To Watch This Video You Must Share It First (Page 3 of 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TaAsoga5o

I'll not only cut you some slack, I'll give you "no slack" from one of my favorite CDs.  Enjoy.  You can also have some of my Fancy Feast to Jim  

If I am a bit harsh it's just I know the meaning behind marketing. I am more savvy in how the business world and marketing operates.

And see this as a new trend that may look trustworthy, but you never know.
Especially when you have to be careful with what you forward to friends.

If I can't see it first, how do I REALLY KNOW what is on the video you are asking me to forward? 

Just because you told me. I get told a lot of things that are not true in marketing.

From this experience I will always delete these Watch to Share, because I have no idea what is on the video.

The Facebook and Twitter generation thrives at not being private and is a marketing tool in itself.

I am  saying just because it looks like a smart idea, it doesn't mean it is the right consciously way to do it. Maybe just take that into consideration also?

The Share to Watch concept really to me has it backwards. 

I think Watch to Share is a more customer friendly way of doing business.

Some of the people marketing need to see my 'how nice is Joe' thread and listen to his interview and his 'Edmund Hillary' concept. They can then decide if that type of marketing is correct or not. I know the interview is 2008 but can't see his views have changed.

We are all team players for the most part here and we represent the team but we have to have some help now and again. At the end of the day if Joe has egg on his face over anything he is the one that must ware it in public. Just trying to avoid that from happening like you and the majority of the forum family.

I believe Strongly in the spiritual principle of "Attraction Rather Than Promotion."  It is a gut level difference in me and so many others.  I have often grumbled about that fundamental difference in attitude, after dealing with some members of the Boca Camp.

It is misguided, at best.  I don't think it's evil so to speak, but a reminder that all of us are in a service business, might be in order.  It worries me when people just aren't good to one another.  I see how y'all treated me in my time of need and how we treat Rocket...

That love & respect contrasts sharply with some of the stuff I see coming out of the fast crowd faction of the home office.  I don't like it.

We can promote without being surly.

MuchCalm
FDOL

Although I appreciate and value the latitude we've been given to vent and purge here, I think we're getting away from the intent of my initial post.

If someone wants to start a new thread to discuss the pros and cons of JBXP and/or marketing in general, I'd suggest they do that.

As for the issue of requiring fans to share a video before being able to view it, I think our message has been sent and received, loud and clear. Since I started this mess, I suggest we close this one down and move on.

What you say, Jim?

I hope this does get closed....before it does, I need to state the following:  While I have met and seen examples of so many nice people associated with Joe....from people at J&R like Alexis, Alex, Michelle...and others...to forum member who have gone out of their way to...for example....send me an autographed cd because I lost mine at the concert.  Equally important....I've met and talked to Joe at least 10 times in the past 16 months and each and every time he has been nothing less then gracious, accomodating, friendly, and genuinely cares about his fans.  To round out the whole experience, each of the guys...Tal, Carmine, and Rick have been just incredible.  So...besides the amazing music, I can't begin to imagine shutting Joe out simply because of a few JBXP members.  Please remember...Joe is very busy....and still...when he can, he takes time to visit the forum and make comments.  For me, I feel very blessed to have been introduced to his music and all that's happened since.....and I will forever be a very dedicated fan.....ans I hope you change your mind.

Well....takes a deep breath....all of you know me know that I am not a fan of censorship, or of closing topics unless there is a really good reason to do so. (I am voicing my own opinion, Jim may disagree.)

So, while I understand your fears Stu, I hope that this topic can either die a natural death or, possibly with an amended title, continue as a general 'moan' or 'complaint' thread - without overstepping the general standards that we tend to adhere to around here! I understand why Pearl posted here after doing a search for JBXP, this is where you wind up.

Pearl, I agree with Bill's comment that you are, sadly, indeed throwing out the baby with the bathwater. You withdrawing your 'support' from Joe because you are unhappy with how one or more employees of J&R manifest themselves on JBXP, seems to me to be a gesture that is both misplaced and futile.

Even though I have not shared your recent experiences, I understand your points, and would have reacted with the same distaste to censorship and deletions.  Like some others here on the forum, I realized quite some time ago that the direction XP was heading in was not somewhere that I wanted to go, so I simply stopped going there.

You are clearly articulate and passionate, and sound like you would fit in fine here. This forum is a very different place to XP, and yes, there has always been an undercurrent of 'us' and 'them' because many people here have been following Joe, and posting on his forum, for a decade or more now!  Naturally, people like that cannot help but feel and react differently to lots of the new developments in JB world than people who are just discovering Joe. It's the nature of the beast.

If you don't like XP (any more), just don't go there. That's no reason to 'take it out' on Joe by deciding you're no longer 'into' him. Do you really think that with everything that Joe has to deal with while touring the world, he's also got time to keep tabs on what all the people who work for J&R in one capacity or another are saying or doing on the web? Of course not.

In conclusion, I think that Pearl has raised an issue that others have previously already hinted at. I'm sure that Roy, for example, would certainly like to know if the remarks and actions of certain J&R employees are leading to significant numbers of defections from JBXP. Although, it is also in the nature of the interwebz beast that some people will, at some point, no longer visit certain sites that they previously spent a lot of time on.

I apologize for the length, but at least I"ve got paragraphs.

Whatever you guys decide is fine by me.

I was unaware of the negative JBXP vibe. It's been an education following this thread for sure. I'm somewhat confused by what sounds like such a different perspective there; I thought everything was pretty much administered by the same core group of folks. I'm not an active XP'er so I'm blissfully ignorant :-)

And Pearl, with a name and Avatar like that, you gotta stick around!!