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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

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Suspects are identified, and are brothers not of alcoholic beverage age (21) from an unamed Balkan country, an area rife with this type of stuff people.  US Of A citizens have not, until now, understood the REAL world sometimes, sorry, telling it like it is.  TV and movie weaned, make that addicted. 

I remember when I was in Istanbul, great, beautiful, amazing city, on US Navy shore liberty.
A bunch of us eventually wandered upon a McDonalds, and RickB will tell you also, sailors see that, far from home, an identifiable cultural icon, recognizable as from home, they must stop in.
We did, and had a well-deserved, ridiculously simple and low-key chill session on land for a change.  Not in uniform, like that matters!  Less than a hour later a bomb went off in that very McDonalds.  How in the heavens of 4,000++ sailors who were on shore, NONE were there at the time is befuddling.  Luckily no one was killed.  And here's a little fast-food for thought: we were probably NOT even intended targets.


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Yep. Sadly this kind of thing will recur here more and more. It appears that terrorist cells are well implanted and are beginning to act. All free people must be ever vigilant like the folks across the pond.

Two things, Rick.  I can't agree with you on the "and" part of more and more.  More, it's maybe almost a given.  "And"...not so sure.  I qualify that as bombings of any sort, specifically.  Also, I don't we can call this a "terror cell".  Kids lived here a dozens years.  Intel or misinformation dept. had them here on visas? for a year, intelligence my ****.  Classmates are saying he was a normal, real, nice, average teen!  Parents and a sister beside his brother.  DOMESTIC TERRORISM, as it was first called.  Where's the beef?  Puzzling.


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True dat! Lots of misinformation in this fog. I hope this was an isolated act of domestic terrorism and not something bigger. The country they come from is in a constant war between the jihadis and govt. there. The actions here seem to point to jihadi activists. Who knows the truth though that leads young men to this kind of act?

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

Uncle of suspects being interviewed although not certain he's involved in Maryland

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don't want to get into the politics or rights and wrongs of justice but what I will say is that there needs to be caution over creating martyrs here as I fear that more innocent life could well be lost. The USA really does not want to be a terrorist target for Chechen martyrs.

- Not sure if you guys have been getting much news on Chechnya over the last 15 years bit there have been some appalling acts of terrorism fuelled by this notion of martyrdom, - do a google search on "chechnyan martyrs" and you will see some of it, - do a search for Chechen school massacre or theatre massacre and you will see even more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_sch … age_crisis   - death of nearly 400 people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_the … age_crisis    - death of 130

There has been a very dark other side to how Chechens have been treated by Russia - really not wanting to get into the politics of it too deeply but this mess is another example of how oppression comes back and impacts innocent people who have nothing to do with it as it did in Boston.

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another message to terrorists, you will never ever kill this, not in a million years.

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

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don't want to get into the politics or rights and wrongs of justice but what I will say is that there needs to be caution over creating martyrs here as I fear that more innocent life could well be lost. The USA really does not want to be a terrorist target for Chechen martyrs.

- Not sure if you guys have been getting much news on Chechnya over the last 15 years bit there have been some appalling acts of terrorism fuelled by this notion of martyrdom, - do a google search on "chechnyan martyrs" and you will see some of it, - do a search for Chechen school massacre or theatre massacre and you will see even more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_sch … age_crisis   - death of nearly 400 people

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_the … age_crisis    - death of 130

There has been a very dark other side to how Chechens have been treated by Russia - really not wanting to get into the politics of it too deeply but this mess is another example of how oppression comes back and impacts innocent people who have nothing to do with it as it did in Boston.

Exactly - not the time or place to argue politics.

Boston is apparently shut down looking for accomplices

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This whole episode is totally creeping me out.  I am fifteen miles (at least) from where most of this is happening.  Not thirty minutes ago a parcel delivery person with a Russian type accent came to my door - legitimate delivery but totally freaked me out.

A LOT of misinformation is going on (what else is new).  The media really needs to pull back and give the police room to work, and at the same time to stop giving info to the suspect.  I truly hope they catch and not kill the second guy - too many unanswered questions.  The reports are saying both brothers have been here ten years, both smart kids, one in medical school - may or may not be true.

Crazy, crazy day.

