Topic: The Grammys-songs I will never listen to

I took a look at the Grammy nominated records of the year tonight.

After taking a listen to each song, I have never remembered seeing a more pathetic list of songs ever nominated.  Mumford and Sons, Bruno Mars, Bon Iver. yikes

Firework with Katy Perry and that song has 269,047,031 views.  Her singing is so grating I can't even listen to the whole song.  Can you be more out of tune.  Well yes, you could be Rhianna.

Who in the music business would vote for this kind of crap with all the songs out there?
These musicians names should be listed and why they vote for this as the best.  I can't even phantom a reason these would even be on a list.

These should actually be more of the worst songs for 2011.  Stupid lyrics and god awful singers rule the airwaves now as evidence by this list of the best?

You have Raphael Saadiq "Good Man" nominated for best R and B song.  That song puts your stupid Records of the Year to shame, shame,  shame, with the genius the way the man writes, sings, plays and greatly produced song.  You can't nominate that song for song of the year.  Also some of the best background vocals EVER arranged and recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeKaHBMKows&ob=av2e


With this batch, every song in the 60's and 70s should have been nominated for Record of the Year!

"Holy Toledo"  -  Bill King   "Just Win Baby" - Al Davis  "The Autumn Wind" - Steve Sabol

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Enough said. Shame on them...

Come on the Blades (sorry Idolbone just had to borrow your line)

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The RiverCat^-^ wrote:

I took a look at the Grammy nominated records of the year tonight.

After taking a listen to each song, I have never remembered seeing a more pathetic list of songs ever nominated.  Mumford and Sons, Bruno Mars, Bon Iver. yikes

Firework with Katy Perry and that song has 269,047,031 views.  Her singing is so grating I can't even listen to the whole song.  Can you be more out of tune.  Well yes, you could be Rhianna.

Who in the music business would vote for this kind of crap with all the songs out there?
These musicians names should be listed and why they vote for this as the best.  I can't even phantom a reason these would even be on a list.

These should actually be more of the worst songs for 2011.  Stupid lyrics and god awful singers rule the airwaves now as evidence by this list of the best?

You have Raphael Saadiq "Good Man" nominated for best R and B song.  That song puts your stupid Records of the Year to shame, shame,  shame, with the genius the way the man writes, sings, plays and greatly produced song.  You can't nominate that song for song of the year.  Also some of the best background vocals EVER arranged and recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeKaHBMKows&ob=av2e


With this batch, every song in the 60's and 70s should have been nominated for Record of the Year!

I've got that song and a number of others by Raphael.  Imo he's one of R&B's brighter stars, but I've read a number of reviews where he's been ripped for being too old school.  Todays young listeners, for better or worse (it's all worse), don't seem to be too concerned with substance.  Its all become image first, second and third.  The Grammys used to have some relevance, but nowadays is just a tool for the powers that be that tell us what to listen to.  Saw yesterday where Jesse Jackson's complaining too......must be time to flush the toilet.

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Curby wrote:
The RiverCat^-^ wrote:

I took a look at the Grammy nominated records of the year tonight.

After taking a listen to each song, I have never remembered seeing a more pathetic list of songs ever nominated.  Mumford and Sons, Bruno Mars, Bon Iver. yikes

Firework with Katy Perry and that song has 269,047,031 views.  Her singing is so grating I can't even listen to the whole song.  Can you be more out of tune.  Well yes, you could be Rhianna.

Who in the music business would vote for this kind of crap with all the songs out there?
These musicians names should be listed and why they vote for this as the best.  I can't even phantom a reason these would even be on a list.

These should actually be more of the worst songs for 2011.  Stupid lyrics and god awful singers rule the airwaves now as evidence by this list of the best?

You have Raphael Saadiq "Good Man" nominated for best R and B song.  That song puts your stupid Records of the Year to shame, shame,  shame, with the genius the way the man writes, sings, plays and greatly produced song.  You can't nominate that song for song of the year.  Also some of the best background vocals EVER arranged and recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeKaHBMKows&ob=av2e


With this batch, every song in the 60's and 70s should have been nominated for Record of the Year!

