Re: Les Paul Pickups

AD3THREE wrote:

I'd check ebay for a used 57' gold top or maybe a 58' reissue if your looking for VOS.  I get about $2200-2500 average price.

Check out the guitar emporium on TGP
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/forumdisplay.php?f=22

Or My Les Paul Forum
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/member-classifieds/

You can always post a "WTB" (want to buy) with what you're looking for and location. 

57 classics in my ES-335 and Bonamassa pickups in my Goldtop.  Yes, very different, but I like having the option of playing either as it all depends on my mood and what I what music I want to play.

Jim

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FWIW, here's a good thread about wirings:

https://forum.jbonamassa.com/viewtopic.php?id=10982

Jim

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PSmith1946 wrote:

This may be a stupid question but would it be worth changing the Epi wiring for the early Gibson wiring? If so what would be the likely result?

What Epi Wiring? Is this a general enquiry?

Yes changing out Epi wiring is generally a recomended way to enhance the guitar - you can pick modern or 50s style wiring and it will still be better - 50s style is more useful if you like to roll the volume and tone back - you keep more of the clarity - the downside is that you almost always end up having to adjust the volume and tone to change either as the controls beccome interactive.

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Chrisuk wrote:
PSmith1946 wrote:

This may be a stupid question but would it be worth changing the Epi wiring for the early Gibson wiring? If so what would be the likely result?

What Epi Wiring? Is this a general enquiry?

Yes changing out Epi wiring is generally a recomended way to enhance the guitar - you can pick modern or 50s style wiring and it will still be better - 50s style is more useful if you like to roll the volume and tone back - you keep more of the clarity - the downside is that you almost always end up having to adjust the volume and tone to change either as the controls beccome interactive.

Thanks I love the Epi it's feel and the tone and sustain of the guitar when unplugged (not sure if they are all like this or if I am just lucky) , I would keep this guitar no matter what but I thought it could be improved in other ways. Thanks for clearing this up and as I said I thought it was a stupid question but you never know for sure until you ask.

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)

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PSmith1946 wrote:
Chrisuk wrote:
PSmith1946 wrote:

This may be a stupid question but would it be worth changing the Epi wiring for the early Gibson wiring? If so what would be the likely result?

What Epi Wiring? Is this a general enquiry?

Yes changing out Epi wiring is generally a recomended way to enhance the guitar - you can pick modern or 50s style wiring and it will still be better - 50s style is more useful if you like to roll the volume and tone back - you keep more of the clarity - the downside is that you almost always end up having to adjust the volume and tone to change either as the controls beccome interactive.

Thanks I love the Epi it's feel and the tone and sustain of the guitar when unplugged (not sure if they are all like this or if I am just lucky) , I would keep this guitar no matter what but I thought it could be improved in other ways. Thanks for clearing this up and as I said I thought it was a stupid question but you never know for sure until you ask.

It's not a stupid question at all - inside your Epi is (apparently) lots of telephone style wiring and cheap pots - it is not expensive to swap this out for good pots, caps and proper braided cable.

I played a Epi explorer at the Gibson exhibit at the O2 and it was a great guitar a good one can be made into a great guitar if you sort out the weakest links - and if your set up is already sorted and the unplugged sound is strong then wiring is a good place to go next.

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I don't know if anyone else here would agree (and sorry to go slightly off topic) but I had a set of Duncan Alnico II pros in a LP before and absolutely loved them. Very clear and smooth, not harsh at all. Even the neck pickup had a very nice clarity. My 57 classics remind me of them except the Alnico pickups were a little clearer. -S

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I've heard lots of people love the Alnico II's.  Its Slash's favorite pickups and the bases of his signature pickups by Seymour Duncan.  I had a Bonamassa Epi LP.  It had a huge neck bigger then any gibson I've ever owned and I've had about 10 of them.  It was even bigger then the Epiphone Dot I had which it too was bigger then a Gibson neck.  The tone was fantastic and even though it had Alpha brand pots it sounded great with those burst bucker II and III.  I saw the caps were upgraded to something better then epiphone usually uses and they might be better then most stock ceramic disk caps that Gibson and Fender uses.  I wanted to mod it because the pots are horrible.  Very Linear taper, not like CTS pots that have a nice smooth taper that works like your ears expect to hear it.  Well worth $5-$7 a pot.  Acme guitar works claim that there is no audible difference from their pots to orange drop caps to RS Guitar works Pots and Oil Caps.  Weather their is a difference or not I think its worth noting that RS Guitar Works has Brass shaft pots and tighter Tolerances then the Aluminum shafts in the CTS pots sold by Acme.

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Chrisuk wrote:
PSmith1946 wrote:
Chrisuk wrote:

What Epi Wiring? Is this a general enquiry?

Yes changing out Epi wiring is generally a recomended way to enhance the guitar - you can pick modern or 50s style wiring and it will still be better - 50s style is more useful if you like to roll the volume and tone back - you keep more of the clarity - the downside is that you almost always end up having to adjust the volume and tone to change either as the controls beccome interactive.

Thanks I love the Epi it's feel and the tone and sustain of the guitar when unplugged (not sure if they are all like this or if I am just lucky) , I would keep this guitar no matter what but I thought it could be improved in other ways. Thanks for clearing this up and as I said I thought it was a stupid question but you never know for sure until you ask.

