1 Topic by NPB_EST.1979 (edited by NPB_EST.1979 2011-06-24 15:42:04)

  • From: Detroit
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Topic: Fuzz order in chain

Hey all,

I remember hearing someone on the forums puts the fuzz in his loop... while I'm not looking to do that, I am thinking about making a pedal board and I don't want to mess with my sound, I'd rather take your experienced words for it.

Would you go straight into the fuzz from the guitar? I have a JB FF and I heard fuzz will be erratic as h-e-double-hockey-sticks if it's not the very first thing in the chain.

In the order I was thinking, this is what I have:
1. Boss Tuner
2. Vox WAH
3. JB Fuzz
4. Fulltone Fuldrive II
5. Fulltone SuperTrem

Effects Loop
1. Boss DD3 delay
2. Boss Loop Station

Is this a good order? Any changes?

PS: for my Theremin solo, I just walk to my amp and plug it into the low gain, (w/guitar's volume on zero but plugged into the high gain input on the amp)

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  • From: Edwardsville, IL
  • Registered: 2010-05-17
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

I've found the fuzz works best in front of my wah.

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  • Registered: 2011-06-23
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

If you want to help get that joe sound you should put your trem after your wah and in front of your overdrive and fuzz.  Leave it on at all times.  When your running full volume with our gain on its real subtle almost like an auto vibrato if their were such a thing.  Then when you turn your guitars volume down it becomes more pulsating and apparent.  That's what I believe Joe does.  Correct me If I'm wrong.

But If you want a consistent and more choppy trem sound keep it after your drives.

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Guitars: Gibson Les Paul's(Standard, Classic, and Studio)Es 125 T, Fender Strats, Telies, Wasburn Idol Pro
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  • Registered: 2009-10-27
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

No right way. Each person's board, tone they want to achieve when pedals are stacked or not, etc,  is different. You'll hear a million theories via mix match true bypass with non true bypass, etc, until you're blue in the face - find your tone.

I think your order looks pretty normal. I keep my loop pedal last on my board, not in loop, I go:

RMC8 Wah (sits off board to the right using battery power, but like it there and sounds good)
Boss TU2
Cusack Fuzz
Klon (set as clean boost)
Dumkudo OD (set with OD level pretty high at 1-3pm) or RB Boiling Point OD set with pretty high OD
Providence SOV-2 (set with light OD level at 8-10pm and stacks well with higher gain OD in front of it)
Fulltone Mini Deja Vibe
WH Aquaa Puss or Boss DM2
T-Rex Replica
Boss RC-20XL Loop (I normally usually loop clean tones, so stays clean even when I use OD, Fuzz to jam over)

If I use Ceriatone OTS Amp:  Klien-ulator, Dr. Sceintist Reverb are always in loop and if not lazy, move Replica to loop or grab my old Boss DD-2 or DD-7.

TR Jet: Nothing in loop ever- pedalboard above straight into amp.


You have a nice board - congrats!!!

  • Registered: 2006-04-22
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

Clean first, then effects.. delay first then reverb then overdrive then the Fuzzface..  A Via Musicom there it is..  The fuzz needs to be last or second to last depending if you use a Wah Wah.  Thats the key to the ultimate fuzztone post Hendrix.  Eric Johnson has written the book as far as I am concerned. 
Joe B

  • Registered: 2009-10-27
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

Joe B. - thanks for input.  So if you were forced to use my board, you would go:

TU2
Klon (Set with Clean Boost)
Replica Delay
Boss DM2 Delay
Mini Deja Vibe
OD #1
OD #2
Cusack Fuzz
Wah

Is that correct?

I love to change things up - thank you for your thoughts on my board in realtion to you.

Cheers!

  • From: Detroit
  • Registered: 2006-06-02
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

In rethinking this based on JB's recommendations, I might have had things backwards all these years. Maybe I should try this:

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:

1. Boss Tuner
2. Boss DD3 delay
3. Fulltone SuperTrem
4. Fulltone Fuldrive II
5. JB Fuzz
6. Vox WAH

Effects Loop
1. Boss Loop Station

I do like having a delay in the effects loop because then I can run it with the theremin since I put bot guitar and theremin through the same amp.

