Topic: tips for keeping strings loose

hey everyone:)

wondering if anyone has any tips for keeping their strings nice and slinky so they're easy to bend and generally play with? mine for years have always, after a few days, became hard to bend.

I use ernie ball slinky .10s and i top wrap them.

thanks!

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Practice on a guitar with .011 guage strings then go back to the .010's.  Drop it down a half step.  And last get a compound radius neck so you can bend easy on a 16 in radius and still feel comfy for chords.  Thats the best I got for you, unless your strings age quick due to sweaty hands, if so consider coated strings like Elixers.  My Boomers feel the same 2 months after I install them.  I used to use Ernie Ball but I quite using them after I bought a 10 pack lot that was a bad lot.  The G string would unravel from the ball end in less then a week.  Tried to take them to my local store and even contacted Ernie Ball but nobody would admit that it was defective and I was out of about $35.  I switched to GHS Boomers and I've yet to look back.

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I used Ernie Ball slinky 10's on my LP and top wrap them and they are pretty slinky...I've considered going to 11's but I have like a bunch of packs of 10's still left and I don't want to waste them...

You could try maybe getting a truss rod adjustment or something maybe the tension on the neck is too tight or something...Or maybe just practice bending the strings til your fingers get stronger....

One thing I do is I practice a lot of my runs and licks on my acoustic and I think that helps build finger strength. Then when I go to play electric the strings feel a lot easier to play on.

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AD3THREE - that's an interesting idea ... i do get sweaty hands so using coated strings might be quite beneficial to me ... hadn't thought of that thanks!!

JBFan1 - I don't think finger strength is an issue as i've been playing for nearly 3 years now a couple hours a day ... don't get me wrong, i can bend the strings easy enough even on my bad days but not as comfortably as the first couple of days i put them on - i really want to retain the slinky feel of new strings if it's even possible

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Do you have corrosive sweat?  When I was younger, my sweat had the same effect as the molecular acid blood from the 'Alien' movies...literally used to eat through the metal bits of my guitars.  yikes

Nowadays not so bad, but I got into the habit of thoroughly wiping down my strings after each playing session.  Seemed to help their longevity and also their feel.

Another thing you can try is to use that 'String Eze' spray on your strings every now and then.  Tends to make the entire fretboard seem smoother - but a lot of guitarists hate that.  I tend to use it only when the strings are getting really old, and I really should be changing them but can't be bothered.

I used to use EB Slinky's as well - 10's to 46, but lately changed to nickel strings for a bit of difference.  I like the warmth of the nickel strings, and they seem to last longer, but they seem to 'grind' against the frets when bending which is a bit off putting!

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Devan wrote:

Do you have corrosive sweat?  When I was younger, my sweat had the same effect as the molecular acid blood from the 'Alien' movies...literally used to eat through the metal bits of my guitars.  yikes

Nowadays not so bad, but I got into the habit of thoroughly wiping down my strings after each playing session.  Seemed to help their longevity and also their feel.

Another thing you can try is to use that 'String Eze' spray on your strings every now and then.  Tends to make the entire fretboard seem smoother - but a lot of guitarists hate that.  I tend to use it only when the strings are getting really old, and I really should be changing them but can't be bothered.

I used to use EB Slinky's as well - 10's to 46, but lately changed to nickel strings for a bit of difference.  I like the warmth of the nickel strings, and they seem to last longer, but they seem to 'grind' against the frets when bending which is a bit off putting!

I don't think my sweat is corrosive (at least, i hope not!) but yeah my strings go rusty pretty quickly so maybe giving them a wipe isn't such a bad idea.

I've never liked string cleaning products as they made them too slippy and i found i couldn't bend them without my fingers slipping off.

Hmm I'll give the nickel strings a shot if they last longer and sound better - but i change my strings every 3 weeks or so anyway!

7 (edited by NPB_EST.1979 2011-08-25 12:47:16)

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For "springy" I'm not sure. It seems like the springier the string, the less it will stay in tune. I only get a week or so of "perfect spring/tune" before my strings start getting grungy.

I've tried different things to get my strings not get all gross.
I've tried finger ease and a rag. Just can't get into the habit of using it
the plastic clip with cloth inside to wipe up and down the fretboard.... same problem... can't get into the habit.
Fast Fret.. I don't like how it feels.
Changing strings when needed seems like the only option I'm willing to abide.

Brandwise?
I've been using Ernie Ball 10 reg. slinky on anything Gibson and D'Addario 10's on my PRS and Fender strats. For some reason, I tend to favor EB on the Gibbys and D'A's on Fenders... hmm no rhyme or reason or than voodoo and preference.

