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It IS poitical, appearance or not...and I am not, so...
All I am saying is give peace a chance....
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BFD!!!! This was too effing political and self-serving! Give me a break! Get your name up on a screen if you text "support"..support my ****, they just want to play on dee drum all day.....wait...me too!!!

Rock On & Get With IT, and have some FAITH rather than scary judgement! I've been doing all that **##, much more for 37+ years.  Don't bust my chops like I don't care, becuase I do and I know the truth, inconveniently clear truth(s) to many who ballywho, whether in denial or not.

by the way I watched it on 2 channels and loved it as much as I couldn't attend any of IT of even worse, this year's Ottawa Bluesfest-WHAT A LINEUP THIS YEAR , or worser, see Joe Bonamassa lately or soon enough...We need another "real" Woodstock.

The concert I saw didn't seem to be political.  Just some great music and great tips to educate the public.  This is about a global effort to help the environment and mankind.  It's about trying to educate the masses as a whole in a grassroots way.  This is to let the rest of the world know that the American public does recognize and wants to help in the solutions to global warming. 

It was great to have the world share in a concert experience.  I got to see Wolfmother and Crowded House playing from Australia, Lenny Kravitz playing from Brazil, and off to never never land with Metallica.

I was so happy to get to see the whole set of Alicia Keys.  Loved her new song and was pleased to see her pick Marvin Gaye's 'Mercy Mercy Me'.   It was written almost 30 years ago but she showed how relevent it still is today.  Which is sad.

One thing that we use that was one of their tips is the compact fluorescent light bulbs.  And Bamboo is being used more and more to make clothes.
 
Also in California, they passed legislation to have a million homes with solar roofs in the next 10 years.
Builders of new homes can offer solar panel roofs as an option to the homebuyer.  Also there are rebate programs to help people install solar panel roofs.  And you can sell excess power you produce back to the power companies for a credit on your bill. They are estimating it will provide 3000 megawatts of additional clean energy and reduce the output of greenhouse gases by 3 million tons, which is equivilant to taking one million cars off the road.

This is such a smart move for a state that has so much Sun.  Its wonderful what innovative technology can do.

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Rocket wrote:

It IS poitical, appearance or not...and I am not, so...
All I am saying is give peace a chance....
Rock On & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

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Rocket wrote:

BFD!!!! This was too effing political and self-serving! Give me a break! Get your name up on a screen if you text "support"..support my ****, they just want to play on dee drum all day.....wait...me too!!!

Rock On & Get With IT, and have some FAITH rather than scary judgement! I've been doing all that **##, much more for 37+ years.  Don't bust my chops like I don't care, becuase I do and I know the truth, inconveniently clear truth(s) to many who ballywho, whether in denial or not.

by the way I watched it on 2 channels and loved it as much as I couldn't attend any of IT of even worse, this year's Ottawa Bluesfest-WHAT A LINEUP THIS YEAR , or worser, see Joe Bonamassa lately or soon enough...We need another "real" Woodstock.

The concert I saw didn't seem to be political.  Just some great music and great tips to educate the public.  This is about a global effort to help the environment and mankind.  It's about trying to educate the masses as a whole in a grassroots way.  This is to let the rest of the world know that the American public does recognize and wants to help in the solutions to global warming. 

It was great to have the world share in a concert experience.  I got to see Wolfmother and Crowded House playing from Australia, Lenny Kravitz playing from Brazil, and off to never never land with Metallica.

I was so happy to get to see the whole set of Alicia Keys.  Loved her new song and was pleased to see her pick Marvin Gaye's 'Mercy Mercy Me'.   It was written almost 30 years ago but she showed how relevent it still is today.  Which is sad.

One thing that we use that was one of their tips is the compact fluorescent light bulbs.  And Bamboo is being used more and more to make clothes.
 
Also in California, they passed legislation to have a million homes with solar roofs in the next 10 years.
Builders of new homes can offer solar panel roofs as an option to the homebuyer.  Also there are rebate programs to help people install solar panel roofs.  And you can sell excess power you produce back to the power companies for a credit on your bill. They are estimating it will provide 3000 megawatts of additional clean energy and reduce the output of greenhouse gases by 3 million tons, which is equivilant to taking one million cars off the road.

This is such a smart move for a state that has so much Sun.  Its wonderful what innovative technology can do.

If it was, as you say, political, what was wrong with what they did?  How is it not good? 
To me not signing the Kyoto Treaty is political.

Also I enjoy your comments but don't quite understand  " and I am not."  What are you not?

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I don't care whether it's political or not. As long as it rocks. And from what I heard (had to work), it was pretty cool.

