Topic: Agile AL2000 Review

Okay here is the deal…
I’m not big on cheap Les Paul imitations, but I have to share this with you guys.
The other day, I stumbled upon the YouTube link below at Willseasyguitar.com.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZpVp4_oHu0

He reviews the Agile AL2000 Les Paul copy at $225.00 + shipping (under $250.00 at Amazon).

I’ve found that the old adage that you get what you pay for is true. No one in his or her right mind would think you could get a quality guitar for that amount of money. Right?
Well, I ordered one (Blue Flame) thinking that I could use it as a dedicated slide guitar if it wasn’t up to spec.

I got it yesterday and boy was I surprised!

I removed it from the box and the first thing I noticed was the weight (a little under 10 lbs.). Very much like the weight of a Les Paul.
I took a magnifying glass and went over it inch by inch. The finish and blue dye job were impeccable with one exception. There was one tiny spot where the back and the binding come together that is a touch lighter blue than the rest of the field. If I were in a store with several options to choose from, I would have selected another guitar. For $225.00 I didn’t feel it was a big enough problem to send it back. Most folks probably wouldn’t notice unless you were being really picky like me.

In the video above, Will mentions that the trapezoid pearloid inlays on his guitar were not quite flush with the Rosewood fingerboard. This was not the case with my guitar. Everything was perfectly flush.

I checked other reviews on the web before buying and the only negative one I found was on mylespaul.com. It was a valid complaint, but probably an isolated incident.

If you go to the website below and type in Agile AL2000 in the search box it will give you all the options plus specs. I did a search on the stock Grover tuners (18:1) and found them to sell at most places for around $50.00.

I compared this to my Les Paul Deluxe and it was spot on in quality, craftsmanship and materials. The only other area that wasn’t up to my specs was the electronics. I’ve never been a fan of ceramic magnets, but I have to tell you that this thing sounds great right out of the box. It was very warm (rhythm) and crunchy (treble). I’m sure sometime in the future I will replace the pickups with SD vintage pups, but I’m in no hurry since it sounds so good as is.

I don’t work for this company or receive any monetary benefit from this review. I bought this on a lark with no expectations that it would be as good as it is. All I can tell you is that I didn’t need another guitar and bought this because of the price. I don’t know how they are able to sell this guitar for the ridiculous price of $225.00. I can’t figure it out. It is a complete and total conundrum to me.

I did read that the guitar is manufactured in South Korea at the same factory that PRS uses for their import line. Can’t confirm that as being gospel, but the quality is top notch.

Check out the link below. If you are a gambling guy or gal, give them a shot. I don’t think you will be disappointed! Make sure you watch the YouTube review above to get an in depth review from a talented luthier.
http://www.rondomusic.com/product6797.html

Happy Riffing!
Lim

“You’ve gotta riff like your mojo’s magic…
Let your fingers fly like lightning unleashed…
Make your notes scream with the unbridled passion of a soul on fire…
And boogie like the Thunder of the Gods!”  LP 1974

Re: Agile AL2000 Review

There's a whole subculture of people who refuse to buy Gibsons, and enjoy finding gem LP copies. Agile comes up a lot in conversation. Korea is getting better and better at making guitars because they've been doing it for a few decades now.

It's true you'll be a gambling guy or gal. In that for every good one there might be 9 or 10 bad ones you'd need to go through. Getting one in the mail and not playing it in person is the gamble.

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I checked in to Rondo a long time ago.. and since I already had a LP Clone I didn't need another

here is the speck sheet
http://www.rondomusic.com/alspec.html

they're listing the top as only 1/16" thick which would make it a vainer top

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Re: Agile AL2000 Review

Hey Guys,
When I was a teenager in the 70’s, Rondo was considered the bargain basement of the guitar world. No one in their right mind would consider anything they had to offer as legit. It was Fender…Gibson or nothing. I subscribed to that theory when I bought my first guitar which was a ’64 Fender Mustang (I wish I still had that battle axe!) Times change and companies change as well.

My Agile AL2000 is not a Les Paul. It is a Les Paul style guitar. That being said, the one I received is one hell of a guitar for the money. It could easily be my number 1 guitar for  gigs.

Why?

It sounds great, looks great and plays awesome! As I stated above, I’m not a big fan of ceramic magnets in pickups. But I love the tone of this guitar. I have no plans of changing pickups in the near future. It simply KILLS!

I giged with it last night and I couldn’t believe the tone. It blew me away. I never expected anything like this from a $225.00 guitar. Never!

I don’t know if I was lucky or Rondo has raised the bar on their quality. All I know is the guitar I received from an online purchase is one of the best I’ve owned.

And lets be real, if Rondo can offer a guitar of this quality for under $250.00, how much is the man jacking up the prices for their  Epiphone LP’s and Gibson LP’s?

I have a Les Paul Deluxe and this guitar is totally comparable in quality and craftsmanship. It totally blows away my 93’ Night Hawk First Edition on so many levels.

When people make statements that you get one good one out of 9 or 10, I want to know their first hand experience and not their opinion. You know what they say about opinions. It is true. Everybody thinks they are an expert.

To be honest, I couldn’t give a rat’s **** how thick the maple cap is on my guitar. I only care that it sounds and plays great. My Agile AL2000 does. I couldn’t be happier.

If you think about it, every boutique guitar maker skirts the original specs of a Gibson Les Paul. They have to or face a years of legal battles. All that matters is that they turn out a good instrument.

Come on guys! The man is pushing crap at inflated prices! We are the end users and with the advent of CNC technology we should be demanding that prices come down, not go up! The savings to the manufacture is huge, but we don’t see it. Let your voice be heard!!!

