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Re: Help with Dumble tone from a pedal

here is the best one IMHO: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tha … D8Y_7537Jc

and remember that the dumble in a box pedals really will only get you close if you play a fender-style amp.

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Re: Help with Dumble tone from a pedal

t92780 wrote:

Be careful, I own Dumkudo, SOV-2 (what Robben Ford and Matt Schofield use), Klon and a bunch more - point, no D-style pedal provides D-tone, only a D-style amp.  These pedals are just sprinkles on your guitar and amp tone, not the creater of tone IMO.  I use D-style amps, but have tried these pedals in non D-style amps with no sucess.

In regards to Dumkudo, its a nice pedal, but at $325.00, it has flaw. 

1.  Again, no pedal gets you D-style amp tone or those amps would not exist, we all would have cheap tube amps and buy d-style pedals.....oh, then D-style pedals would cost $2,000 or more...lol
2.  Dumkudo pedal volume control boosts volume way to fast/early, you literally can't get volume past 9'o clock all while still mixing well in volume from clean channel on amp - flaw.

SOV-2 I have, used by Ford, etc, but doesn't proviode d-style tone again, but a great pedal if you don't want to change your amp to guitar tone, so in this case, you don't want this pedal, as you want to change your amp tone to be something it's not - D-style amp.

I agree that no pedal will give you a dumble tone perfectly but there has to be some compromise. For those who want a versatile rig but can't drag 5 amps with them then pedals are a good alternative. If Robben Ford can substitute his dumble for a twin and a pedal then the rest of us should surely be able to manage.

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Re: Help with Dumble tone from a pedal

macg1 wrote:

here is the best one IMHO: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tha … D8Y_7537Jc

and remember that the dumble in a box pedals really will only get you close if you play a fender-style amp.

That pedal sounds really good and his A/B demos are great at showcasing how close the tone is. That being said, if you listen closely, there's certain passages where he digs in hard and the Two Rock has more bottom end. Perhaps that's the 6V6's in the Deluxe, vs the 6L6's in the Two Rock. Or just the difference between speakers.

If you watch his demos of the Alpha Drive into the clean channel of his Two Rock vs straight into the lead channel, it's hard to tell them apart. I may just have to order one, for $168 it's a pretty good deal.

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Re: Help with Dumble tone from a pedal

Yeah a pedal will never be an amp, but the alpha is pretty cool.


rythmplaya wrote:
macg1 wrote:

here is the best one IMHO: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tha … D8Y_7537Jc

and remember that the dumble in a box pedals really will only get you close if you play a fender-style amp.

That pedal sounds really good and his A/B demos are great at showcasing how close the tone is. That being said, if you listen closely, there's certain passages where he digs in hard and the Two Rock has more bottom end. Perhaps that's the 6V6's in the Deluxe, vs the 6L6's in the Two Rock. Or just the difference between speakers.

If you watch his demos of the Alpha Drive into the clean channel of his Two Rock vs straight into the lead channel, it's hard to tell them apart. I may just have to order one, for $168 it's a pretty good deal.

RP

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Re: Help with Dumble tone from a pedal

If you have an amp with a nice clean, the Zendrive will get you in the ballpark.

I built a ceriatone OTS FM50 for $774 minus tubes and head cab.
No pedal will ever get you the feel that the D-style amp has.

I went and got a zendrive because I saw RF use one with his Dumble #102 and thought it sounded great!

I barely use the Zendrive because with it engaged on the clean channell I get the same exact tone but better from my OD channel with no pedal!

So $200 for a little box that gets you in ballpark
OR $800 + some tubes and woodworking for an amp that does get Dumble tone.

My suggestion is to save up and get the real deal.

BTW I built a couple pedals before getting into amps and I actually find it easier to work on the amp because there is more distance between components. Just make sure you do your homework if you go this route, there is a lot to digest! Main thing is to do good solder work and learn how to work on it safely.

My 2 cents

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