Topic: Question about Band Educate

So yesterday I saw a post on facebook from the drummer of the band I'm in.  He said he is looking for a guitarist to play in a trio.  So I asked him what was up if our band was breaking up and if he wanted me to play some guitar.  Basically the response I got back was, We don't play out enough and him and our lead singer are going to take backing tracks and play out locally a few nights a week.  It was things I'm already playing and zero practice time together.  I would have the backing tracks if I wanted to play along to it, and he was going to play drums and sing.   All I gotta do is play guitar and collect $100 a gig.  Not bad at all.  The problem comes in with the other 3 guys in the original band.  They are not going to play so its kind of like we are split down the middle.  The other 3 only want to play out 1 or 2 nights a month.  Me as well as the other 2 are looking to play out with this trio 2 to 5 times a week.
Does this sound like it breaks some unspoken rule between band mates about playing music?  I'm already expecting to have some people a little pissed, but they just are not interested in playing out much.  And even though we are in it for the music it would be a lot easier for me to justify playing music and buying gear if I was bringing in some money.  I mean just with this trio playing the same stuff I'd be drawing in half my day job's weekly earnings (most of which will be paid cash).

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Re: Question about Band Educate

I think it comes down a little to communication with your fellow bandmates.

You say the other 3 guys in the band only want to play live 1 or 2 times per month, but has that question actually been asked?

If the proposed trio plays as much as you say then presumably rehearsal and performances including the other 3 members will be compromised, so it is a kind of 'de facto' new band set-up effectively ending the other combo, without any real dialogue or discussion.

That will lead to some bad feeling and detrimental comment. All quite usual in band disputes and break ups, but avoidable to some extent if you want.

I think being honest is the crux of it. There is a commercial incentive and the three of you are prepared to grab it and run with on the basis you are all hungry for it. That is fair enough but get together and explain why. It can be presented as a cut and dried thing to the ousted, or forgotten 3, so as to forestall any further discussion but at least there can be no accusation of deceit.

I suspect when asked you may find the others might be prepared to do more, as perhaps they value the band and don't want it split up. Then you have a choice to call their bluff and committment to the project or not, although it sounds like your decisions are already made though to go on as a trio, after all, you are going to earn more.

I think the etiquette is whether to be open about it. It might not avoid an argument, but at least there is no behind the scenes dealing. If you think it will p*$$ people off, why do it that way?

There are no unspoken rules as far as I know being broken by what you intend to do, but if it is as intense as you say it will be you are effectively going to end the band as it is and exclude 3 of the members. Musicians tend to be very reticent about accepting the consequences of their actions sometimes.

I recently broke with a problem female partner. I found out just now the drummer in the band I was playing with at the time 2 years ago, who I thought was a close friend, had been approached by her then about getting together. He never told me at the time, or when he  knew that she later even tried the same tactic with the bassist! OK, we all know now she has a Borderline Personality Disorder, but there was no word to the wise from them to me, which actually, could have been extremely helpful to know let me tell you.

It is a completely different situation of course, but 'unspoken rules' and moral behaviour just don't seem to figure in it sometimes. But it would be nice if it did.

So you can just do it and forget about them. Isn't that what happens most of the times? Sad to say.

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I can id this situation - as it has happened to me some years ago. As a drummer in a band of four members - we used to get together to practice, once a week, and gig maybe once a month/6 weeks. This wasn't what i wanted, so i looked around for another band who wanted to gig every week, and i found one, behind my other band mates - not a cool thing to do i know, but i was getting so bored doing this once a week practice thing - i had to do something. As it turned out, this other band i joined fizzled out after 6 months, and after a gig that went horribly wrong. That's another story!!
Should i have said to the first band,i was unhappy - sure, of course, but i didn't. Do i regret what i did ? Looking back now ..... no, not really. Did i learn from that experience ? Yes, absolutely!

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Re: Question about Band Educate

Well I work one of the 3 that is in the main band and he's quiting on us.  He's not mad at me but he's mad in general.  The question about playing out more has been brought up a lot and it never changes.  The other 3 just are not willing to play out more then 1 time a month.  I get along with all of them but if they decide to quit its their choice not mine.

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Thanks!  I'm really hoping we can keep the remaining 5 of us together, but who knows what will happen.  As with all bands there is more to the story then meets the eye.   The Band had just made it to the 1.5 year mark when the you know what hit the fan with 3 of us wanting to play out more.  I'm not sure if the other 2 know about it yet or not.  Our bassists mom passed away so we haven't burdened him with band drama, and our keyboardist lives kind of far away.  This isn't a call you up and tell you kind of situation, we want to do this face to face with them. 
The guy that left, has decided he is calling it quits on music all together and won't even play acoustic guitar with me like we used to before this band.  I've got no idea what's going on with him, but I do know he's going to be childish about it.  We have at least 2 more gigs before he makes his mind up and I hope he isn't going to burn some bridges down like he's told me he is going to do.