I couldn’t give a tinker’s damn if you buy an Agile AL2000 or not. My point is that I am a very picky consumer and I think the one I got is KILLER! I lucked into this deal based on research. Do your homework and make the best decision that works for you and let the major players hear your voice. At the end of the day, you have to be okay with the decision you made.

But lets face it, how can you go wrong with a guitar for less than $250.00 including shipping?

I rest my case.
Lim

“You’ve gotta riff like your mojo’s magic…
Let your fingers fly like lightning unleashed…
Make your notes scream with the unbridled passion of a soul on fire…
And boogie like the Thunder of the Gods!”  LP 1974

5 (edited by NPB_EST.1979 2015-06-18 09:31:49)

Re: Agile AL2000 Review

limbop wrote:

And lets be real, if Rondo can offer a guitar of this quality for under $250.00, how much is the man jacking up the prices for their  Epiphone LP’s and Gibson LP’s?

$250 these days can get you a great guitar... from Korea, China, or Indonesia. There's some diamonds in the rough.
Epiphones will be more expensive cause of the brand, and the designs... possibly even the korean factories.

Gibsons will always be quadruple the price because American hands are making them (+$), plus the factory is in Nashville, where facility upkeep will be more expensive, the hardware used (pickups, bridge, tuners, etc.) are more expensive than anything made in Korea. The Plek system used also adds a few hundred to the cost since that's what it is to get your guitar Plek'd. So that's where I'm guessing the money goes. That said, there's the opposite of the diamond in the rough extreme... most should be good, but you might get a lemon.

Korean make guitars... their wood looks "funny"... I can't explain it. Look at the mahogany grain on the back of an epi les paul, and you'll see what I mean. But Epiphone mahogany looks extremely different than Gibson mahogany. I think it's getting to the point where companies are using something else and are afraid to say so because of "traditions."

I've had korean guitars like JayTurser and they were great, once you get rid of all the hardware, replace the electronics, do a fret level, and that's if you can get past the insanely thick finish that asian companies spray their poly on their guitars.

Apples and oranges.

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Here is my point.
The world is changing. Technology is becoming more affordable and it is hard for Fender and Gibson to compete.

I spent over 25 years in the film/TV biz and I will use an analogy that I hope will support my point.

When I first got into the business, CBS,NBC, and ABC cornered the market by a huge amount.
Fast forward to today and look at where they are. The best dramas are on networks like HBO, USA, TNT, and others.

The established 3 lost their way and are relegated to inexpensive reality shows and comedies. Don’t get me wrong, some of them are pretty entertaining, but they have lost huge market share because they had to go to go to a cheaper product due to their outdated way of doing business.
The overall end result is crap and their market share continues to erode. They just don’t get it at all.

At the same time, the upstart networks figured out ways to produce and present great content that rivals anything the big 3 could create.

We have an entire generation coming up that has very little loyalty to the big 3. Again, their market share continues to erode year after year and they seem at a loss as to what to do about the problem.

As technology becomes more affordable, we are going to see the quality gap decrease and we will no longer be dependent on the major manufacturers for the best product. Change is hard and no where is it more visible than in established companies.

Take a look at the current issue of Guitar Aficionado magazine and you will see boutique companies that didn’t exist 10 minutes ago. Almost all of them are creating guitars that far surpass the quality available at the local Guitar Center.
The sad news is that many of these companies will be gone by this time next year.

Why?

Because almost anyone can afford CNC technology today. Don’t be surprised if the teenager next door buys the gear, sets it up in his parents basement and starts cranking out a product that is superior in quality, playability and at a price that blows doors on anything Fender and Gibson could touch while he is still enrolled in Driver’s Ed at his high school. Yikes!

It is going to happen. History proves it.
Look at the print business for example. Most of you probably don’t remember a time when a typesetter had to place tiny steel letters on a form in order to get you a flyer or invitation. Where are the typesetters today?

The same thing happened with desktop video editing when Apple introduced Final Cut Pro. Anyone who could afford it instantly became a video/film producer. Sure the product was crap at first, but they figured it out pretty quick. When this happened my price for services dropped by a third and went down from there. My clients weren’t mom and pop shops, but the big 3 and the upstart networks. See, they do figure out some things in their favor.

It maybe hard for you to consider buying a guitar that doesn’t have Fender or Gibson on the headstock. I know it is for me, but I’ve been down this road with other industries and I will be damned if I will go down the lane again not having learned my lesson prior.

Please comment and let me know if you think I’m full of crap or have other ideas to share. This kind of discussion can only make our art and the instruments we play better.

Have a great weekend!!
Lim

“You’ve gotta riff like your mojo’s magic…
Let your fingers fly like lightning unleashed…
Make your notes scream with the unbridled passion of a soul on fire…
And boogie like the Thunder of the Gods!”  LP 1974

Re: Agile AL2000 Review

limbop wrote:

Take a look at the current issue of Guitar Aficionado magazine and you will see boutique companies that didn’t exist 10 minutes ago. Almost all of them are creating guitars that far surpass the quality available at the local Guitar Center.
The sad news is that many of these companies will be gone by this time next year.

Well said. Some would argue the boutique companies have always been there. But with what you said on technology, it's MUCH easier for them to get their name out there via internet, etc. Same can be said with the more reputable korean guitar factories, word of their quality spreads to other companies... next thing you know MusicMan, ESP, PRS and Taylor are getting guitars made overseas.

I can't remember the last time Fender made an acoustic in the USA. The Cort factory makes all the Fender acoustics.

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Re: Agile AL2000 Review

Easy to envision making them in your garage cheap. Not so easy to comply with regulations once you try and do it by the rules and find out how many govt. agencies have their hand out for your cash, especially in the USA.

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