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This not only affects us but our favorite musicians as well.
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I don't really listen to internet radio, so I am unaffected by this. An observation though: If the CRB wants to shoot themselves (and the musicians they represent) in the foot by implementing rates excessive enough to eliminate this media altogether, then they deserve what they get - no revenue at all. Unless I'm missing something, that seems sorta stupid.
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I never really listen to internet radio, unless it's something that is really important. The sound quality isn't as great as I would want it to be.
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One thing is certain... Mr. Bonamassa isn't being heard on FM radio but is definitely being featured on internet radio stations like live365.com and bellyup4blues.com This is why these stations need to be supported. I myself listen to internet radio all the time - and support it. The music that is played on FM radio is very boring. Am I the only one that feels this way?
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i don't listen to any radio so they all can sink into the ground . all i listen to is live concerts on cd's . i am downloading live shows everyday playing them on the computer so there is no need for radio . anything on the radio you can find live which is a much better version then the studio stuff . so start learning how to download bit torrents and then you won't have to worry about the radio stations dying . just my 2 cents ...joe
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Victor wrote:
One thing is certain... Mr. Bonamassa isn't being heard on FM radio but is definitely being featured on internet radio stations like live365.com and bellyup4blues.com This is why these stations need to be supported. I myself listen to internet radio all the time - and support it. The music that is played on FM radio is very boring. Am I the only one that feels this way?
Hi Victor,
Thanks for posting about this.
I already contacted my Congressmen to pass the " Internet Radio Equality Act". This is such a vital part of the internet. It's wonderful to be able to hear radio from all around the world.
This is such a scam from the Copyright Review Board(CRB). The fee structure and timeline is totally offbase. First of all, they should not be able to charge the stations retroactively to January 2006. That's very unreasonable to ask. That should just not be permitted. Where do they expect them to get the money?This already shows how they want to drive the internet stations out of business. They ask for exhorbitant fees(more than double in 5 years) instead of the reasonable fees that others pay like the satellite radio stations. The double whammy to drive them to bankruptcy.
The whole purpose of the CRB's decision is to drive internet radio out of business. It's not to help the artists out because with the fees so high they are gonna get 0 from bankrupted businesses. And like you said Victor, internet radio plays more of a variety of artists like Joe Bonamassa than FM Radio.
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Oh, I guess I just caught on...this is about FREE radio. Well, like it or not, the world has pretty much gone to "pay as you go", the exceptions being the major tv networks and am/fm radio, and a few others.
I remember when you could get into museums for free! Here in Chicago, you need a small loan if you have a family of four and want to give the kids some culture. This isn't a complaint, just an observation on how things have changed.
Most of the free stuff (especially radio and tv) is inferior, which is why so many people have cable or satellite tv and why satellite radio is growing.
As I said before, I don't understand why the CRB is being so punitive that they will put these internet radio stations out of business, which does nobody (especially the musicians) any good. Maybe internet radio needs to head in the direction of satellite radio and start charging for those services??
I bit the bullet and spent the money for XM about a year and a half ago. Don't necessarily like the monthly charge, but I can listen to what I want.
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8 2007-06-24 11:45:03 (edited by jubbins 2007-06-24 14:53:10)
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Bill S wrote:
Oh, I guess I just caught on...this is about FREE radio. Well, like it or not, the world has pretty much gone to "pay as you go", the exceptions being the major tv networks and am/fm radio, and a few others.
I remember when you could get into museums for free! Here in Chicago, you need a small loan if you have a family of four and want to give the kids some culture. This isn't a complaint, just an observation on how things have changed.
Most of the free stuff (especially radio and tv) is inferior, which is why so many people have cable or satellite tv and why satellite radio is growing.
As I said before, I don't understand why the CRB is being so punitive that they will put these internet radio stations out of business, which does nobody (especially the musicians) any good. Maybe internet radio needs to head in the direction of satellite radio and start charging for those services??
I bit the bullet and spent the money for XM about a year and a half ago. Don't necessarily like the monthly charge, but I can listen to what I want.
That's all great for people that can afford it. I can barely afford to pay for my internet service. I just got into listening to internet radio and would be very disappointed if that were taken away. Internet radio is a great way to get more diverse music to a larger audience. Great for artists like Joe who don't always get a lot air time. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there living on tight budgets also, that can relate to where I am coming from. It would be a shame if all of those people lost this resource as well. Just my 2 cents.
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I bet you can trace the $$$ back to the same people who have tried to control Copyrights, and OUR purchases for the last 100 years. Hint: It's not the artists who produce the works, either!
Same "War" as the one against the old guard record companies, just a different front.