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8 (edited by gsj 2011-08-26 04:02:24)

Re: tips for keeping strings loose

Jlowther wrote:
Devan wrote:

Do you have corrosive sweat?  When I was younger, my sweat had the same effect as the molecular acid blood from the 'Alien' movies...literally used to eat through the metal bits of my guitars.  yikes

Nowadays not so bad, but I got into the habit of thoroughly wiping down my strings after each playing session.  Seemed to help their longevity and also their feel.

Another thing you can try is to use that 'String Eze' spray on your strings every now and then.  Tends to make the entire fretboard seem smoother - but a lot of guitarists hate that.  I tend to use it only when the strings are getting really old, and I really should be changing them but can't be bothered.

I used to use EB Slinky's as well - 10's to 46, but lately changed to nickel strings for a bit of difference.  I like the warmth of the nickel strings, and they seem to last longer, but they seem to 'grind' against the frets when bending which is a bit off putting!

I don't think my sweat is corrosive (at least, i hope not!) but yeah my strings go rusty pretty quickly so maybe giving them a wipe isn't such a bad idea.

I've never liked string cleaning products as they made them too slippy and i found i couldn't bend them without my fingers slipping off.

Hmm I'll give the nickel strings a shot if they last longer and sound better - but i change my strings every 3 weeks or so anyway!

Errr, you are using nickel, that's what Ernie Ball Regular Slinky's are, well, they're nickel wound to be precise smile . Try stainless steel or D'Addario or, as has been mentioned, a coated string (it might deaden your tone a little though - depends on your ears). I use D'Addario and change strings for every gig.

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I've used the optima gold strings on my LP - I liked them, they don't feel coated and they don't corrode.  big_smile

10 (edited by jetpilot 2011-08-27 21:14:31)

Re: tips for keeping strings loose

Jlowther wrote:

hey everyone:)

wondering if anyone has any tips for keeping their strings nice and slinky so they're easy to bend and generally play with? mine for years have always, after a few days, became hard to bend.

I use ernie ball slinky .10s and i top wrap them.

thanks!

The reason being that the first three days your stretching the strings to the point they won't stretch anymore. Once you reach that point the feel of the string will be different. The stretched out string is the normal feel. Not the first three days. If your playing every day for an hour or so you should be changing your strings once a week. It's seems excessive but it's about as long as they will last and retain a nice tone.

11 (edited by gsj 2011-08-28 06:50:39)

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jetpilot wrote:
Jlowther wrote:

hey everyone:)

wondering if anyone has any tips for keeping their strings nice and slinky so they're easy to bend and generally play with? mine for years have always, after a few days, became hard to bend.

I use ernie ball slinky .10s and i top wrap them.

thanks!

The reason being that the first three days your stretching the strings to the point they won't stretch anymore. Once you reach that point the feel of the string will be different. The stretched out string is the normal feel. Not the first three days. If your playing every day for an hour or so you should be changing your strings once a week. It's seems excessive but it's about as long as they will last and retain a nice tone.

If you stretch the strings correctly when you first put them on it'll take about 10 to 15 minutes, not three days Jetpilot. I'm guessing you put the strings on and just tune them to pitch - and then find you have to keep repeating the process until they settle down over a period of days? You need to pull them gently but fairly firmly away from the fingerboard (not enough to break them  smile ) so that they drop in pitch and then retune them to pitch. Simply repeat the process until they don't detune when you tug on them. Oh, and do them one at a time  big_smile

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gsj wrote:
jetpilot wrote:
Jlowther wrote:

hey everyone:)

wondering if anyone has any tips for keeping their strings nice and slinky so they're easy to bend and generally play with? mine for years have always, after a few days, became hard to bend.

I use ernie ball slinky .10s and i top wrap them.

thanks!

The reason being that the first three days your stretching the strings to the point they won't stretch anymore. Once you reach that point the feel of the string will be different. The stretched out string is the normal feel. Not the first three days. If your playing every day for an hour or so you should be changing your strings once a week. It's seems excessive but it's about as long as they will last and retain a nice tone.

If you stretch the strings correctly when you first put them on it'll take about 10 to 15 minutes, not three days Jetpilot. I'm guessing you put the strings on and just tune them to pitch - and then find you have to keep repeating the process until they settle down over a period of days? You need to pull them gently but fairly firmly away from the fingerboard (not enough to break them  smile ) so that they drop in pitch and then retune them to pitch. Simply repeat the process until they don't detune when you tug on them. Oh, and do them one at a time  big_smile

hey man...thanks for the reply! yeah when i put my strings on i press down on the second fret and gently tug them upwards  the whole way down the string - that usually helps keep them in tune although they do have a tendency to still lose their tuning every now and then.

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My best friend bought a Standard Fender Telecast MIM and he kept the original strings on that bad boy.  I got to play it when he frist got it.  For a week before I got to play it again he played it a total of 5 hours, the strings were like what my acoustic strings would look like if I didn't change them in 5 years!  Rusty and I thought I need a shot after playing that guitar.  When I asked what happened to it he said "I sweat so much I have to use coated strings to get any life on them at all!"  For years I told him Elixers muffle the sound, but in his case I understand completely.  Muffled strings sound better coated then a uncoated string that is rusty and has no snap left to its tone.

