Topic: Decided to dedicate myself to slide for a while...
Any tips? Where do I start? I want to get a new guitar just for slide...any ideas?
Thanks!
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Any tips? Where do I start? I want to get a new guitar just for slide...any ideas?
Thanks!
#1 - Get a guitar with double cutaways.
#2 - Raise the action and add heavier gauge strings
#3 - MUTE EVERYTHING except the note you're playing
#4 - play/do everything slow at first (especially vibrato)
#5 - Watch Derek Trucks
Basic guidelines that will make life easier, above all have fun with it & once you get that first nice note that doesn't buzz, you'll pick it up surprisingly quick.
#1 - Get a guitar with double cutaways.
#2 - Raise the action and add heavier gauge strings
#3 - MUTE EVERYTHING except the note you're playing
#4 - play/do everything slow at first (especially vibrato)
#5 - Watch Derek TrucksBasic guidelines that will make life easier, above all have fun with it & once you get that first nice note that doesn't buzz, you'll pick it up surprisingly quick.
Got it! Thanks amazefraze
Haha amazefraze? where did i merit such a complimentary form of alliteration?
And no worries
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I built me this for slide.
I suggest listening to some classic slide material: Muddy Waters, Elmore James or Duane Allman. Don't jump into Derek Trucks right away - it's going to be a lot harder for your ears and hands to make sense of it. Start with some classic Muddy Waters tunes, learn the licks and build out your repertoire from there.
Don't worry about having a different guitar for slide (outside of the convenience of having one in a different tuning), or even much of a setup change - if you like slightly higher action you're probably just fine as-is. Like anything else, it will take some time to discover "your" tone, figure out what type of action you like, what finger you like the slide one, and even what type of slide you like. I originally liked bigger porcelain type slides, but eventually changed to smaller Dunlop Chromes and that's been it for me ever since. Some folks like brass, some folks like glass. It depends on your playing and your instruments - you just have to use your ears and experiment.
The biggest tip I have is just use your ears - focus on getting to pitch on every note, then add vibrato. Don't go too crazy with a million notes at first - it's going to sound sloppy. Work on feeling (and hearing) where the pitch is. You can do this by learning some classic Muddy Waters and Elmore James tunes and build out from there.
One note: I love Elixer Nanowebs, but to my ears and hands, they're not great for slide. They just don't seem to generate the tone and feel. Probably less resistance due to the coating.
I went with an SG for slide. Easy upper fret access. The only thing I don't like about it is the neck/body weight ratio sucks, but I only use it on a few tunes a night so it's whatever. I used thicker strings and raise the action.
As for people to listen to:
Duane Allman, Derek Trucks, Ry Cooder, Johnny Winter, Elmore James, Sonny Landreth.
If you wanna have fun learning slide, I'd tune to a chord. If you want to keep the high and low E, tune to an E chord. "BUT" I like to tune to a D because it's lower, and I can use a capo on the 2nd fret for open E
1,4,5 blues is a one finger deal when using a slide with open tuning After you get comfy, you can go to other stuff.
His vibrato is wickedly wide, but Rod Price of Foghat is my all time slide god. An amazing slide player . . . not just a player that occasionally grabs the slide.
Don't worry about your guitar, what you play now is fine. Unless you play in open tunings now, learn to play side in standard tuning, more time to concentrate on technique and not searching for notes. Learn to play in open tunings without the slide, more time to concentrate on notes intead of technique. I had tons of trouble playing Statesboro Blues in D (hardly played anything in standard tuning in D) until I practiced it without the slide in open E. Don't change string guages, don't change action. Keep your setup as close to what you use now as possible, I use 8's for everything. If you use 10's or less, always tune up instead of down, the added tension makes it easier to play.
Open tuning is going to be easier because you don't have to worry about muting so much.
Derick Trucks learned to play in open E. It is the only tuning he uses, even for non slide stuff.
I use open G, not only for slide but it's the Keef Richards tuning (brown suger, honky tonk woman, happy, can't always get....etc etc etc) not only that but the strings 2, 3 and 4 are unchanged so it is easy for me lead on those strings.
Johnny Winter, I think, uses open A for his slide stuff. At least he did for Meantown Blues.
Duane Allman played in standard, I'm pretty sure.
Sonny Landreth plays in more friggin tunings than you can shake a stick at. When I saw him he alternated between two guitars. For every song he was playing, his tech was tuning the other to whatever tuning the next song was in.
Open tuning is going to be easier because you don't have to worry about muting so much.
Derick Trucks learned to play in open E. It is the only tuning he uses, even for non slide stuff.
I use open G, not only for slide but it's the Keef Richards tuning (brown suger, honky tonk woman, happy, can't always get....etc etc etc) not only that but the strings 2, 3 and 4 are unchanged so it is easy for me lead on those strings.
Johnny Winter, I think, uses open A for his slide stuff. At least he did for Meantown Blues.
Duane Allman played in standard, I'm pretty sure.
Sonny Landreth plays in more friggin tunings than you can shake a stick at. When I saw him he alternated between two guitars. For every song he was playing, his tech was tuning the other to whatever tuning the next song was in.
Allman played in open E.
Johnny Winter uses open D a lot (downtuned open E).
Warren Haynes uses standard tuning.
Lowell George (Little Feet) used open G because he said open A adds too much tension.
Robert Johnson used a multitude of tunings.
Here is an easy thing to do to get you into slide. Just do the scales you already do when playing guitar without a slide. Practice putting all the strings but that one note. Don't be afraid to try a pick either, Johnny Winter used finger picks. Also the hardest part is to remember slide has micro pitches, so if your not over the fret your wanting to be on you can be slightly flat or sharp. While your learning make sure you don't cheat it by going fast and sloppy, do it slow and hit the pitch as best you can. That's how you get to the point where Trucks is where he can slide all the way down the neck to a pitch that's spot on without having to "look" for it. I would start in standard because you more then likely already know some licks. With the Allman Brothers style slide playing you need to make the slide breath. By that I mean if you slide up the neck on one string the string next to it needs to slide down the neck so it sounds like a your inhale and exhale like a singer. I take a lot of my slide playing from Duane Allman, but Warren Haynes is my biggest influence on slide. Trucks is a master as well, but he gets into all these different scales that are not really in my guitar vocabulary, like I speak english and I'm trying to speak French. I can't do it! Great if you can, but I do have a life outside of guitar.
Hate to resurrect an old topic...but thought some of you might be interested....here's how far I've gotten so far after 3 days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbYwCoTqF34
Man you got it! I'm not sure if it was note for note like joe's but you got the heart and soul of the solo and the tone was dead nuts! I wish I could have picked up slide in 3 days. My slide playing took 4 years or more to get to where I am now. I'm very happy with my slide playing but its nothing to write home about. Keep it up and you'll be great at it!
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