be here, aside from those who work at Clinton's library.  Dear God. We can be okay at 49 states.  That, and two red bulls, and suddenly I am going to spout my educated guess here.

I am sorry in advance.  I can't tell if this is what I want to happen, or what I think will happen.  No, its what I think will happen.  Because what I want to happen is for Joe to play over driven guitars at the loudest possible volume, with that drummer, and that bass player playing hound dog taylor tunes on meth.  Giant fast anthemic blues numbers, raw songs about girls, how we hate our dads, how the world has done us wrong, playing cards and losing to a red headed woman, and cars.  Chunky guitars.

So heres what I think is going to happen...

We have heard about the round the world project.  So I think Joe is going to disappear from the American scene for about a year.  Hit the aiport, and travel the world recording whatever it is he is going to record.  More than that, the young man who has worked for the better part of 20 years in music, is going to travel.  Breath a little deeper, a little slower.  I think that during this time he might kiss a girl, maybe that gets a little more serious.  But that is just a fun little ditty.

During this time, him and his partners sign three acts, and with Crosby that makes four.  I think J and R spend the year, more R really, managing the breaking of these artists.  I think they face the challenges of using the old model, the old business idea on how to break an artist.  They face some hurdles, and maybe falter.  Sometime they hear about the new business model, and maybe bring in a new marketing cat with some new ideas.  The existing team then gets recharged, and greater success comes to these artists.

Bonamassa returns from his time away, late 2008.  Goes in the studio, spends the rest of the year going through the recordings, realizes its all amazing, and mixes down a double record.  Puts together a holiday release date, and a tour of America. 

While abroad though, Bonamassa meets so many great musicians that he wants to do a Paul Simon Lady Smith Black Mombazo thing.  The business allows him to have a little room financially, and as a result brings back an all star world band blues band.

The record is finally a giant crossover.  It moves the guitar hero from Guitar Player magazine to Rolling Stone and Spin.

The winter tour of America plays to 1500 seaters, by the end of the tour offers have come in to play 5000 seater in college markets.    Early 2009 Joe breaks onto Leno and Letterman, and Conan. 

Bonamassa has a choice, a crossroads.  Go for the larger stages, take that risk, or stay in PAC's. 

Thats my fantasy.

I think the interesting thing is this...Bonamassa has done this without a lot of overt bridges being built to anyone.  For example his notoriety should have put him onstage at Crossroads in both Texas and Chicago.  I would assume that Joe knows warren haynes, and the resst of that crew.  Bonamassa has not played Bonaroo, or Lollapalooza, or any of the larger festivals that I can think of.  Bonamassa tours like a cowboy alone on the range.

It truly is an interesting story to watch.

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Dino,

You got all that from just two Red Bulls? ROFL big_smile

I liked everything you said except the going away for a year part. That's the thing I fear most (except spiders. I'm scared of them too). That Joe will decide to knock off touring for a while so he can live life, explore, record, whatever. But I'm not going to die if that happens so it's all good.

I'm just saying.

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Dino wrote:

Well, its the middle of the night, and I am in a hotel in the lovely state of Arkansas.  No one should be here, aside from those who work at Clinton's library.  Dear God. We can be okay at 49 states.

Dude, don't down Arkansas. It's been said it's the only state that can survive if each state were divided up into different countries and cut off from each other. I love my state.

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Deezer wrote:
Dino wrote:

Well, its the middle of the night, and I am in a hotel in the lovely state of Arkansas.  No one should be here, aside from those who work at Clinton's library.  Dear God. We can be okay at 49 states.

Dude, don't down Arkansas. It's been said it's the only state that can survive if each state were divided up into different countries and cut off from each other. I love my state.

I don't know about that Deezer, California certainly could survive as an independent country, more or less does.  But I do know Arkansas is a lovely place with fine people and more.

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Stu Craig wrote:

I'm not sure what the future holds, other than it's going to be an enjoyable ride. Joe had to drag me along for a while - almost kicking and screaming - as he transitioned from Strat to Gibson, and from the old power trio to the new 4 piece. Once I quit fighting with myself though, I was able to reconnect on an emotional level with Joe's music. It's easy to let personal preferences and expectations get in the way sometimes.

My favorite Zep albums are I and II - but had they not progressed, Zep would have never recorded IV and Physical Graffitti. I'm sure there were lots of diehard Zep fans who felt the way you do now. Thanks goodness they didn't listen!

The one thing that Joe has consistently shown me is that he will continue to grow and change. Every record has been different, and each CD documents but one step down a long road to a destination unknown. Let's enjoy the journey.

Zeppelin never cared what the press thought or the lame radio stations. They always did what they wanted and had a decade of the best music ever. When I first heard about Joe and started listening and learning about him, he reminded me of the mighty Zep. I could not believe the power and charisma of this music was not on every rock radio station in the world, but I should not of been suprised, radio is pititful. The radio did not play Zep when the stuff originally came out, it did not come on the radio untill years later when classic rock radio formats came into play. Zep earned their fans 1 at a time, by touring and putting out great albums. JB has done the same thing, and I want him to keep on keeping on. The show at Shank Hall last year pratically brought me to tears of joy. I felt like I was seeing Zep,SRV,Clapton,Rory G, Hendrix all at their prime at the same F@#& time.  I was witnesing Rock and Roll History, I have a recording of that preformance and I listen to it at least once a week. There are many great bands and artists but only a select few are the real deal and unique and in my opinion Joe stands proud side by side with the artist I mentioned. I want him to remain there. I used to see SRV with my brother every summer for 5 years untill I saw his last show at Alpine Valey(the saddest day of my life, from a music prespective) I have not had anyone fill that void untill Joe's music came into my life.
Some people think Joe was better with his first power trio but I belleve Joe can be truly amazing with any band as long as they are tight. (Any great guitar palyer knows they owe alot of their success to their rythm section). At the end of the day it is up to Joe on how he will be precieved by the fans all over the World. By the way,  ZEPPELIN III RULES