San Antonio show (Page 2 of 3)

And I have no idea why you don't understand.  So comprehension is off the table.
...unless of course you actually read what I wrote earlier.  If you are IN ATTENDANCE, show a backbone and register the complaint to the SOURCE.  Who knows, maybe adults can disagree or have a real conversation, perhaps even be open to humor, as in HUMORING or being HUMORED in civil manner???!!! I say it is possible.  Maybe something unknown could enlighten the other party???!!!  I say it is possible and should be a
Good Faith First Step.  Then and there, on the spot, scene of the whine...

"He still doesn't charge for mistakes! "
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"Everybody wants ta get inta the act!"
“Now, this isn’t your ordinary party crowd, here.  I mean, there are professionals in here.”

And I have expressed that opinion.  I spoke with 3 people checking out of the hotel Sunday morning and all said the same thing, the band played over the vocals.  That is not opinion, it is a fact.  And that fact equates to a crappy production.

I like Taco's-just saying. This may not be the right thread for my opinion but I want it to be known. Here's to hoping everyone can just relax and laugh!!!

Well I said I would report back after the show last night. OKC Chesapeake Arena. Half house cut arena with the nose bleeds draped. Never known as a great room for music this made it a good room for fan and band.

Acoustic crisp clear and full. Joe's voice was in fine form the mix was perfect. Loud enough to fill the room. Lights were tastefully done.

Electric set was a little light on the low end and the drums could of been louder over all although the percussion was right up front in the mix. Keyboards were a bit muddy but in the mix but not up front except when featured. The guitar was big and fat and just as good a guitar tone I have ever heard. Joe's vocals were as good and strong as I have heard them although on 3 or 4 occasions they got washed out by the band. Overall volume would of been considered loud in smaller room but a good loud in the arena.

Lighting was a great added only the right amount of effects. Slow train was the only bright lights in the audience sorry buddy but that is part of the song.

So if that volume was in a historic theater it may of been too loud because of the acoustics of the hall. Most theaters have sound restrictions for SPL allowed.

last night the SPL was 84 db average with occasion peaks of 98 db which is again loud but not too loud. No complaints from anybody I spoke to after show. and the feedback from the crowd on Facebook was it was awesome. Not everybody is a sound critic that attends the shows I want the shows to sound the best they can and out of over 100 shows I have seen Joe perform I have heard 10 or so perfect shows. Was the sound last night perfect? No. Was it a distraction from the performance? No. Could it have been better? Yes. Could I have personally done better? No. Would another engineer mixed it differently? Yes but I believe no two engineers mix any band the same. I believe you take the stage sound and make it bigger and fuller and keep the vocals on top at all times. Whether that is to pull the band back or gas the vocals when they get buried by the dynamics of the band is a question. That has been the only constant complaint that has been expressed here. That is the only constant complaint I would say I have had. I come to hear Joe's guitar and hear him sing his songs. That is where I would start and if the band is down a bit then that would be OK but part of the problem I see is Joe's guitar when he is playing chords is full and loud and in the same range as his vocals when he is singing over the louder portions of the songs. That happened in four songs over the entire night and only a couple of times in each song so really we are getting a bit ticky tacky if that is considered the worst produced sound of any concert you have ever been to.

Sound is subjective... Two people sitting next to each other can have opinions that range 180 degrees of one another.  It is a thankless job. I will mention the concerns and views expressed here today. 

It's like the three bears and the porridge. 

One says: it's too loud
Two: says its too soft
Three says its just right

Oh by the way it's not three bears... Just one bear attending a Joe Bonamassa concert listening to three songs.

PS: the bear's friend didn't like lights or the parking situation either .

That's funny Jon!!!

Yeah, no sense in trying. I've seen plenty of posts that are just antagonistic, cryptic B.S.. Nobody is allowed to post anything he doesn't agree with without facing a nonsensical rant of some sort.

That being said, I agree, nothing wrong with respectfully voicing your opinion. I have no problem paying the $ for Joe's concerts. He deserves to reap all of the rewards for his work and music. I saw no disrespect to Joe, only the sound crew, wherever they may be from. It's hard to tell what's going on out there from on stage, so, sometimes some constructive criticism, directed toward the right place, by the people that pay to see it, doesn't hurt.

It is subjective, and you can't please 100% of the people. I have seen Joe at least a dozen times, and there have been times where the vocal and house mix was better than others. Has nothing to do with Joe, IMO. I've never played RAH, but I have played enough live gigs to know stage mix is totally different than what goes on out front, and input can be helpful in getting it right.

My thoughts exactly. Sometimes this forum gets boring because the "bad" opinions get dismissed and all I see all day are "Joe you're awesome" posts. OF COURSE we all agree Joe is awesome, he's my favorite guitar player currently, but I hate unconditional fans who say yes to everything and who doesn't give a proper critical point of view.

Just like the "least favorite song" thread. I know Joe reads the forum occassionaly, but that doesn't mean he'd be insulted if we didn't like a song or say that the production on a show was bad.

He played twice in Buenos Aires, on different venues. The first one I was in front row and the sound was superb. However, the second time, sound was really bad, and I had a seat right next to the sound engineer who was operating the console, so it should have been the place where you could listen to better. HOWEVER , that venue where he played the 2nd time for me has always been bad sound experiences since I've seen there John Fogerty too and the sound sucked. On Joe's show, all I could hear were guitar,vocals and drums and the guitar louder than everything (more than it should be)

Most people don't really pay attention to the sound quality unless something SERIOUSLY wrong happends, so I wouldn't call BS on the guy-who-made-this-thread's opinion, just because a lot of people thought that it was great.