Topic: recording 2/3/4 amp setup

Hi
If you have a JB style setup going of serveral amps and different voicing etc what do you guys do for recording this?
i mic centered to get the blend or individual mics and then mix in the mix?
Would be interested to know...

GC

2 (edited by helrazr84 2012-05-19 13:43:15)

Re: recording 2/3/4 amp setup

You should mic each amp separately for starters. Then you can mix the sounds together and pan most of it to one side and keep the bass toward the other side, or pan each amp to its own side. This really is more if you're using a different amp for a different voicing. If the amps are of similar voicings you can slather one with effects and keep it to one side and a dryer signal to the other side.

But really if you were to have a mic centered between the cabs picking up both tone simultaneously, you can get do it that way too. That would work a little better if say you were recording your guitar by itself in a room without other instruments that will bleed into the mic. Example: I did some recordings with a band I was in and we recorded the drums and bass by themselves. Then I did my guitar track alone too. You could even throw 2 mics, EQ'ed differently, in front of the amps a foot or 2 away and go like that.

Basically if you're tracking the guitar by itself without the rest of the band you have much more leeway as to how you can mic everything because you won't have other noise entering the mix. People who run studios have several techniques as to how they mic, record and mix and they all work. Try a few options out and see what you prefer. And even if you do just use a single mic centered between 2 amps, you'll get a decent result pending you can isolate the mic with a shield if you're recording with a band or tracking the guitar by itself. -S

Edit: Especially when beginning a new endeavor, the simpler you keep things the better. When you develop an ear as to what seems to sound or work better while recording, thats when you can have a better understanding as to why and how you should move the mic over, or pan something or add this or that etc.. Its all really trial and error until you find your own likings. I wouldn't split hairs over every little thing when in reality you're not going to necessarily hear a huge difference between different ways of mic placement and remember you can always EQ different setups to sound similar at the end of a project. It is cool to try different things out, so definitely be open to that as well, just don't go overboard or think there is only one way to do the job!

Re: recording 2/3/4 amp setup

many thanks for the detail.

Would it be rite to say that if you have 2 amps one wet and other dry say but you were
putting the guitar solo dead center then one mic my suffice as they sit on top of each other in the mix.
Perhaps the same setup but with seperate mics and then have just a slight seperation either side of center
would widen it out more, guess experimentation is the key but if you have the separate mic then more flexability.

Cheers

Re: recording 2/3/4 amp setup

gcru01 wrote:

Hi
If you have a JB style setup going of serveral amps and different voicing etc what do you guys do for recording this?
i mic centered to get the blend or individual mics and then mix in the mix?
Would be interested to know...

GC

Hi I am not sure of your recording situation but when I record my rig I use Palmer PDI-03 Speaker simulator for each head and mic each individually. Them bring them to protools. Once recorded I play with the mix. So I guess if you are working in a pure studio environment what works for me is using the Palmer PDI-03.
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Re: recording 2/3/4 amp setup

gcru01 wrote:

many thanks for the detail.

Would it be rite to say that if you have 2 amps one wet and other dry say but you were
putting the guitar solo dead center then one mic my suffice as they sit on top of each other in the mix.
Perhaps the same setup but with seperate mics and then have just a slight seperation either side of center
would widen it out more, guess experimentation is the key but if you have the separate mic then more flexability.

Cheers

As far as doing strictly the solo, yes I'd mix it so its centered in the final mix. You can still mic the 2 cabs separately, then listen to them and see how it sounds. You can then play with the volumes of the 2 and maybe you'll find you want to dial back a little of the wet signal (I probably would) and then have them both centered in the final mix. You obviously want the solo to be a bit thicker and prominent so it stands out. I always prefer to have ONLY reverb, OR delay on the "wet" amp and the other dry. In other words, if you're doing 2 amps for the solo make one dry/no effects as your main tone, then mix a bit of another signal with only verb or delay as your complimentary tone. And don't be afraid to make the solo stand out in the mix. Most bands today, if they have a solo in their song its buried in the mix and its like: whats the point?!

Also once you get the solo in (this is just what I do), play the track during the solo and turn the master all the way down. The slowly turn it back up and the first thing you should hear is the solo above all else. Same rule when doing the vocals incidentally. Give that a shot as well. -S

Re: recording 2/3/4 amp setup

thanks again, I am of the same school of making the solo dominant in the mix. gona give this a try as only been recording single amp up to now.