19 (edited by pattyluvsjoe 2012-12-15 09:04:53)

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sad         :fp

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                 Joe Bonamassa 05-03-12

JBLP CHILD #184

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Such a tragic end to what started out as a day of celebration for my family as my youngest child gradauted from college in the morning and we were celebrating lunch with her and some of her friends when we first heard about this.  There's lots of time and places to debate the issues, but for now I simply grieve for those children, their families, their friends, their classmates and their teachers.  What this community has to deal with in what is supposed to be their happiest time of year just saddens me beyond my ability to explain.

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I think we all want to find ways to prevent these kind of things from happening. Not sure we can, but we do need to consider how this happened. Politics aside this is a National Crisis. It's impossible to imagine the pain of these families. All love is directed their way.

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there is nothing political whatsoever about questioning why the murder of so many innocents happened. The debate is not political it is humanitarian. Perhaps the mere fact that some see it as such is why it happens time and time again? that is in no way an accusation of anybody here but very much a question, and from where I stand this is exactly the time and place to ask questions.

It really does go without saying that every decent person and I would say that every single one of Joe's fan's knows that this is dreadfully wrong so it is time to do a bit more that just show concern and remorse in a relatively meaningless way. NOW what is needed is a solution to make sure that never again does a parent have to turn up at school to hear that their child has been executed.

I make no apologies for sounding off here because there is a f'ing elephant in the room (English phrase) that needs dealing with.  Looking in from the outside it REALLY is time that the discussion was out in the open, those poor little children whose future was taken away by such an horrendous act deserve some real effort to be sure that it can NEVER happen again to another. It requires bravery from all to question strongly held values and question what these actually mean when an idiot twists those values to the detriment of others in such an appalling way.

My YouTube channel with plenty of my Joe's videos dating from 2009 inc his first Hammersmith Odeon ones:
http://www.youtube.com/ian916fun

23 (edited by Denbon18 2012-12-15 16:10:29)

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If I may, this is such a Horrible crime....completely irrational.  I believe all Spider is saying/feeling is that this thread is a place to express our sympathies/prayers/thoughts and feelings for those most affected.  If we turn THIS thread into a debate/discussion on gun control, mental health, video games, TV, parenting, and any number of other influences and factors, it diminishes the good this thread can do in that it provides a place to come together emotionally.  This horror has affected every person with half a heart, and I think it helps in just a small way by being able to share our sadness with others.  there can be any number of other threats to discuss the political and other issues.....but does it really need to be here?  I'm sure I'll get ripped for expressing this view, but I also know if I were a parent, friend, or family member of one of those lost, and I happened to visit the JB website, I could take a little comfort in reading other people's expressions of sadness, and just knowing so many people out there were offering their prayers of support.  I wouldn't want to read the other stuff...(again...it's a very important discussion....just not mixed in with the expressions of sadness).

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Denbon18 wrote:

If I may, this is such a Horrible crime....completely irrational.  I believe all Spider is saying/feeling is that this thread is a place to express our sympathies/prayers/thoughts and feelings for those most affected.  If we turn THIS thread into a debate/discussion on gun control, mental health, video games, TV, parenting, and any number of other influences and factors, it diminishes the good this thread can do in that it provides a place to come together emotionally.  This horror has affected every person with half a heart, and I think it helps in just a small way by being able to share our sadness with others.  there can be any number of other threats to discuss the political and other issues.....but does it really need to be here?  I'm sure I'll get ripped for expressing this view, but I also know if I were a parent, friend, or family member of one of those lost, and I happened to visit the JB website, I could take a little comfort in reading other people's expressions of sadness, and just knowing so many people out there were offering their prayers of support.  I wouldn't want to read the other stuff...(again...it's a very important discussion....just not mixed in with the expressions of sadness).

I don't know how anyone could rip you for what you just wrote...in fact, I was ready to write something very similar. Please let this thread stand as it is: A place where people can express their feelings of sadness for the families affected by a senseless act of violence. If you'd like to express opinions on the topics Denbon mentions above, please open another topic and do so. Those discussions should not happen here or this thread will deteriorate very quickly.

"Rock ON & Keep the Faith"

25 (edited by cathysiler 2012-12-15 23:43:00)

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I was so touched by the following video. This man speaks with such grace. I imagine the fact that he is a P.A., in the Neonatal Intensive Care, explains why he is able to maintain his composure 24 hrs after losing a child.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/vi … action.cnn


Peace, please.

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Beautiful opening to "The Voice" tonight :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO64urOFNaY

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the world seems to get crazier and crazier. who in their right mind would hurt innocent children?! and God help their families and loved ones. i have prayed from time to time that one day the news will have something good to tell us, but after i have seen the school-shooting it seems to me that lunatics are spreading around! where are we going to end up?

Fishing for a good time starts with throwing in your line...

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I just removed a few things to keep this on topic. Nothing personal towards the authors just thought we would keep this about grieving the loss of the children.

This hits home to all of us who are parents and grand parents. Unfathomable that someone would rob the innocents of their lives at a time when they are joyous in experiencing even the simple pleasures of everyday life.

I can't imagine how a community can ever recover.

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The depth of the grief that these families are experiencing is unimaginable....so many lives changed in an instant....the one thing that Bobby and I have experienced since Don's passing that has been some of the greatest comfort is random acts of kindness we have been so humbled to receive....in thinking about these families I was trying to think what I could do for them and my thoughts came back to random acts of kindness....at my workplace...in my community...on the telephone...wherever there is contact with another human soul....maybe if a lot of people would just start practicing random acts of kindness in their own areas it would soon spread across the country and then globally....perhaps a random act of kindness extended to a stranger might be just what they needed to keep them from some non-life supporting act...there has to be some level we can all start at to try and make a difference.....
I use to think what difference does it make what I think about things, I am just one person...but I have experienced first hand what one person can do for another, does make a difference......a huge difference....just knowing someone cares is huge.