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Re: Fuzz order in chain

Joe Bonamassa wrote:

Clean first, then effects.. delay first then reverb then overdrive then the Fuzzface..  A Via Musicom there it is..  The fuzz needs to be last or second to last depending if you use a Wah Wah.  Thats the key to the ultimate fuzztone post Hendrix.  Eric Johnson has written the book as far as I am concerned. 
Joe B

Wow! Really? Thats completely backwards to how I have mine set up? (Tuner>fuzz>wah>od>delay) I'll give it a try though, cant hurt to change stuff around now and again!

  • From: Dublin, Ohio
  • Registered: 2011-06-27
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

I think Joe is looking at the order visually from left to right.  Or maybe I am wrong.  I have never heard of putting a delay before a fuzz.  But then maybe that (and a lot of other reasons) means why i don't sound as good as Joe!

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sted wrote:
Joe Bonamassa wrote:

Clean first, then effects.. delay first then reverb then overdrive then the Fuzzface..  A Via Musicom there it is..  The fuzz needs to be last or second to last depending if you use a Wah Wah.  Thats the key to the ultimate fuzztone post Hendrix.  Eric Johnson has written the book as far as I am concerned. 
Joe B

Wow! Really? Thats completely backwards to how I have mine set up? (Tuner>fuzz>wah>od>delay) I'll give it a try though, cant hurt to change stuff around now and again!

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  • Registered: 2011-06-23
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

her you go
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I … age=6&

Its not the most up yo date version of his board(now he gas a rotosphere and a miroplange insted of the whirlwind pheser.
phaser
it goes guitar> wah> sepa trem> Porklion> TS808> phaser> AB switcher> either Jubilee or ABC switcher> JB 100 or Twinkeland or  Fuzz> cat 5

Jubilee loop DD 3
JB  100 loop Chorus> delay> revrb
Twinkeland Loop delay

Amps: Marshall JCM 800, Marshall 1987 X Plexi, Vox AC-30, Ceriaton ODS HRM, Fender Bassman
Guitars: Gibson Les Paul's(Standard, Classic, and Studio)Es 125 T, Fender Strats, Telies, Wasburn Idol Pro
FX's: BOSS TU-2, Ibanez TS-808, TS-9, Dunlap 535Q Cry Baby, Fulltone OCD, Full drive 2, Supa Trem, Rat, Whirlwind Phaser, MXR Micro Chorus, Digatech Whammy, Line 6 DL4, Holly grail 2,Wampler Ego,Pinical
  • From: Detroit
  • Registered: 2006-06-02
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

My makeshift pedalboard. $6

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2 … 1356151998

nothing glamorous... just function!

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12 Reply by dave_5150 (edited by dave_5150 2011-06-27 10:24:32)

  • Registered: 2010-02-01
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

Hey Nic, that looks a familar approach to making a pedal board http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad32 … 0217_n.jpg

- £6 shelf with holes drilled through and gear secured with cable ties.

Right side of mine is in front of amp (wah, tuner, ts808 clone), left side is in loop (delay into reverb - all through Ceriatone K'lator)

  • From: Detroit
  • Registered: 2006-06-02
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Re: Fuzz order in chain

Joe Bonamassa wrote:

Clean first, then effects.. delay first then reverb then overdrive then the Fuzzface..  A Via Musicom there it is..  The fuzz needs to be last or second to last depending if you use a Wah Wah.
Joe B


I think you're saying this:

Amp->delay->reverb->overdrive->fuzzface->wah->Guitar

Let us know if that's the case.
if it is, it's consistent with the research I found and this site:
http://guitarpedalboard.tumblr.com/

- Nic from Detroit... posting on JB's Forum since 6-2-2006
Ask me about my handwound Great Lakes Guitar Pickups
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