Topic: BBE Sonic Stomp Maximizer

Ok so I listened to some old demos of my old band and I really like the tone my strat got with this old Behringer Compression pedal I got for $10.  Like a dumby I sold it for $15 as well as a bunch of other pedals last year.  Anyway I've been jonesing for a Compressor pedal of nicer quality then my old faithful Behringer.  I read some reviews and things and someone suggested if your going to have a pedal board you want a good distortion, a compressor, and a 6 band Eq to get every inch of your sound covered.  So I went from looking for a Compressor to a 6 band Eq.  On Musicians Friend that is all grouped into tone shaping where I heard a cool Electro harmonix Knockout that basically makes Les Pauls sound like Strats, Strats like Teles, and Teles thinner then you ever cared for.  Its cheap and I want one, but this then lead me to a Sonic Stomp Maximizer and every video I heard this guy on sound great.  So can anybody tell me if this thing will do what a compressor pedal would have done?  I purchased one because I was so impressed I just don't know if that means I wont want a Compresser sooner or later.

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2 (edited by dalandan 2011-08-02 00:14:11)

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AD3THREE wrote:

Ok so I listened to some old demos of my old band and I really like the tone my strat got with this old Behringer Compression pedal I got for $10.  Like a dumby I sold it for $15 as well as a bunch of other pedals last year.  Anyway I've been jonesing for a Compressor pedal of nicer quality then my old faithful Behringer.  I read some reviews and things and someone suggested if your going to have a pedal board you want a good distortion, a compressor, and a 6 band Eq to get every inch of your sound covered.  So I went from looking for a Compressor to a 6 band Eq.  On Musicians Friend that is all grouped into tone shaping where I heard a cool Electro harmonix Knockout that basically makes Les Pauls sound like Strats, Strats like Teles, and Teles thinner then you ever cared for.  Its cheap and I want one, but this then lead me to a Sonic Stomp Maximizer and every video I heard this guy on sound great.  So can anybody tell me if this thing will do what a compressor pedal would have done?  I purchased one because I was so impressed I just don't know if that means I wont want a Compresser sooner or later.

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Hey AD3THREE, let me try to give my 2 cents worth. (From where I'm from, that can't buy squat.)

1. Which Behringer compressor did you sell? I can help you find the pedal that it was based on - hopefully with better reliability and tone.


2. What kind of tone are you looking for? I personally don't think that if you're getting a pedal board you'd want a good distortion, a compressor, and a 6 band Eq to "get every inch of your sound covered "

My stand on it is, your amplifier will be the main voice and effects will shape that sound. Just like icing on a cake, it will never make a bad cake taste good. I hope I'm not misleading up to this point.

Some people may like compression, a distortion pedal, and an EQ, but at that point, you're not "adding" to your tone but rather you're masking it. This may get me flamed, but to me, those three pedals when engaged at the same time are compressing and processing your natural tone too much. Each on its own or just paired may still be okay.


3. EHX Knockout/BBE Sonic Stomp vs a compressor -

a compressor in nature makes your tone, for the lack of a better word, compressed. You reduce the spikes in volume while playing. It also increases the sustain you get from your tone in effect since also the softer played notes are affected. It removes some of the dynamics of your playing. Words often associated with compressors are: "squashed", "balanced", and "spongey".

The BBE Sonic Stomp on the other hand, is not a dedicated compressor. I'm not an electronics expert but that pedal is made more as a radical EQ. A similar effect may be reached by scooping the mids off and increasing treble and bass. T & B are controlled by the two knobs on the pedal.

If you notice, this pedal isn't used by most people who play live. Go to any guitar forum and their respective pedalboard threads. The bedroom players have this more than the gigging players. Doug Seven is an exception though, he gigs and does sessions but has this pedal.

I think that when you're playing alone at low volumes, the BBE SS works wonders in "taking the blanket off" your amp. The big BUT is that when you start increasing the volume and when you start playing in a band setting, this doesn't contribute to your tone at all. It is the stuff of buzzing bees and harsh ear-piercing tones. That's because all the mid range has been removed.

The guitar has a naturally mid-rangey frequency that doesn't sound as good at low volumes. It can sound nasal to a point. The SS gets rid of those frequencies which make it pleasant to the ears at low volumes.

Now if you're wondering why the guy sounded great in all videos, I have a hunch that it's because he' always playing at a low volume, with humbuckers (?), and a lot of gain. Don't get mad at me if I haven't seen the videos. Youtube is blocked here at work.


In summary, if what you like is a compressor to let your tone ring out some more and to even out the levels, that is totally different from what the BBE SS will do which is scoop the mids out and boost the highs and lows.


I don't know if that helped at all. LOL. Good luck, man.

