Topic: Joe's Voice

Just checked out the Miles Of Music with 21 year old Joe. This is the raspy bluesier voice with great guitar playing that drew my wife & I to become fans way back when. We sure do miss that voice. Although I do like Joe's present voice, I do prefer the old one.

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Too me it sounds forced on the old recordings.

But it's said he was having vocal cord issues. And had to retrain his voice or loose it.

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(If only I had 1% of Joe's guitar talent)

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I think Joe's voice sounds sooo much better now. On the old recordings he really sounds like he is straining at times. Would love to hear him do a song from back then like "Reconsider Baby" now because I think the whole thing would sound so amazing with the improved vocals. His voice would now be on par with the phenomenal guitar playing in that song.

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+1 on Reconsider baby...my desert island song right there

nmagcorn wrote:

I think Joe's voice sounds sooo much better now. On the old recordings he really sounds like he is straining at times. Would love to hear him do a song from back then like "Reconsider Baby" now because I think the whole thing would sound so amazing with the improved vocals. His voice would now be on par with the phenomenal guitar playing in that song.

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nmagcorn wrote:

I think Joe's voice sounds sooo much better now. On the old recordings he really sounds like he is straining at times. Would love to hear him do a song from back then like "Reconsider Baby" now because I think the whole thing would sound so amazing with the improved vocals. His voice would now be on par with the phenomenal guitar playing in that song.

I completely agree.  I've had the exact same thought about re-doing the old albums with his improved and beautiful voice and his new sound.

Edit:  Think "Blues Deluxe album with new vocals and horns"

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Everybody is entitled to their own taste, but I'm another "voice is better now" vote. Many long time fans have commented on the progress of his vocal abilities. He's always had the guitar skills, but his vocal skills have warranted comments over the years. Joe has even said he couldn't have done the acoustic shows without vocal training. I'll add that I am a huge fan of the "woo hoo's" and hope there are more in the future smile

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cathysiler wrote:

Everybody is entitled to their own taste, but I'm another "voice is better now" vote. Many long time fans have commented on the progress of his vocal abilities. He's always had the guitar skills, but his vocal skills have warranted comments over the years. Joe has even said he couldn't have done the acoustic shows without vocal training. I'll add that I am a huge fan of the "woo hoo's" and hope there are more in the future smile

Sorry everyone, just my opinion. Not trying to be negative.

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Hombre wrote:
cathysiler wrote:

Everybody is entitled to their own taste, but I'm another "voice is better now" vote. Many long time fans have commented on the progress of his vocal abilities. He's always had the guitar skills, but his vocal skills have warranted comments over the years. Joe has even said he couldn't have done the acoustic shows without vocal training. I'll add that I am a huge fan of the "woo hoo's" and hope there are more in the future smile

Sorry everyone, just my opinion. Not trying to be negative.

It was raspier back in the day and I thought more fitting to blues rock. It was a good voice for what he was doing at the time however he would not be singing today without making the changes to how he sang. I only really notice it when I go to the back catalog and realize how much it has changed. I believe he has worked as hard on his voice as he worked playing the guitar. As Malcolm Gladwell would say. 10,000 hrs of practice to hone the skill. He just worked on the guitar skills first. His voice is now more versatile being able to sing the blues and his own material and more importantly the 100 plus shows a year.

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I agree that Joe's voice is much improved and I prefer it to yesteryear.
That said, I'd never want him to go back and re-do previous albums like Blues Deluxe.
That voice fit that album at that time and is part of Joe's history.
However, if Joe wanted to add Reconsider Baby to the current setlist, there would be ZERO complaints from me!

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

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Bill S wrote:

I agree that Joe's voice is much improved and I prefer it to yesteryear.
That said, I'd never want him to go back and re-do previous albums like Blues Deluxe.
That voice fit that album at that time and is part of Joe's history.
However, if Joe wanted to add Reconsider Baby to the current setlist, there would be ZERO complaints from me!

Thanks, that was my point. I guess I just didn't express myself very well. That being said I'll probably ruffle a few more feathers by saying I think the old music was a lot bluesier and more to my taste.

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Hombre.. I didn't read any 'feathers ruffled" by your posts..
as for the older music bluesier.. well it's been posted a few times that some people like the 'older' catalog more.

Me..
I listen to the whole catalog,, I shy away a lot from Had to Cry Today CD .. too country sounding for me, but I love When She Dances and Junction61-Reconsider Baby..

I for one want a remake of Pain and Sorrow.

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(If only I had 1% of Joe's guitar talent)

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DougH wrote:

Hombre.. I didn't read any 'feathers ruffled" by your posts..
as for the older music bluesier.. well it's been posted a few times that some people like the 'older' catalog more.