I've got that song and a number of others by Raphael.  Imo he's one of R&B's brighter stars, but I've read a number of reviews where he's been ripped for being too old school.  Todays young listeners, for better or worse (it's all worse), don't seem to be too concerned with substance.  Its all become image first, second and third.  The Grammys used to have some relevance, but nowadays is just a tool for the powers that be that tell us what to listen to.  Saw yesterday where Jesse Jackson's complaining too......must be time to flush the toilet.

Yes it's about image.  And a tool to tell us what to listen too. By giving us these crappy songs this year it ruins the reputation of the Grammy.  It's worthless.

I'd like to meet whoever has a problem with Raphael being Too old school. They don't know Diddley.  Oh he should be more modern and ripping off beats like Rap does? Raphael blends old school with newer contemporary beats and lyrics.  Where was the word "Check" in  old school.  What he does with that word in "Good Man" is fresh.  And if his music is great like he makes it, that is what matters.

And if you feed youngsters this kind of garbage as the best, that is all they are going to know. 

That is why the Grammys who make it their job to give awards to the best music, should take a look at artists who may not be as popular.  They could be the ones to educate the public to music that is done to a higher standard.  Instead of giving it to the same "media darlings".  They need to get a higher level of musicians and experts in NARAS to vote because then you may be getting music that is at least close to deserving it.  Eric Gales wipes the floor with these fools.

"Holy Toledo"  -  Bill King   "Just Win Baby" - Al Davis  "The Autumn Wind" - Steve Sabol

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Grammys,just a commercial for the "music"biz ie major labels.Its always been that way.Back in the good ol days they had better music being made.Music taste change with each generation.Its too bad that so much of what's put out there by the "biz" is catchy enough to draw in the younger generation.One might wonder if music will ever be back to having great musicians or bands popular again.
  I'm not a fan of hip hop,but there have been some critically acclaimed cds put out over the years.Dr Dre's the Cronic,Public Enemy,Beastie Boys ect.I don't even see that now adays.It the whole American Idol. Let's make a star.Find a super attractive person,hire some catchy beat doctors to make a catchy song and away you go.
  I think the real music can be found being made by bands playing your local venues.Some good some not.That's a longer road to hoe to make it as a musician.Joe is an example of that.
  It amazes me that blues and blues rock,which has less than a hiccup mentioned in the Grammys,has such a quantity of never ending great artists/bands.This forum has mention of what seems to be a never endind supply of great music.My question is that the blues and blues rock music seems to be supported mostly by an somewhat older audience.Is or will there be enough of a younger audience to support this music in the future 20 years from now?

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I don't usually pay too much attention to the Grammys, but this year, due to a fellow Brit predicted to clean up, due to her album '21' - I'll be watching & cheering her on!
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gary wrote:

Grammys,just a commercial for the "music"biz ie major labels.Its always been that way.Back in the good ol days they had better music being made.Music taste change with each generation.Its too bad that so much of what's put out there by the "biz" is catchy enough to draw in the younger generation.One might wonder if music will ever be back to having great musicians or bands popular again.
  I'm not a fan of hip hop,but there have been some critically acclaimed cds put out over the years.Dr Dre's the Cronic,Public Enemy,Beastie Boys ect.I don't even see that now adays.It the whole American Idol. Let's make a star.Find a super attractive person,hire some catchy beat doctors to make a catchy song and away you go.
  I think the real music can be found being made by bands playing your local venues.Some good some not.That's a longer road to hoe to make it as a musician.Joe is an example of that.
  It amazes me that blues and blues rock,which has less than a hiccup mentioned in the Grammys,has such a quantity of never ending great artists/bands.This forum has mention of what seems to be a never endind supply of great music.My question is that the blues and blues rock music seems to be supported mostly by an somewhat older audience.Is or will there be enough of a younger audience to support this music in the future 20 years from now?