It's not a stupid question at all - inside your Epi is (apparently) lots of telephone style wiring and cheap pots - it is not expensive to swap this out for good pots, caps and proper braided cable.

I played a Epi explorer at the Gibson exhibit at the O2 and it was a great guitar a good one can be made into a great guitar if you sort out the weakest links - and if your set up is already sorted and the unplugged sound is strong then wiring is a good place to go next.

Thanks for that, any ideas for a good supplier of the required parts so I can get started this summer?

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)

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Bare Knuckle Pickups for pots and caps.

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sh … 6ff07102f4

allparts for braded wire.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … -4366.html

Or alternatively allparts do full kits.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … 16583.html

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Chrisuk wrote:

Bare Knuckle Pickups for pots and caps.

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sh … 6ff07102f4

allparts for braded wire.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … -4366.html

Or alternatively allparts do full kits.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … 16583.html

Do they ship to the states?

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"Some people dream of worthy accomplishments while others stay awake and do them"
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I'm still going to say I would avoid Aluminum Shaft pots.  They are not as tough and over time will start to wear out and leave trash in your pots.  Brass is the way to go, especially if you do volume swells a lot.

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Or if you really want to go to town...

http://www.vintageoneguitars.com/lpharness.html

tongue

Guitars: Fender American Original 60s Strat, Fender American Vintage 52 Tele, Gibson Les Paul Traditional
FX: Various including - Ceriatone Centura, Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem
Amp: Fender ML212 Deville + 212 extention cabinet

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In all seriousness, are these kits worth it?

http://www.croxguitars.com/vintagekits.htm

Guitars: Fender American Original 60s Strat, Fender American Vintage 52 Tele, Gibson Les Paul Traditional
FX: Various including - Ceriatone Centura, Fire Custom Shop Carpe Diem
Amp: Fender ML212 Deville + 212 extention cabinet

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Nope I gotta have brass shafts!  Its a must in every guitar I own and the ones that don't have them that I've owned I didn't care enough about them to replace the pots anyway and sold them.  Brass shafts are the best.  RS Guitarworks might not have an audible sound difference to the aluminum shafts of other brand cts pots but I'm serious RS Guitar works makes good    S H I T!  Joe Perry thinks so anyway.

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Adrian J wrote:

In all seriousness, are these kits worth it?

http://www.croxguitars.com/vintagekits.htm

Wow look beat to hell

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"Some people dream of worthy accomplishments while others stay awake and do them"
Skinner #1,JBLP 145(aged),252, (unaged),#285HM, Bburst #026, Joes 052 BCC black LP, Strat> RT,EC Gilmour,Beck,Lenny LP> PK 83,CC#2,3,4,9,Amps>Carol Ann RAH JB-100 SN 001,JB100 Red SN02,OD2, OD3,Tucana 2&3 Triptix,Twinkle land, Plexi ,JB Jub, Jubs,Plexi,Satch,Two Rock>others

Re: Les Paul Pickups

Chrisuk wrote:

Bare Knuckle Pickups for pots and caps.

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sh … 6ff07102f4

allparts for braded wire.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … -4366.html

Or alternatively allparts do full kits.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … 16583.html

Thanks you are indeed a star. big_smile

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)

Re: Les Paul Pickups

PSmith1946 wrote:
Chrisuk wrote:

Bare Knuckle Pickups for pots and caps.

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sh … 6ff07102f4

allparts for braded wire.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … -4366.html

Or alternatively allparts do full kits.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … 16583.html

Thanks you are indeed a star. big_smile

I use Epi's for playing out - No major heart wrenching moments if someone decides to do a runner with one.

Anyhow, Just to go a little left field on this one, I always get rid of the caps - my latest Epi (66 based SG) had Pots with a taper that I like so I left them in. The Caps are always Sprague Orange drops, a .22 for tone and a .001 for treble bleed.

As for pickups I don't get on with Epi's home brew - they're too generic sounding so I always replace them with a pickup that has a PAF ish output. My recommendation (and this is the left field bit) is www.irongear.co.uk. I'll say no more and leave you to make your own mind up. (All I will say is I have 3 Epi's with various Irongear p'ups and 1 Les Paul with a T bucker and 1 with Burstbucker V's in it. next time I need a pickup I'll be going back to Irongear).

Cheers

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Crave1 wrote:
PSmith1946 wrote:
Chrisuk wrote:

Bare Knuckle Pickups for pots and caps.

https://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sh … 6ff07102f4

allparts for braded wire.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … -4366.html

Or alternatively allparts do full kits.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ … 16583.html

Thanks you are indeed a star. big_smile

I use Epi's for playing out - No major heart wrenching moments if someone decides to do a runner with one.

Anyhow, Just to go a little left field on this one, I always get rid of the caps - my latest Epi (66 based SG) had Pots with a taper that I like so I left them in. The Caps are always Sprague Orange drops, a .22 for tone and a .001 for treble bleed.

As for pickups I don't get on with Epi's home brew - they're too generic sounding so I always replace them with a pickup that has a PAF ish output. My recommendation (and this is the left field bit) is www.irongear.co.uk. I'll say no more and leave you to make your own mind up. (All I will say is I have 3 Epi's with various Irongear p'ups and 1 Les Paul with a T bucker and 1 with Burstbucker V's in it. next time I need a pickup I'll be going back to Irongear).

Cheers

I 'm more than happy with the Burstbucker 2 and 3 pickups in the JB LP just considering upgrading the rest but thanks anyway.

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)