Me..
I listen to the whole catalog,, I shy away a lot from Had to Cry Today CD .. too country sounding for me, but I love When She Dances and Junction61-Reconsider Baby..

I for one want a remake of Pain and Sorrow.

The ruffled feathers was mean't tongue in cheek. As far as everything else I couldn't agree with you more.

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Thanks Jane, I knew that you would understand what I was trying to say.

Jane H. wrote:
Hombre wrote:
Bill S wrote:

I agree that Joe's voice is much improved and I prefer it to yesteryear.
That said, I'd never want him to go back and re-do previous albums like Blues Deluxe.
That voice fit that album at that time and is part of Joe's history.
However, if Joe wanted to add Reconsider Baby to the current setlist, there would be ZERO complaints from me!

Thanks, that was my point. I guess I just didn't express myself very well. That being said I'll probably ruffle a few more feathers by saying I think the old music was a lot bluesier and more to my taste.

nah you said it OK i think and i agree its a matter of opinion

i would agree with this except could care less about redoing reconsider. unless Joe wanted to of course....
but certainly not in favor of a joeriginal or a fresh cover but hey that is just my opinion!

its funny that you posted this hombre because just the other day I was thinking something similar. I am not going to say i prefer Joe's voice then overall but i got to thinking about it because whatever i was listening to at the time - oh yeah it was tour de force borderline - his voice and being so improved was quite noticeable. but at the same time i though how much i truly loved it before and yes was part of what attracted me to the music

since i was listening to TDF-B I will comment on the Pain and Sorrow thing, as I mentioned in other threads i did very much enjoy the TDF_Borderline version for its outstanding qualities along with the plain fact he brought it out for that show but in no way do i think it would be OK to re-do it for any official release, unless of course there were to be some sort of reunion show with Kenny and Eric (not wishing for that) and they finally got it captured live for a dvd - because as you may know i felt it completely unreasonable to have had it left off of the Rockpalast set list, wow was that wrong although i am sure it was all about logistics, i understand but IMHO it would be just so wrong to bring it back out again and to re-work it. please, just write another song.....
not that i doubt Joe could do a lot with it, it just would not be right to me. nor would it have any reasonable chance at being better. lets leave that on alone please wink
but it would be OK to throw an audience recorded version(pre2006) as an extra or something on a dvd.
of course it does not surprise me to have such a different opinion (all it is) than someone who favors When She Dances over the bulk of HTCT.....different strokes for different folks.....

anyway back to the original topic yea hombre i know what you are saying
its different
when I saw Lizzee's topic about Paladia for a second i thought she was saying that they were going to play all of Joe's live shows rather than the night was to be of all  Joe live shows.
I think it would give us some very good market research if we could get the feedback from paladia viewers if they had the chance to experience Joe via ANDY live and Rockpalast in addition to the other stuff. just would be interesting but as we all know, you simply can not know the unknown so we leave it unknown and don't throw it into the equation without clearly being aware of its unknowingness

I think it was a good point Doug made about the physical limitations etc and wear and tear on Joe's ability to sing

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There's is no doubt Joes voice has improved quite a bit.
On the other hand I never felt like it detracted from his earlier works either.
I'm not sure of his earlier vocals were more strained because he was trying to shed his acent from his homeland, Australia!

Your rock candy baby
Your hard sweet and sticky

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gary wrote:

There's is no doubt Joes voice has improved quite a bit.
On the other hand I never felt like it detracted from his earlier works either.
I'm not sure of his earlier vocals were more strained because he was trying to shed his acent from his homeland, Australia!

Oh great, now we will be trying to kill that rumor for the next 6 months.  Geesh!!!:)

The only thing we deserve, is an opportunity.  Everything else has to be earned.

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gary wrote:

There's is no doubt Joes voice has improved quite a bit.
On the other hand I never felt like it detracted from his earlier works either.
I'm not sure of his earlier vocals were more strained because he was trying to shed his acent from his homeland, Australia!

I tried (& failed) to subtly photoshop a kangaroo into the background of one of Joe's photos today just to have fun the with Australia comments.  Good to see Gary was feeling equally mischievous.

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bobkatmsu wrote:
gary wrote:

There's is no doubt Joes voice has improved quite a bit.
On the other hand I never felt like it detracted from his earlier works either.
I'm not sure of his earlier vocals were more strained because he was trying to shed his acent from his homeland, Australia!

Oh great, now we will be trying to kill that rumor for the next 6 months.  Geesh!!!:)

Please don't blame me if Joe is on the cover of The National Enquirer on this one!

Your rock candy baby
Your hard sweet and sticky

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I think I'm in the camp of...Joe's voice is better now, but it's always been just fine with me since ANDY...

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