14 (edited by jetpilot 2011-08-28 15:12:13)

Re: tips for keeping strings loose

gsj wrote:
jetpilot wrote:
Jlowther wrote:

hey everyone:)

wondering if anyone has any tips for keeping their strings nice and slinky so they're easy to bend and generally play with? mine for years have always, after a few days, became hard to bend.

I use ernie ball slinky .10s and i top wrap them.

thanks!

The reason being that the first three days your stretching the strings to the point they won't stretch anymore. Once you reach that point the feel of the string will be different. The stretched out string is the normal feel. Not the first three days. If your playing every day for an hour or so you should be changing your strings once a week. It's seems excessive but it's about as long as they will last and retain a nice tone.

If you stretch the strings correctly when you first put them on it'll take about 10 to 15 minutes, not three days Jetpilot. I'm guessing you put the strings on and just tune them to pitch - and then find you have to keep repeating the process until they settle down over a period of days? You need to pull them gently but fairly firmly away from the fingerboard (not enough to break them  smile ) so that they drop in pitch and then retune them to pitch. Simply repeat the process until they don't detune when you tug on them. Oh, and do them one at a time  big_smile


roll  Of course I stretch them. But for the next two or 3 days I still find myself having to adjust the tuning. It's always tuning up too. Imagine that! They do continue to stretch. EVH boils his strings before puting them on. He said he did it becaue it was the only way to find stable tuning on a new set. With the Floyd Rose re-tuning is a #@$@# becaue you eventually run out of fine tuning and have to unlock the nut again. So if some musicians go to lengths like boiling strings then I guess you really can't get all the stretch out with your method. I Know that without having EVH to tell me.

15 (edited by gsj 2011-08-29 04:47:57)

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jetpilot wrote:
gsj wrote:
jetpilot wrote:

The reason being that the first three days your stretching the strings to the point they won't stretch anymore. Once you reach that point the feel of the string will be different. The stretched out string is the normal feel. Not the first three days. If your playing every day for an hour or so you should be changing your strings once a week. It's seems excessive but it's about as long as they will last and retain a nice tone.

If you stretch the strings correctly when you first put them on it'll take about 10 to 15 minutes, not three days Jetpilot. I'm guessing you put the strings on and just tune them to pitch - and then find you have to keep repeating the process until they settle down over a period of days? You need to pull them gently but fairly firmly away from the fingerboard (not enough to break them  smile ) so that they drop in pitch and then retune them to pitch. Simply repeat the process until they don't detune when you tug on them. Oh, and do them one at a time  big_smile


roll  Of course I stretch them. But for the next two or 3 days I still find myself having to adjust the tuning. It's always tuning up too. Imagine that! They do continue to stretch. EVH boils his strings before puting them on. He said he did it becaue it was the only way to find stable tuning on a new set. With the Floyd Rose re-tuning is a #@$@# becaue you eventually run out of fine tuning and have to unlock the nut again. So if some musicians go to lengths like boiling strings then I guess you really can't get all the stretch out with your method. I Know that without having EVH to tell me.

No probs mate, just trying to help. It's obvious that strings don't stay in tune and that it's usual for them to change pitch, sometimes simply due to temperature changes and that's why, as I'm sure you and many others know, we all check the tuning whenever we pick up a guitar. I still think it's odd that you're having noticable string slippage for 3 days after restringing but hey, if you say you're taking all the stretch out of the strings then who am I to argue  wink I know that my method works, been using it for nearly 40 years, as do a couple of techs that I know and many friends who, like me, also gig regularly. As for boiling strings - it used to be considered a way to prolong the life of a string but that was years ago. Still, go ahead and boil away   smile

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guitar players...pbbt!  wink  tongue

Hey Geoff, good to see you up and running.  EVH boiled his strings?  Cheapskate.  lol

Hey guys, wipe down the fretboard & strings & WASH YOUR HANDS.

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Hi Jeff. Yeah, I've never known a bass player boil his strings in the old days rather than fork out £20 on a new set  lol Good to see you posting on here too my friend. Up and running is pretty much right  big_smile  I posted a link to my band The Swamp Cats over on Other Artists....take a look see......you might feel the groove. (Sorry, off topic there). Just a thought about stretching strings.....I guess we've all seen SRV at Austin City Limits when he breaks a string and swaps guitars whilst in full flow. The tech takes away his #1 Strat and then returns with it for the next song with new string in place. Do you reckon he boiled it first or just stretched the #### out of it??   smile

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Lets take it a step further and drop some solder on the winds around the ball ends to keep them from moving too while were at it.