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This whole episode is totally creeping me out.  I am fifteen miles (at least) from where most of this is happening.  Not thirty minutes ago a parcel delivery person with a Russian type accent came to my door - legitimate delivery but totally freaked me out.

A LOT of misinformation is going on (what else is new).  The media really needs to pull back and give the police room to work, and at the same time to stop giving info to the suspect.  I truly hope they catch and not kill the second guy - too many unanswered questions.  The reports are saying both brothers have been here ten years, both smart kids, one in medical school - may or may not be true.

Crazy, crazy day.

Sandy

Stay safe Sandy

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

samjp4 wrote:

This whole episode is totally creeping me out.  I am fifteen miles (at least) from where most of this is happening.  Not thirty minutes ago a parcel delivery person with a Russian type accent came to my door - legitimate delivery but totally freaked me out.

A LOT of misinformation is going on (what else is new).  The media really needs to pull back and give the police room to work, and at the same time to stop giving info to the suspect.  I truly hope they catch and not kill the second guy - too many unanswered questions.  The reports are saying both brothers have been here ten years, both smart kids, one in medical school - may or may not be true.

Crazy, crazy day.

Sandy

We live in very scary times. Stay safe

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

And at the end of the day it seems not much progress in finding the second bomber or accomplices.

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Done.

Sandy

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

Good. Are you anywhere. Close?

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No, thank goodness (about 15 miles away).   I have been up since 4:30 am watching this unfold, now comes the interesting part.  Thank you's going out to all the heros this week - don't mess with Boston!

Sandy

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

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No, thank goodness (about 15 miles away).   I have been up since 4:30 am watching this unfold, now comes the interesting part.  Thank you's going out to all the heros this week - don't mess with Boston!

Sandy

I worked up there in 1999 and stayed in Cambridge often for work so it was fairly personal to me. Living near Boston is not like living near NY.

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Has the world gone mad?

yes it has...

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Maybe not.  Stuff like this goes on every day in other parts of the world, and has been doing so for a very long time.  It's more amazing that we have been kept safe for so long.  US law enforcement and counterterrorism are pretty darn good.  Make that much more than pretty darn good.

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

Reem wrote:
bump827 wrote:

Has the world gone mad?

yes it has...

dknight16 wrote:

Maybe not.  Stuff like this goes on every day in other parts of the world, and has been doing so for a very long time.  It's more amazing that we have been kept safe for so long.  US law enforcement and counterterrorism are pretty darn good.  Make that much more than pretty darn good.

Let's not engage in contentious debate about it, but this may be a precedent for citizens to consider checking the approval box of domestic drones in law enforcement.  Consider it against the man and woman power required and the long, tense, drawn out ordeal (martial law on an entire major metropolitan city!!!!!!!) that just occurRed.  The helicopters are effective, but they could do much more with a detached, remote pilot at far less risk to all perhaps.  Of course, things like natural disaster damage assessment and missing persons also come to mind as usefulness also.

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He is apparently now answering questions in writing. Let's hope that they release some answers very soon.

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Re: Bombs at Boston Marathon finish - Benefit concert 5/30 at TD in Boston

Rocket wrote:
Reem wrote:
bump827 wrote:

Has the world gone mad?

yes it has...

dknight16 wrote:

Maybe not.  Stuff like this goes on every day in other parts of the world, and has been doing so for a very long time.  It's more amazing that we have been kept safe for so long.  US law enforcement and counterterrorism are pretty darn good.  Make that much more than pretty darn good.

Let's not engage in contentious debate about it, but this may be a precedent for citizens to consider checking the approval box of domestic drones in law enforcement.  Consider it against the man and woman power required and the long, tense, drawn out ordeal (martial law on an entire major metropolitan city!!!!!!!) that just occurRed.  The helicopters are effective, but they could do much more with a detached, remote pilot at far less risk to all perhaps.  Of course, things like natural disaster damage assessment and missing persons also come to mind as usefulness also.

Rock ON & Keep the Faith,
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There seems to have been more than ample reason for these brothers to have been far more closely watched than they were. Drones would not have added to the information the FBI already had. Im not a paranoid or conspiracy theorist, but domestic spy drones comes way too close to Big Brother and unconstitutional warrantless searches/surveillance/privacy issues.