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Well I agree, I don't care as long as it rocks, but someone HAS to separate the wheat from the chaff...4 frigging individual personal busses (not equipment) for separate travel by Dave Matthews Band??? Yes I like them and burning cash and carbon to see them, but Talk about hypocrisy (yes me too)!  All the flying and  kilowatts and other stuff....Just a concert for the best Peace We Can Do...Maybe musicians should be like troubadours of old and carry their guitar in a gunny sack and hit the road jack...75% couldn't do it, 23% could try and would be able to at first only to find out they aren't "into" it that much...2% could handle "don't live anywhere, I live everywhere, the road is my home (on foot)".  Joe Bonamassa could and would do it I believe.

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I don't care whether it's political or not. As long as it rocks. And from what I heard (had to work), it was pretty cool.

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But frankly I'd love to see Joe Bonamassa have a Lear Jet, Football Team and 1.21 Gigawatts of Power, and it's pushing overload....

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Rocket wrote:

But frankly I'd love to see Joe Bonamassa have a Lear Jet, Football Team and 1.21 Gigawatts of Power, and it's pushing overload....

Rock On & Keep the Faith,
Rocket

BFD!!!

I agree with Deez -

Power is made to be used up. The politics of the event was simply looking for support to rally for some cleaner methods of power.  I personally do not think much of Al Gore - but if it takes some political issues to get THESE kinds of lineups on TV or whereever to view in concert, I'll give it a listen. It breaks my heart to hear Dave Grohl kiss Al's butt.

The part I thought was ok about it was that "pledging" didn't mean you give MONEY. You basically support being more energy & waste responsible, and make a promise. Nobody can hold you to it.

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Well I agree, I don't care as long as it rocks, but someone HAS to separate the wheat from the chaff...4 frigging individual personal busses (not equipment) for separate travel by Dave Matthews Band??? Yes I like them and burning cash and carbon to see them, but Talk about hypocrisy (yes me too)!  All the flying and  kilowatts and other stuff....Just a concert for the best Peace We Can Do...Maybe musicians should be like troubadours of old and carry their guitar in a gunny sack and hit the road jack...75% couldn't do it, 23% could try and would be able to at first only to find out they aren't "into" it that much...2% could handle "don't live anywhere, I live everywhere, the road is my home (on foot)".  Joe Bonamassa could and would do it I believe.

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I don't care whether it's political or not. As long as it rocks. And from what I heard (had to work), it was pretty cool.

4 individual buses is a bit extreme.  There were groups there that use bio-diesel fuel for their buses.  It seemed the musicians were also learning from just being at the concert.  As far as all the flying and kilowatts for the concert, that energy would be used anyway in everyday life with doing there own concerts.  Except this energy was used for a good cause. 

Hopefully people can take away with them some great music and some great information just to get people to move in the right direction.  I applaud Al Gore for putting this together as a global effort and being an educator and leader on this very important issue.

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Yep!
Nothing brings people together like music.
Great idea to get the message across.
The energy used had occured to me, but everyone traveling to one place to see many instead of traveling multiple times to see them individually has to count for something.
Julie in Green Bay

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Why not just get in one studio / outdoor park, take over all the airwaves at once and drone the messages into our skulls? It's all a smokescreen... Biofuels aren't that great of a deal, takes lotsa of carbon to eek out them...every little bit DOES help, I am not totally cynical... but public transportation-not mentioned, pooh-poohed in our lifestyle.  Joe's in Italy whre you can travel the whole country easily and cheaply by train, and they do-try traveling by train cheaply here!...when was he last time ya walked somewhere (yes 3 miles is "close") for a purpose (even the dude on the cigarette commercials past would walk a mile for a Camel), not a family bike ride for fun and 2-3  hours is not "long" in the "no time" excuse world...Priorities need to change universally more than candidates or their agenda or "goals"...too many people taking big chunks and selling the crumbs too so the needy don't catch a break...put these lousy so and so's into jail and their fraudulently obtained funds devalued by swiping their money while they are in jail by charging them exhorbitant fees for the "privelege" of incarceration....No one said a thing about slowing the hell down on the highways, genocide in Darfour and AIDS still deadly bad in Africa...Happy Feet opened more eyes than "Al Gore's" movie, where's all them UFO guys when we need them assuming they are peaceful, and oh yeah, digital still sucks.

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P.S.-I got a message from John Lennon (wherever he may actually may be, and I can't imagine where if I imagine there's no Heaven) because  I called out his Give Peace A Chance mantra, and he says that "Chipping in is what it's all about, that plus the Hokey-Pokey, if your bloody limbs haven't been sacrificed".