Good question there at the end.  I don't think interest in the blues will end anytime soon, but (imo) its heyday has come and gone.  It's like Big Band/Swing music was for my parents - it's still around in 2012, but now it's more of a novelty rather than a thriving genre.  The Blues will be that way in 20 years (unfortunately) with the passing of my generation.

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Curby wrote:
gary wrote:

Grammys,just a commercial for the "music"biz ie major labels.Its always been that way.Back in the good ol days they had better music being made.Music taste change with each generation.Its too bad that so much of what's put out there by the "biz" is catchy enough to draw in the younger generation.One might wonder if music will ever be back to having great musicians or bands popular again.
  I'm not a fan of hip hop,but there have been some critically acclaimed cds put out over the years.Dr Dre's the Cronic,Public Enemy,Beastie Boys ect.I don't even see that now adays.It the whole American Idol. Let's make a star.Find a super attractive person,hire some catchy beat doctors to make a catchy song and away you go.
  I think the real music can be found being made by bands playing your local venues.Some good some not.That's a longer road to hoe to make it as a musician.Joe is an example of that.
  It amazes me that blues and blues rock,which has less than a hiccup mentioned in the Grammys,has such a quantity of never ending great artists/bands.This forum has mention of what seems to be a never endind supply of great music.My question is that the blues and blues rock music seems to be supported mostly by an somewhat older audience.Is or will there be enough of a younger audience to support this music in the future 20 years from now?


Good question there at the end.  I don't think interest in the blues will end anytime soon, but (imo) its heyday has come and gone.  It's like Big Band/Swing music was for my parents - it's still around in 2012, but now it's more of a novelty rather than a thriving genre.  The Blues will be that way in 20 years (unfortunately) with the passing of my generation.

That is a real possibility Curby.I think you could have said the same thing in the disco era.Tjhen SRV came along.I have always held out hope that someone(why not Joe) could bring blues based music back into the mainstream,You never know.Bands like Led Zep seem to still get a listen and haven't gone by the wayside.Henrix too.
I think sometimes that blues has an appeal as one matures.To me its not teenage music.By the time your in your 30's you may be looking for something more.Not that you completely dismiss the music of your youth,but look to expand tastes more.I think blues and soul music can fill that void.Maybe jazz and classical for others.

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Your hard sweet and sticky

9 (edited by ohiodawg13 2012-01-29 16:46:54)

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There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to the ebb and flow of certain genres. SRV and Robert Cray gave blues/bluesrock a real boost in the early '80's much like Alison Kraus & Union Station did for Bluegrass in the '90's. As
Joe's popularity grows he could be the one to contribute the next transfusion into the blues. A genre that needs help is rock, I don't even know what rock is any more.....anybody?.....HELP!!!

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ummmm, once again a thread that blows off anything a bit different by putting all into the one basket. I make no apology for having a different opinion of one of those named: Mumford and sons, - brilliant band who have crossed over from a folk background into some sort of mainstream acceptance, - and for the only reason that they have become popular they then get slatted for winning awards.... A band who write their own songs based on traditional music, - a band who work hard touring....a band who play well live:

(warning f-bomb lyrics)

http://youtu.be/jJkSmErWc20

Folk based music is as far off the radar as blues these days (well it is over here in the UK), - it may well not be to everyone's taste but if something like this can get recognition then there is hope for Joe. - Well that is how I see it.

My YouTube channel with plenty of my Joe's videos dating from 2009 inc his first Hammersmith Odeon ones:
http://www.youtube.com/ian916fun

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Hi Rivercat,

Just in case you didn't read this Katy Perry info I posted under radio...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/01/ … fect-game.

This just gave me an idea, I think I'm going to start putting a $1.00 bill in a jar every time I think of my father-in-law's famous line, if it doesn't make sense money is behind it!!! This will be a solid savings plan with all the wild & crazy spending going on...and my father-in-law will be laughing his a$$ off from above. lol

gary-about teenage music and the blues~I know what you mean, but it is very interesting how the Black Keys have captured that youth market! And relative to my own kids in the 19-23 year old range, the middle kid has really gotten into the whole soul, funk genre (expanding his taste). I was pleasantly surprised to find a very cool compilation he made in my car CD player from the Christmas break. I have to tell you, I don't know who the artists are, but some of the new music I hear the 2 younger ones listening to have a real dance groove going on.

