Topic: JBLP's why were they not Tom Murphy aged???
is there any reason why the JBLP's were not aged by Tom Murphy.........given that you can buy a TM aged reissue for roughly the same money
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I think the ageing on the JBLPs are nice. Subtle enough and not overdone. I've seen some Tom Murphy guitars that look as if they've been aged by a chain flail... No way I would treat my guitars that badly over the course of time. I like the look of an old guitar that has been played a lot, yet cared for.
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Having Murphy do it drives the price up too. CS guitars are expensive enough. Of course, I don't get the whole aged thing anyway . . .
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Devan, I agree that it should look played but not like it fell out of the truck. I like your comparison with a chain Flail.
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Personally have never seen the point. Get new one, play it continuously for a number of years, let it mature and age along with you. Get your ageing naturally. I still clean mine down after every use. I probably wear it faster due to the cloth.. 
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Tom Murphy doesn't work cheap. His name carries a serious reputation and he's earned it. Guitars that are "aged" by T.M. demand a premium. Joe wanted his guitars to be more affordable in comparison to other custom shop Murphy aged Gibsons. In the beginning I was not enthused about getting a aged guitar but I think with the JBLP it was done right and done very nicely. As with any guitar there are standouts, but with the original Gibson Custom Shop JB-LP series, they're all really great guitars! If your lucky enough to own one, play it and enjoy it. They're not meant to be wall hangers!!!!
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I got my JBLP for just over $3k (U.S.) new, which I thought was a great price. I don't know what Murphy aged guitars are going for but I'm thinking more? This is the only guitar I play anymore, and I have an embarrassing # to choose from. The aging was a little off on mine, with obvious razor cuts off the top into the wood, but I had that fixed by a local tech and it looks great now.
I also have one of the Bonamassa Bursts which cost around a grand more and it sadly sits in the case. Can't get a relationship going with that one yet.....
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xcorporate wrote:
I got my JBLP for just over $3k (U.S.) new, which I thought was a great price. I don't know what Murphy aged guitars are going for but I'm thinking more? This is the only guitar I play anymore, and I have an embarrassing # to choose from. The aging was a little off on mine, with obvious razor cuts off the top into the wood, but I had that fixed by a local tech and it looks great now.
I also have one of the Bonamassa Bursts which cost around a grand more and it sadly sits in the case. Can't get a relationship going with that one yet.....
If you want to lend it to me I can age it for you if you give me a long enough period of time. 20 yrs perhaps????
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PSmith1946 wrote:
If you want to lend it to me I can age it for you if you give me a long enough period of time. 20 yrs perhaps????
ROFL!! I can see new business opportunities here... 'Realistic' ageing for guitar collectors. Turnaround time approx. 20 years. 
I'm with you in that I think that my 'love' for the guitar with cloths, polishes etc. probably causes more wear on the finish than my playing. I've got a 38 year old Les Paul Deluxe that looks nowhere near as beat up as some relics. It doesn't look brand new either, but at least it doesn't look like it was dragged behind a car at a demolition derby.
My JBLP Gold Top was my first 'relic' guitar I've ever bought. I never really cared for the concept before, but now I can see that it's a bit like buying a brand new guitar that feels like a second hand guitar - broken in, and plus I am now no t really worried about putting another small ding in a guitar that I paid $4K for... 
JBLP Gold Top #129 - redubbed "#1 in Oz"
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You come to the states and it's yours to play as long you want! hahahhahahhah
PSmith1946 wrote:
xcorporate wrote:I got my JBLP for just over $3k (U.S.) new, which I thought was a great price. I don't know what Murphy aged guitars are going for but I'm thinking more? This is the only guitar I play anymore, and I have an embarrassing # to choose from. The aging was a little off on mine, with obvious razor cuts off the top into the wood, but I had that fixed by a local tech and it looks great now.
I also have one of the Bonamassa Bursts which cost around a grand more and it sadly sits in the case. Can't get a relationship going with that one yet.....