                                                       May life bless all of you in every area of your life,
                                                                                   pattyluvsjoe

"I'm not nice to any guitar!"      lol
                 Joe Bonamassa 05-03-12

JBLP CHILD #184

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In the spirit of what Patty said check out this article.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/20 … story.html

It has to start someplace.

Sandy

"There's a lot of people that are in so much of a hurry to be, I guess, to be famous or that they don't want to take the time to learn to play and do all that.They'd rather just knock it down off a computer and maybe get on a game show and get famous..That's fine if that's what you want to do.
"We're more old school than that. We like creating the sounds."  - Tom Petty

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samjp4 wrote:

In the spirit of what Patty said check out this article.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/20 … story.html

It has to start someplace.

Sandy

this is definitely worth a try at any place. i know at first they'll think i'm crazy smiling for nothing but with time i think people will smile back and realize that it's really a great and peaceful feeling.

Fishing for a good time starts with throwing in your line...

32 (edited by bigjeffjones 2012-12-24 07:37:54)

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Many years ago, I was bartending for a very exclusive engagement and there were kids there; family members and so on.  I noticed one young guy arguing quietly with his mother or aunt (whoever) about something.  I was jammed and I soon  realized he was in the crowd in front of the bar, getting nowhere...talked over and shoved aside.

This one guy yells his order at me, in a way only drunks can, from behind the kid.  I looked at him and said,  "If you've lost your manners, you might want to wait your turn on the next one."  He got red in the face and every body at the little bar got real quiet.

I looked down at the young man and said, "I believe you're next sir.  What can I mix you?"  Well he just wanted a soda, but the change came over him.  He straightened to his full height and didnot even mumble.  When I handed him 2 Cokes and said he might wannna carry one over to that pretty little girl sitting by herself and looking bored, he grinned and a playah was born.

The guy I shushed went from combative to completely in the game in 1 minutes time, apologized to the kid, to me and grinning ear to ear gave me a huge tip.  Together we watched a 15 year old "man" make his move.  She was done when he slid up to her with that drink.  Big Money...

Funny ol' world.

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
Blues From the Bottoms

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bigjeffjones wrote:

Many years ago, I was bartending for a very exclusive engagement and there were kids there; family members and so on.  I noticed one young guy arguing quietly with his mother or aunt (whoever) about something.  I was jammed and I soon  realized he was in the crowd in front of the bar, getting nowhere...talked over and shoved aside.

This one guy yells his order at me, in a way only drunks can, from behind the kid.  I looked at him and said,  "If you've lost your manners, you might want to wait your turn on the next one."  He got red in the face and every body at the little bar got real quiet.

I looked down at the young man and said, "I believe you're next sir.  What can I mix you?"  Well he just wanted a soda, but the change came over him.  He straightened to his full height and didnot even mumble.  When I handed him 2 Cokes and said he might wannna carry one over to that pretty little girl sitting by herself and looking bored, he grinned and a playah was born.

The guy I shushed went from combative to completely in the game in 1 minutes time, apologized to the kid, to me and grinning ear to ear gave me a huge tip.  Together we watched a 15 year old "man" make his move.  She was done when he slid up to her with that drink.  Big Money...

Funny ol' world.


Great story and why am I not surprised about the wisdom of one Big Jeff.  I'm sure you've had many "incidents" where you made a difference to all types of deserving human beings.  Me included.

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This is quite an irreverent question but does anybody know who runs the facebook page of Joe Bonamassa FanClub? I saw a post from the said page asking people's opinions regarding this school shooting and gun law in the US. My intense curiosity strikes me hard why  a music fanpage asked people about political question. I just personally think it isn't a right place to ask. Nothing wrong about politics though (I personally am involved in politics stuffs).

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Curby wrote:
bigjeffjones wrote:

Many years ago, I was bartending for a very exclusive engagement and there were kids there; family members and so on.  I noticed one young guy arguing quietly with his mother or aunt (whoever) about something.  I was jammed and I soon  realized he was in the crowd in front of the bar, getting nowhere...talked over and shoved aside.

This one guy yells his order at me, in a way only drunks can, from behind the kid.  I looked at him and said,  "If you've lost your manners, you might want to wait your turn on the next one."  He got red in the face and every body at the little bar got real quiet.

I looked down at the young man and said, "I believe you're next sir.  What can I mix you?"  Well he just wanted a soda, but the change came over him.  He straightened to his full height and didnot even mumble.  When I handed him 2 Cokes and said he might wannna carry one over to that pretty little girl sitting by herself and looking bored, he grinned and a playah was born.

The guy I shushed went from combative to completely in the game in 1 minutes time, apologized to the kid, to me and grinning ear to ear gave me a huge tip.  Together we watched a 15 year old "man" make his move.  She was done when he slid up to her with that drink.  Big Money...

Funny ol' world.


Great story and why am I not surprised about the wisdom of one Big Jeff.  I'm sure you've had many "incidents" where you made a difference to all types of deserving human beings.  Me included.

Nah....you helped me.  I'm just some poor hurting slob saved by a little grace. 

One person, one couple, one family can break the chain.  My sister was here on Christmas and laughingly told stories about the horrible abuse we all suffered growing up and who'd a thunk it; Jeff is the one with a successful relationship and a sane family.  Tia and I broke the chain.

I've lost so many to booze and/or violence.  The ones that hurt the worst, that outraged me the most were them that were so young.

That outrage is poison to me.  Only LOVE can conquer hate.

Rock On & Keep the FAITH
             It is
Blues From the Bottoms