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Angela wrote:

Hi Rivercat,

Just in case you didn't read this Katy Perry info I posted under radio...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/01/ … fect-game.

This just gave me an idea, I think I'm going to start putting a $1.00 bill in a jar every time I think of my father-in-law's famous line, if it doesn't make sense money is behind it!!! This will be a solid savings plan with all the wild & crazy spending going on...and my father-in-law will be laughing his a$$ off from above. lol

gary-about teenage music and the blues~I know what you mean, but it is very interesting how the Black Keys have captured that youth market! And relative to my own kids in the 19-23 year old range, the middle kid has really gotten into the whole soul, funk genre (expanding his taste). I was pleasantly surprised to find a very cool compilation he made in my car CD player from the Christmas break. I have to tell you, I don't know who the artists are, but some of the new music I hear the 2 younger ones listening to have a real dance groove going on.

That's cool your kids are expanding tastes.I recall listening/liking a lot of different styles of music at college because of being exposed to them from friends and hanging out with different types of music being played.
I look at the Black Keys and before them the White  Stripes having that blues edge thing  going on.You would think that that audience could get into Joe's music too.

Your rock candy baby
Your hard sweet and sticky

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Ian916 wrote:

ummmm, once again a thread that blows off anything a bit different by putting all into the one basket. I make no apology for having a different opinion of one of those named: Mumford and sons, - brilliant band who have crossed over from a folk background into some sort of mainstream acceptance, - and for the only reason that they have become popular they then get slatted for winning awards.... A band who write their own songs based on traditional music, - a band who work hard touring....a band who play well live:

(warning f-bomb lyrics)

http://youtu.be/jJkSmErWc20

Folk based music is as far off the radar as blues these days (well it is over here in the UK), - it may well not be to everyone's taste but if something like this can get recognition then there is hope for Joe. - Well that is how I see it.

I will agree with you on your whole assessment of Mumford and Sons.I enjoyed them on 2011 Grammy show.Not something I would buy,but appreciate their talent and songwritig.

Your rock candy baby
Your hard sweet and sticky

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Ian916 wrote:

ummmm, once again a thread that blows off anything a bit different by putting all into the one basket. I make no apology for having a different opinion of one of those named: Mumford and sons, - brilliant band who have crossed over from a folk background into some sort of mainstream acceptance, - and for the only reason that they have become popular they then get slatted for winning awards.... A band who write their own songs based on traditional music, - a band who work hard touring....a band who play well live:

(warning f-bomb lyrics)

http://youtu.be/jJkSmErWc20

Folk based music is as far off the radar as blues these days (well it is over here in the UK), - it may well not be to everyone's taste but if something like this can get recognition then there is hope for Joe. - Well that is how I see it.

If you like Mumford & Sons I recommend you give The Avett Brothers a listen.

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Ian916 wrote:

ummmm, once again a thread that blows off anything a bit different by putting all into the one basket. I make no apology for having a different opinion of one of those named: Mumford and sons, - brilliant band who have crossed over from a folk background into some sort of mainstream acceptance, - and for the only reason that they have become popular they then get slatted for winning awards.... A band who write their own songs based on traditional music, - a band who work hard touring....a band who play well live:

(warning f-bomb lyrics)

http://youtu.be/jJkSmErWc20

Folk based music is as far off the radar as blues these days (well it is over here in the UK), - it may well not be to everyone's taste but if something like this can get recognition then there is hope for Joe. - Well that is how I see it.

You didn't read my thread correctly.  It was nothing about anything about blowing off something that is a bit different.  It was about the quality of songs that are nominated for Best Song of the Year. 

I don't care what Genre they are from as long as they are great songs.  Put a classical song in there, if it's memorable, give it to me.