If you want to lend it to me I can age it for you if you give me a long enough period of time. 20 yrs perhaps????
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Here's a shot of my headstock on my 2007 R9 aged by Tom Murphy. It impossible to see Tom's work on the body but it's very nicely done.
http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc4 … /R9-07.jpg
http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc4 … /R9-09.jpg
Tom Murphy's Custom Shop work will for the most part fetch anywhere north of $5K.
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xcorporate wrote:
You come to the states and it's yours to play as long you want! hahahhahahhah
PSmith1946 wrote:xcorporate wrote:I got my JBLP for just over $3k (U.S.) new, which I thought was a great price. I don't know what Murphy aged guitars are going for but I'm thinking more? This is the only guitar I play anymore, and I have an embarrassing # to choose from. The aging was a little off on mine, with obvious razor cuts off the top into the wood, but I had that fixed by a local tech and it looks great now.
I also have one of the Bonamassa Bursts which cost around a grand more and it sadly sits in the case. Can't get a relationship going with that one yet.....
If you want to lend it to me I can age it for you if you give me a long enough period of time. 20 yrs perhaps????
Be careful, I come for at least two and a half months a year I may take you up on it.
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Devan wrote:
PSmith1946 wrote:If you want to lend it to me I can age it for you if you give me a long enough period of time. 20 yrs perhaps????
ROFL!! I can see new business opportunities here... 'Realistic' ageing for guitar collectors. Turnaround time approx. 20 years.
I'm with you in that I think that my 'love' for the guitar with cloths, polishes etc. probably causes more wear on the finish than my playing. I've got a 38 year old Les Paul Deluxe that looks nowhere near as beat up as some relics. It doesn't look brand new either, but at least it doesn't look like it was dragged behind a car at a demolition derby.
My JBLP Gold Top was my first 'relic' guitar I've ever bought. I never really cared for the concept before, but now I can see that it's a bit like buying a brand new guitar that feels like a second hand guitar - broken in, and plus I am now no t really worried about putting another small ding in a guitar that I paid $4K for...
Hey I like this aging concept...count me in I will gladly use a guitar for 20 years then give it back. Cheers Ron
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One problem with modern Les Pauls (with regard to aging) is the lacquer finish that is now used. Because of environmental/safety concerns, the modern lacquer is formulated differently and has plasticizers and other compounds in it that tend to make for a thicker, rubbery finish. One of the features that allows the 50's guitars to age so beautifully is the thin, hard lacquer coat that, with time, shrinks and becomes worn thinner. The shrinking and expanding of the underlying wood causes the lacquer to check (crack) in interesting patterns, adding to the character of the guitar. It remains to be seen how modern Pauls will age naturally, but I am not sure that they will ever look like the GTs and Bursts from the 50's. Maybe they will, but perhaps it will take longer for the added compounds/solvents to evaporate out of the finish (prolonging/delaying the aging process).
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We can work this out, I get to age your JB-100 though!
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Devan wrote:PSmith1946 wrote:If you want to lend it to me I can age it for you if you give me a long enough period of time. 20 yrs perhaps????
ROFL!! I can see new business opportunities here... 'Realistic' ageing for guitar collectors. Turnaround time approx. 20 years.
I'm with you in that I think that my 'love' for the guitar with cloths, polishes etc. probably causes more wear on the finish than my playing. I've got a 38 year old Les Paul Deluxe that looks nowhere near as beat up as some relics. It doesn't look brand new either, but at least it doesn't look like it was dragged behind a car at a demolition derby.
My JBLP Gold Top was my first 'relic' guitar I've ever bought. I never really cared for the concept before, but now I can see that it's a bit like buying a brand new guitar that feels like a second hand guitar - broken in, and plus I am now no t really worried about putting another small ding in a guitar that I paid $4K for...
Hey I like this aging concept...count me in I will gladly use a guitar for 20 years then give it back. Cheers Ron