New 'Supergroup' - 3 ex Joe members? (Page 2 of 3)

jim m wrote:

bibi wrote:

About Ryan: He's not a Joe clone. He's got the same vibe around him as Joe had back in the days and WOW the guy can play!!! But he certainly deserves a carreer on his own without always being compared to Joe. Don't know if what's suggested here would be wise for him.
Ryan doesn't need to ride on Joes legacy, he's got talent of his own.

I threw Ryan out there because he has traction in Europe that Zakk Knight doesn't. Zakk Knight would be only riding on the reputations of Joe's former band mates. Now as far as Joe comparisons go Ryan is much more influenced by Joe than Zakk Knight in my opinion,, however I don't suggest he do something with Joe's former players as a Joe clone or tribute band I just think he benefits by having the caliber of players Rick, Eric, and Bogie are and what they would bring his show. They would take it to a level that he hasn't obtained with any of the bands I have seen him with. Yes Ryan is a player and talented but I say if he wasn't exposed to Joe's fanbase he wouldn't of had the success in Europe he has. There are many people that would love to ride on Joe's legacy and it certainly doesn't hurt to have Joe paving the way and giving him credibility as an artist.

I first saw Joe when he was 25 and Ryan is around that age I believe. I have promoted Ryan here over the last couple of years and he will be back at the end of the month. Ryan may be a talented guitarist but is he the next Joe Bonamassa? Not with out making some drastic changes to his band and set list in my opinion. He is doing much better in Europe than here. It is much harder to break here and my little town is a tough sell. I managed to do 500 paid in 2003 with Joe, Kenny and Eric and we did that for several years. He finally doubled that in 2010 and doubled again in 2012 I expect nearly doubling again in 2014. Ryan would need to do 10 times what he does currently to match Joe's audience the 3rd time in. He needs to do something. I would start with changing the band up and that would be a band that could truly make a difference in Ryan's show. It is missing something.

??? A shut mouth catches no flies !!!

Couldn't disagree more with most of the thoughts.
I'm with Bibi: Ryan doesn't need to ride on Joes legacy.

Ryan needs no old Joe band members. He's on a good way to do his own unique think … with Logan "Animal" Miles Nix on drums and someone of his age on bass …

Would be nice to see some of Joe's old band members on the road … but couldn't we just wait until it happens without those wild speculations!!!

Blues Sissi wrote:

jim m wrote:

I threw Ryan out there because he has traction in Europe that Zakk Knight doesn't. Zakk Knight would be only riding on the reputations of Joe's former band mates. Now as far as Joe comparisons go Ryan is much more influenced by Joe than Zakk Knight in my opinion,, however I don't suggest he do something with Joe's former players as a Joe clone or tribute band I just think he benefits by having the caliber of players Rick, Eric, and Bogie are and what they would bring his show. They would take it to a level that he hasn't obtained with any of the bands I have seen him with. Yes Ryan is a player and talented but I say if he wasn't exposed to Joe's fanbase he wouldn't of had the success in Europe he has. There are many people that would love to ride on Joe's legacy and it certainly doesn't hurt to have Joe paving the way and giving him credibility as an artist.

I first saw Joe when he was 25 and Ryan is around that age I believe. I have promoted Ryan here over the last couple of years and he will be back at the end of the month. Ryan may be a talented guitarist but is he the next Joe Bonamassa? Not with out making some drastic changes to his band and set list in my opinion. He is doing much better in Europe than here. It is much harder to break here and my little town is a tough sell. I managed to do 500 paid in 2003 with Joe, Kenny and Eric and we did that for several years. He finally doubled that in 2010 and doubled again in 2012 I expect nearly doubling again in 2014. Ryan would need to do 10 times what he does currently to match Joe's audience the 3rd time in. He needs to do something. I would start with changing the band up and that would be a band that could truly make a difference in Ryan's show. It is missing something.

??? A shut mouth catches no flies !!!

Couldn't disagree more with most of the thoughts.
I'm with Bibi: Ryan doesn't need to ride on Joes legacy.

Ryan needs no old Joe band members. He's on a good way to do his own unique think … with Logan "Animal" Miles Nix on drums and someone of his age on bass …

Would be nice to see some of Joe's old band members on the road … but couldn't we just wait until it happens without those wild speculations!!!

Well this forum is a place for honest opinion and that is just my honest opinion. You may disagree with it and that is OK. If Ryan were to ask me I would give him my honest opinion. I agree with you that a band his own age would be more desirable.

Ryan has some of the same qualities Joe has that are required for success in the world of blues rock guitar or any profession for that matter. One is his talent, ambition and drive are what has brought him to where he is today. The difference is he is doing it all himself here. He doesn't have a Roy or a booking agent and he doesn't have a solid band and true his current drummer is the best he has had so far. He needs a bass player evidently. I'm just saying he needs a consistent band with talent to match his. He needs songs that not only fit his voice but have an impact on the audience in a more consistent manner. In my opinion if you can't take over a room with three songs and I mean any three songs in your set then you will have a tough time grabbing that audience. That is the main difference I see with Joe and Ryan at this point in his career. Ryan has those three songs but he doesn't have twelve or fifteen. 

Ryan is a great guy and their isn't anybody that would like to see him be successful than me and he has had some great success in Europe. Even he will admit the US is a tougher nut to crack in the genre' he is identifying with. His connection to Joe here and there has helped him. Even he would admit that. He needs a band that can keep up with him. Whether it is Joe's ex band members or not. Ryan however is appealing to the same demographic as Joe and if he wants to appeal to that younger audience in the same way Gary Clark Jr is then he needs hip songs and a hip band. I'm just trying to help him in the way I try to help all the bands I like and promote. We haven't had the chance to sit down and talk about it yet but I would guess if we did he would value my opinion.

since we are already quite off topic I will add i can't help but mention i wish nobody ever suggested that Davy Knowles go a different route than what Back Door Slam was doing back in '08

anyway best of luck to Zakk's new venture. I hadn't heard anything but given what has been posted here it looks like it might be in the works.
I know a year or so ago he had been mentioning on FB about a recording project with Rick, Bogie and Eric and at that time I asked Eric and there weren't any definite plans that had been scheduled yet but it had been discussed, and that he was friends with Zakk and he was open to all sorts of collaborations. Since then he has toured with Eric Gales and TC Tolliver. IIRC Knight and Gales are related. and i think Bogie and Rick both had recent Zakk mentions on their FB pages ( as well as Keeping The Blues Alive). Best of luck to them if it goes through but I haven't heard anything official.

Bogie heading to UNC-CH?!  That's my alma mater. Had no idea he was a local kid. Good luck to him!