I wasn't talking about Mumford and Sons as a whole, I was talking about that particular song.
And out of all the songs out there, that one is average at best.  No where near great.  The vocals, I agree with their line, "Tie me to a post and block my ears"

Give me this instead, "I'll take Care of You" by Joe and Beth or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoL5xLC4ymQ o

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG87i4yPgKY

and countless others that are out there that is better then what is nominated.

"Holy Toledo"  -  Bill King   "Just Win Baby" - Al Davis  "The Autumn Wind" - Steve Sabol

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The RiverCat^-^ wrote:
Ian916 wrote:

ummmm, once again a thread that blows off anything a bit different by putting all into the one basket. I make no apology for having a different opinion of one of those named: Mumford and sons, - brilliant band who have crossed over from a folk background into some sort of mainstream acceptance, - and for the only reason that they have become popular they then get slatted for winning awards.... A band who write their own songs based on traditional music, - a band who work hard touring....a band who play well live:

(warning f-bomb lyrics)

http://youtu.be/jJkSmErWc20

Folk based music is as far off the radar as blues these days (well it is over here in the UK), - it may well not be to everyone's taste but if something like this can get recognition then there is hope for Joe. - Well that is how I see it.

You didn't read my thread correctly.  It was nothing about anything about blowing off something that is a bit different.  It was about the quality of songs that are nominated for Best Song of the Year. 

I don't care what Genre they are from as long as they are great songs.  Put a classical song in there, if it's memorable, give it to me.

I wasn't talking about Mumford and Sons as a whole, I was talking about that particular song.
And out of all the songs out there, that one is average at best.  No where near great.  The vocals, I agree with their line, "Tie me to a post and block my ears"

Give me this instead, "I'll take Care of You" by Joe and Beth or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoL5xLC4ymQ o

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG87i4yPgKY

and countless others that are out there that is better then what is nominated.

Obviously the cream doesn't always rise to the top.

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What makes any form of music better than others anyway? Come on people, to each his own.

I love the blues and could care less about pop and stuff. But they have their place in the sun too. Should the blues get more attention? Maybe. But part of its mystique is that it isn't mainstream. I've learned to accept all types of songs out there. Even ones that don't make too much sense because to a certain extent they're entertaining. Not in a sustainable sense, but in a more fleeting one.

Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black were put on earth for some reason. LOL.

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dalandan wrote:

What makes any form of music better than others anyway? Come on people, to each his own.

I love the blues and could care less about pop and stuff. But they have their place in the sun too. Should the blues get more attention? Maybe. But part of its mystique is that it isn't mainstream. I've learned to accept all types of songs out there. Even ones that don't make too much sense because to a certain extent they're entertaining. Not in a sustainable sense, but in a more fleeting one.

Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black were put on earth for some reason. LOL.

Nobody said one form of music was more acceptable than another form.  It is about the quality of music. 

I listen to pop, I know that dance music is all the rage now.  How many of those nominated songs this year are you going to listen to 10 years from now. How many times will those songs be covered?

And that counts when you nominate a song for BEST song of the year.  Maybe we should put Rebecca Black's song up for Song of the Year.  Why not, it got a lot of hits on Youtube.  With this kind of talent my Bad Co should have 17 grammys.

Thank God for Soul Music, where it would be a crime to have so many bad singers in one genre.
It's just not acceptable there.

I am not saying you have to be a great singer or can't have your hiccups, but WTH stay in tune, learn how to hold a note, somewhat, if you are a damn professional. Step aside and give the real singers that take pride and hard work in how they sound, the rewards. They earned them.

The mediocrity that is accepted as singing these days, might as well just give a hound dog a microphone.

Instead let's give this guy the mic.  I'll give this guy the RiverCat^-^ grammy for Best Song and Singer.  And he calls himself the "Ghetto Al Jarreau"'.  Man I know what you are talking about.  I'm hearing the beats you laying down when you singing.  I hope one day you get to sing with Al,
one of my favorites of all-time.

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