Here's another one: RFID Tags. The big chain stores have been using them to control their inventories, within their stores. But soon it will be possible to "track" where these products are, at all times. Wherever they are. Even though they have been rightfully purchased, and are now "owned" by the consumer.
I'm a big fan of capitalism. But, it works both ways. If I buy something, it's mine. (Sony would argue this point, I'm sure). If I already pay for internet access, then I should be able to access the internet. FM is free, over the airwaves. Why shouldn't the "Internet airways" be the same? I'm not talking about copying everyone's music, and selling it. I'm talking about listening to music with your friends, at home. Even if your friends are in a different place, at the time. Not distributing product. Sharing it. Anyone hosting a site has already paid for the right to do so. At least, it seems simple.
Who exactly is the thief, here?
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I got this in an e-mail today if anyone is interested in signing the petition, etc.
Dear Angela:
On Tuesday, June 26th, you will hear something very different on the XPN web streams. Silence. WXPN will join other Internet radio providers in a “Day of Silence” to protest higher royalty rates expected to go into effect on or after July 15th.
Silence is what Internet radio may sound like after that date because of a royalty rate hike scheduled to go into effect. The new rates could cost WXPN more than $100,000 annually; several times the annual funds raised by business support on the Internet streams. The new rates will also be retroactive for 17 months.
XPN will silence the station’s four streams – XPN, Y-Rock On XPN, XPoNential Radio and Folk Alley. A message will be played asking you to sign an online petition to protest this increase. We’re hoping to receive 5,000 signatures. You can add yours here. http://www.xpn.org/petition/
What this all means for you is that your listening choices will be reduced if these fees go through. XPN will be forced to at least reduce the number of listeners who can access us online at any given time.
We realize that many of our streaming listeners are Members of XPN and have done their part to support online music. This is not only about XPN.
These rates would not only affect us, but many, many other online broadcasters who might not recover. And this will reduce exposure for the artists who need it most.
Thanks for taking a minute to learn more by clicking here and please sign our petition. http://www.xpn.org/inside_xpn/copyright_update.php
Sincerely,
Bruce Warren
XPN, Assistant GM for Programming
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dont care about internet radio as i dont listen to radio when on computer. joe is on xm bluesville every time i turn it on. fm radio has been a lost cause for going on ten years now
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suhl wrote:
dont care about internet radio as i dont listen to radio when on computer. joe is on xm bluesville every time i turn it on. fm radio has been a lost cause for going on ten years now
I cannot stand FM, commercial radio is really commercial music....and I hate commercials.
XM has been decent. JB is on DeepTracks more than he is on Bluesville...both very good stations.
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13 2007-06-27 22:56:07 (edited by Bill S 2007-06-27 22:57:30)
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jubbins wrote:
Bill S wrote:Oh, I guess I just caught on...this is about FREE radio. Well, like it or not, the world has pretty much gone to "pay as you go", the exceptions being the major tv networks and am/fm radio, and a few others.
I remember when you could get into museums for free! Here in Chicago, you need a small loan if you have a family of four and want to give the kids some culture. This isn't a complaint, just an observation on how things have changed.
Most of the free stuff (especially radio and tv) is inferior, which is why so many people have cable or satellite tv and why satellite radio is growing.
As I said before, I don't understand why the CRB is being so punitive that they will put these internet radio stations out of business, which does nobody (especially the musicians) any good. Maybe internet radio needs to head in the direction of satellite radio and start charging for those services??
I bit the bullet and spent the money for XM about a year and a half ago. Don't necessarily like the monthly charge, but I can listen to what I want.That's all great for people that can afford it. I can barely afford to pay for my internet service. I just got into listening to internet radio and would be very disappointed if that were taken away. Internet radio is a great way to get more diverse music to a larger audience. Great for artists like Joe who don't always get a lot air time. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there living on tight budgets also, that can relate to where I am coming from. It would be a shame if all of those people lost this resource as well. Just my 2 cents.
Julie in Green Bay
Yeah,
I don't know what the answer is, my point was that EVERYTHING has become commercialized and nothing is really free anymore. When you stand at the urinals at Cellular Field in Chicago, you have to look at advertisements on the wall in front of you. That seems so WRONG when I'm paying to get into the game, $5 for a hot dog, $6 for a beer. Unfortunately, that's where America is headed as a capitalistic society. MLB doesn't care if I can't afford to pay $6 for a beer, they'll just sell it to the guy in line behind me. To continue the beer analogy, what I wouldn't understand is if they raised the price high enough that NOBODY wanted to buy one (say $50), because then everybody loses (seller and buyer).
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