Topic: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

Hope someone can offer an opinion.  Because I didn't want to drill into the beautiful wood of my cherryburst, I opted for the mounting bracket.  I played this for a couple of months and it just seemed the sustain was reduced.  I decided playing and sound were more important than holes so I mounted it directly.  To me there's a significant diffrence but I was curiousw if anyone else has had a similar experience.
Thanks

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Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

I direct mounted a Bigsby on my old les paul classic.  IMHO your best tone is going to be a stop tail piece and a tom bridge.  My Bigsby thinned my Les Paul out and it was never the same to me after that.  Sold it less then a month later.  I'm sure the mounting brackets thin it out more.

Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

In my opinion a trem will always reduce the sustain of a guitar to some extent because it gives a route for energy from the string to leak away into trem movement and then friction in the trem system will then dissapate this energy as heat.

A proper stop tail doesn't have moving parts that allow oscillation and so the string will vibrate longer.

Whether the small loss of sustain is a proplem is down to the guitar itself, the exact trem in question, the playing environment (amplification volume the guitar is exposed toduring playing for example) and the desires of the guitarist for the instrument.

Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

You will gain and lose by installing a bigsby on your les Paul...  There are ways to do with out drilling holes... I particularly like the sound of the Bigsby..  It adds a shimmer and clarity that is very cool... Plus you cant beat the look of the 5 speed...  But you will loose a little sustain..
Joe B

Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

JBonamassa wrote:

You will gain and lose by installing a bigsby on your les Paul...  There are ways to do with out drilling holes... I particularly like the sound of the Bigsby..  It adds a shimmer and clarity that is very cool... Plus you cant beat the look of the 5 speed...  But you will loose a little sustain..
Joe B

That word 'shimmer' is really good - it's why I would never deck the trem in a strat you loose that aspect of the guitar sound. I think Joe has nailed the guitar voice trade off and then it comes down to what you prefer.

Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

Yes the word is shimmer. None of my Les Pauls have a Bigsby but after playing one in the Gibson trailer a few months back I will have one soon. I would have thought that it would kill the tone but no such thing. To me Joe's Bigsby R8 has the best tone of all of his Guitars. Of course thats just my opinion and it may have something to do with the 58 neck as well.

Anthony

Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

See thats exactly why I deck the bridge on my strat, because I go and play a telecaster and think "man if I had a solid string through body I'd have tons of sustain."  I was once so dedicated to decked bridges I milled a block of 1080 steel with a buddy of mine http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn38 … 250106.jpg The bridge would stay decked with or without the springs!  Plus the steel gave the strings a lot more of a bell like tone.  Anyway some people are into shimmer I'm into a solid note.  Chords I'll just bend the neck a bit if I need shimmer, at least I won't have to retune after I do it.

Re: Loosing sustain in mounting a Bigsby on a LP???

Trems reduce sustain because of the effect on the transference of string vibration. *fixes glasses*