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Dear Rocket, I understand your cynicism and I think you make some good points. I also had reservations re the energy needed to make bio-fuel, but the process has been modified and is more efficient now. I read in the local paper that farmers in my area are enjoying an increase in corn prices because of it. Bravo as family farms are an endangered species these days. An increased interest in alternative fuel (solar, wind) is also a byproduct. I can't say this was driven by anything other than the price of oil, (just like during the Carter Administration), but at least it's happening. Not in my Backyard, that's America's mantra. We are the biggest consumers and polluters on this planet. We also want everything to be the easiest and fastest and cheapest, etc... I think the concert being on all continents was a way to remind viewers of their global community. There is no American only air! As for the other world issues, we've become numb. It's all too ugly , scary, and far away. People don't realize the power of their vote and their pocketbooks. It can all be overwhelming I know! Education remains the answer in my opinion, and I will continue to laud Al Gore's movie because it showed that the climate crisis is happening now. It's hard for people to deny pictures of glaciers that don't exist anymore. Eternally optimistic, I will continue to do my part and remain cognizant of my footprint on this planet. Your friend in Peace, Cathy

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I am just in rant mode lately because of another prime of life death in the family...I shouldn't even be alive and I can't stand people with no gratitude or concern for everyone-including their enemies...Hell the name of a group called War sang "Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..."? Nobody can give me a good answer to that, certainly not an "ex"...I am all for farmers getting their due, my family (not me immediate family wise)farm went down the tubes as Farm Aid was right on time for many, and right on still to this day, but it was too late for my uncle...Consumerism may be our biggest problem, and that's where the relevance of this so-called global climate crisis is centered, not weather climate, but attitude climate!  We don't have to all worship the same, live the same, eat the same, enjoy the same, BE THE SAME, but we ALL do need to be the SANE Brothers & Sisters.  We don't have to even all like each other, but we do need global Sanitation with the emphasis on SANITY...the alternative only fuels destruction and it really doesn't matter from whence or how or from "whom" that destruction comes from as much as a universal understanding that it will indeed come...Kids going and blowing people away has as much to do with this via their ALIENATION and every person has to realize that we are responsible for each other and to each other and that means reaching out. There is no excuse to rape in huge profits on others backs and trample on a fragile human's psyche and not give them physical, mental, spiritual healing, heck just encouragement would suffice, either with nominal or totally without charges.  Change is life's only constant, an oxymoron I rise daily to pitifully attempt to learn only to find it is too much for me, feeling as if I have to change EVERYTHING or NOTHING...Kinda where political divisiveness and the feckless morass we can all sink into by taking passage on the Titanic ship of Arrogant Fools we can be lies...Not sure we are the worst polluters, believe we are not, but we are not the "best" either-what would that take to be the best polluter on the planet??? Farts without smell? For a final attempt at "looking at the bright side", glaciers that have melted gave us some pretty fine and beautiful lakes, but that picture on the Smashing Pumkin's new album (Zeitgeist-nicely relevent title!) should make people shudder for one reason or another...whether global warming climate change or sinking freedom...we don't need to mope that maybe our Liberty Bell cracked during it's original trial run, or that the repair can't last forever because our grand experiment exploded for better or worse in the chemistry laboratory of life's little lessons...Let's just declare war is the only thing worth fighting against and Peace is the process of progression towards SOMETHING, ANYTHING, BETTER-for everyone, and no one can disagree with something that decent and good!

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Rocket
p.s.-another cousin same family, too early to cancer, still an insidious disease without cure...

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Dear Rocket, I understand your cynicism and I think you make some good points. I also had reservations re the energy needed to make bio-fuel, but the process has been modified and is more efficient now. I read in the local paper that farmers in my area are enjoying an increase in corn prices because of it. Bravo as family farms are an endangered species these days. An increased interest in alternative fuel (solar, wind) is also a byproduct. I can't say this was driven by anything other than the price of oil, (just like during the Carter Administration), but at least it's happening. Not in my Backyard, that's America's mantra. We are the biggest consumers and polluters on this planet. We also want everything to be the easiest and fastest and cheapest, etc... I think the concert being on all continents was a way to remind viewers of their global community. There is no American only air! As for the other world issues, we've become numb. It's all too ugly, scary, and far away. People don't realize the power of their vote and their pocketbooks. It can all be overwhelming I know! Education remains the answer in my opinion, and I will continue to laud Al Gore's movie because it showed that the climate crisis is happening now. It's hard for people to deny pictures of glaciers that don't exist anymore. Eternally optimistic, I will continue to do my part and remain cognizant of my footprint on this planet. Your friend in Peace, Cathy

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Dear Rocket. I'm sorry for your loss. Death has been my constant companion thru life. (there's an oxymoron!). My mom flew back from Alaska 8 months pregnant with me because her dad died. I remember a long period of deaths probably heightened by the assassination of JFK, MLK, Bobby, Viet Nam....By 21 I had lost a husband, my father, many...so I've been an RN for 34 years. Critical Care and Hospice. I can't say death is good, I can just say it's inevitable. And while sudden death is "easiest" for the deceased, it's hardest for their survivors. I hope that your friend had end of life care that provided comfort and dignity. I can say grief is eased some for those that are able to make peace and say good-bye to their loved one. Enough of me being a "downer". Just the reason I cherish every moment and every experience! Joy to ya........Cathy