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To be honest any given day of the week I change my mind what I want that sound in my head to be.  I havn't gigged out in almost a year and only jammed a few time with friends this year.  I was burned out at the end of last year and sold most of my equipment.  Now I have been getting back into it and I'm searching for things I've never tried before.  I really only get to play at bedroom levels lately anyway so maybe this pedal will work out.  We had a few songs last year I was listening to where I used this Behringer compresser and an MXR Phase 90 with either my old Baja Telecaster or my favorite Strat (odds are it was the strat) I'm using a modified Fender Blues Jr. and I've put this Canibis Rex speaker in it that really took all the sparkle out of my fender amp so maybe this pedal could help me get that back.  I just can't get a bright sound out of my amp anymore its too dark with the Canibis Rex.  Don't get me wrong the speaker sounds great, but when I play leads I'd like to make my pressence stand out more.  I guess the best way to discribe the tone I want is 70's Eric Clapton, or maybe 70's Joe Walsh with the Eagles.  I'm not interested in the heavy britsh sound thats pretty easy to figure out. 

I'm trying to figure out what I want now because I took the year off from playing in bands to help the wife with some medical issues she's had for some time now.  Things are getting better and I'm hoping around January or Febuary I can get back into the habit of jamming once or twice a week with people and not my cd player.  Got any tips for me?

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AD3THREE wrote:

To be honest any given day of the week I change my mind what I want that sound in my head to be.  I havn't gigged out in almost a year and only jammed a few time with friends this year.  I was burned out at the end of last year and sold most of my equipment.  Now I have been getting back into it and I'm searching for things I've never tried before.  I really only get to play at bedroom levels lately anyway so maybe this pedal will work out.  We had a few songs last year I was listening to where I used this Behringer compresser and an MXR Phase 90 with either my old Baja Telecaster or my favorite Strat (odds are it was the strat) I'm using a modified Fender Blues Jr. and I've put this Canibis Rex speaker in it that really took all the sparkle out of my fender amp so maybe this pedal could help me get that back.  I just can't get a bright sound out of my amp anymore its too dark with the Canibis Rex.  Don't get me wrong the speaker sounds great, but when I play leads I'd like to make my pressence stand out more.  I guess the best way to discribe the tone I want is 70's Eric Clapton, or maybe 70's Joe Walsh with the Eagles.  I'm not interested in the heavy britsh sound thats pretty easy to figure out. 

I'm trying to figure out what I want now because I took the year off from playing in bands to help the wife with some medical issues she's had for some time now.  Things are getting better and I'm hoping around January or Febuary I can get back into the habit of jamming once or twice a week with people and not my cd player.  Got any tips for me?

Well, if your amp is dark, you may want a treble boost (those things work well with EL84 amps in general).

If you do go back to gigging, I will not recommend the BBE SS if what you want is your "presence to stand out more". That requires MIDS not HIGHS. You may want to consider something like the Xotic EP Booster for a clean boost with mids if you don't want to add any dirt or your standard issue tube screamer.

For Clapton, he has an active mid boost in his strats that gets him into humbucker territory. The slightly overdriven Eagles tone is also a tube amp pushed to overdrive. The Sonic Stomp may not help you get there.

I suggest you listen to Gearmanndude over at youtube. He sometimes uses a Blues Jr to demo a lot of pedals. FWIW, I think all you need is a boost pedal that accentuates the mids. The BJr is already a good amp to begin with.

Think about Derek Trucks for a while. He plugs straight into a Super Reverb with no effects (his tone has enough mids and treble). Joe can get his signature tone no matter if he's using his fly-in or regular rig. It's because they understand how the MIDS work in a band context. The best you can do is hold off your buying until you get into the band, and then make a decision as to what's needed. The pedal market is so nice right now that there's a knife for every job, if you get my drift.

If you're confined to being a bedroom rockstar like a lot of us, try the Sonic Stomp out at the store at volumes you'd play at home. As you said, it's not too big of an investment.

Hope that helps.

5 (edited by helrazr84 2011-08-02 18:25:46)

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I used to have a SONIC MAXIMIZER pedal and it was very nice.  2 knobs, one for the low and the other for the high end.  I'm sure it can get some sizzle back into your pro junior, but as mentioned in the above post, it won't boost your mids, but can add some top.  It does boost your signal and put it out front by doing exactly what it says it does in the description.  And you can leave it on all the time if you want.  But to be honest, when I bought and started playing with Marshalls, it seemed to make everything TOO modern sounding..if that makes sense.  It didn't sound bad by any means, I just wanted a more raw sound.  We (my band) have a rackmount version and use it with our PA system.  It seriously kicks up the signal and adds a lot of punch.  I guarantee it will sound awesome with a strat or tele to thicken it up and add some girth.  Great pedal, just wasn't what I was looking for in my personal, ever changing taste in tone. 

If you're looking for a compressor, I've said it before that I absolutely love the pigtronix philosophers tone.  I've owned a handful and still own a few comp pedals, I really like them and won't ever go without.  This one is by far my absolute favorite.  Only paid 100 at a guitar show.  Brand new, dealer cost, last day of show.  FWIW, I have the Aria too (also last day of show deal) and it goes superbly with the P's Tone.  I'd never ever part with either. -S

P.s. the jangle box is really cool but it sounded exactly like my mxr custom comp for a lot less $$.

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I talked to many people about the Sonic Maximizer by BBE.

The consensus is that it can spike the highs and the lows... ie stagnating the mids. You can already do this on you EQ on the amp by going B10 M0 T10. It gives you that "Disturbed" crunch heavy metal-esque. From what I hear, the Sonic Maximizer has more use for PA mixes than a guitar signal. And, unless you want the mids scooped out - you don't need one of these.

that was the way it was described to me anyway. I heard "clarity" when I had a guitar through one, but by that I really heard more lows and more highs. All the snarl and balls were taken out of the sound and replace with boom and glass.

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Re: BBE Sonic Stomp Maximizer

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:

I talked to many people about the Sonic Maximizer by BBE.

The consensus is that it can spike the highs and the lows... ie stagnating the mids. You can already do this on you EQ on the amp by going B10 M0 T10. It gives you that "Disturbed" crunch heavy metal-esque. From what I hear, the Sonic Maximizer has more use for PA mixes than a guitar signal. And, unless you want the mids scooped out - you don't need one of these.

that was the way it was described to me anyway. I heard "clarity" when I had a guitar through one, but by that I really heard more lows and more highs. All the snarl and balls were taken out of the sound and replace with boom and glass.

True.  I think they work better with single coils than humbuckers.  I used the rack version once on just the Sub boxes and I thought they were going to explode they were thumping so hard!  But yeah they are great with a PA system.

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Ok so I got it in today sadly couldn't try it out with my regular guitar because of some things I was changing on the guitar, and didn't realize I was out of strings.  However I'm selling a Schecter guitar on ebay right now for a friend and it was ready and more then happy to do a test with the Sonic Stomp.  First impressions is that video I posted earlier really should have told their setup on their amp because at my regular settings which is kinda bright I found no change at all in bedroom levels.  So I had to bump it up a notch to the dismay of my wife and 3 kids.  I was ready to box it up and send it back when it occured to me the video tone was muddy sounding.  So I made a muddy tone on my amp which still sounded good but not for leads really.  Strumming a few chords sounded good, then I hit the button and instantly the tone was awesome.  It really sounded better then any tone I had had in this amp since I modded it.  It wasn't as loud but your filtering so thats to be expected, but the volume didn't drop off much.  I still didn't try it cranked but I can honestly say I think this speaker I put in sounds too dark even with a Telecaster, but the bass is fantastic.  Now if this pedal will work the way it did earlier at loud volumes I might just be on to tamming this beast.  Yeah swapping the speaker is the more logical step but I really do like the speaker, but it has to be with a bright sounding guitar for me to get my best use out of it.

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Glad ya like it. You know you're now obliged to provide us with clips!  lol

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Glad you like it too.  Try getting your best amp tone and then turning the pedal on, and fine tune the pedal knobs.  Also, I used mine LAST in the effects loop.  Don't know if your amp has one or not.  It can go either way (front of amp, or loop) as long as it's last in the chain of effects.

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Yeah I have no loop on the Jr.  I sorta hate that and I sorta don't, it forces me to keep it simple which I like, but it limits you with delay and other effects.  I'd love to do a sound clip sometime but my current method sucks.  I have a hand held picture camera that makes videos and I have to be careful how loud I get or it clips the mic like crazy.  I think this pedal will work better if I can turn the volume up high enough to have a sonic impact to the tone.  Also my main guitar if you saw my other post has no strings on it because I did some major changes cosmetically to it as well as swapped necks with another guitar.  So that the plan tonight setup the main guitar get it right, if the wife is still out maybe try to play for a couple of minutes.  Cant explain how it sounds I can say that after you have it on and you turn it off you miss it when its off.  Oh I only had this pedal hooked up when I tried it out.  No sense busting out all the pedals until I got an idea what its doing, but I agree anything used to shape tone needs to be last.  Its funny I was looking for a mid boost like clapton's midrange boost in his guitar but in pedal form when I decided to get this.

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Ok best effort here to give you a sound clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4buUHqH … tube_gdata

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AD3THREE wrote:

Ok best effort here to give you a sound clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4buUHqH … tube_gdata

thanks! i'll watch it when i get home from work.