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Yeah, great explanation. Yet I'm still pretty dubious about using these baffles when not mic'ed. I am never mic'ed because I gig in small venues, never more than 100 people. And without being mic'ed I think that these baffles make the sound too dull. There are too many frequencies that suffer from it. I guess this is corrected by the PA when you're mic'ed, but when you're not...
Just my two cents, but obviously I don't gig as often as Joe does, nor in as big venues... I take his word for granted and I do use the baffle when I'm mic'ed, which happens about once a year, when I play for an outdoor festival... Then it's tonal bliss I must confess...
If you guys have tips for small venues just shoot... The problem is that in a small bar you're loud, even with a baffle, and if you go through a PA you're even louder so... 
Thanks Patty!
Yeah, great explanation. Yet I'm still pretty dubious about using these baffles when not mic'ed. I am never mic'ed because I gig in small venues, never more than 100 people. And without being mic'ed I think that these baffles make the sound too dull. There are too many frequencies that suffer from it. I guess this is corrected by the PA when you're mic'ed, but when you're not...
Just my two cents, but obviously I don't gig as often as Joe does, nor in as big venues... I take his word for granted and I do use the baffle when I'm mic'ed, which happens about once a year, when I play for an outdoor festival... Then it's tonal bliss I must confess...
If you guys have tips for small venues just shoot... The problem is that in a small bar you're loud, even with a baffle, and if you go through a PA you're even louder so...
Well, perhaps you could try the "THD Hot Plate". It's an attanuator that you put between the speakeroutput of your amp and the speaker itself. It allows you to crank your amp to the full without losing tone.
Yeah, great explanation. Yet I'm still pretty dubious about using these baffles when not mic'ed. I am never mic'ed because I gig in small venues, never more than 100 people. And without being mic'ed I think that these baffles make the sound too dull. There are too many frequencies that suffer from it. I guess this is corrected by the PA when you're mic'ed, but when you're not...
Just my two cents, but obviously I don't gig as often as Joe does, nor in as big venues... I take his word for granted and I do use the baffle when I'm mic'ed, which happens about once a year, when I play for an outdoor festival... Then it's tonal bliss I must confess...
If you guys have tips for small venues just shoot... The problem is that in a small bar you're loud, even with a baffle, and if you go through a PA you're even louder so...
I play with baffles in small rooms (like one that seats about 80) and the baffle doesn't dull it at all. If it does, I open up one side of the baffle and that's usually all it needs.
Whether you're playing a big gig or a small one I always find it's beneficial for your band's overall sound to mic the guitars, and even the kick drum to have a nice balanced blend of sound coming through the PA. I think using the baffle even in a small pub situation is also beneficial in allowing your guitar amp microphone to focus on your guitar's sound without much else bleeding into it since the microphone is behind the baffle. -S
It might "dull" the sound YOU are hearing but the sound coming through the PA speaker will be clear. I think if you're using a baffle to influence your sound all together, and NOT using a microphone then yes, it will affect it and it may not be to your liking. However in my opinion that is not the purpose of using a baffle.
I may be stupid for not understanding this and I think I need your insight, but if you're already too loud in a small bar I really don't see how mic'ing the guitars is gonna help solve that volume issue, despite the presence of the baffle. I remember putting that solution forward a few months ago to my band members and then all joined to tell me "Fred, you're already too loud, don't tell us that now you wanna be mic'ed!"
Unless of course you turn your amp down to the point that your audience hears only the PA speakers and not the amp cab. If you have to turn it that down then it also means that your amp is set at about 2 or 3/10 and that the tubes are not cooking anymore... So you're mic'ing a crappy sound, or at least an OD sound that is obtained through OD pedals and not the natural tube overdrive. But then your crappy sound spreads everywhere, which I'm doubtful about it being a better solution 
I used to play a 100w head, not mic'ed, in a smaller sized bar and i played very loud but the 4x12 was sitting on the ground at normal height and because the PA speakers were a little higher up (sitting on top of subs) it was difficult to hear my guitar blend with the bass and drums. I play in a 3 piece.. I figured the same thing, I'm so loud already..why do I need a mic? But because of that issue, I now use a microphone and still play loud. When the entire band is coming through the PA, it just sounds better.
Now when we play in a very small place I just use a 15w tube head so I can at least crank it a bit, use a baffle and throw a microphone on the cabinet. If you're using a big 100w head in a small place the audience is still gonna hear your amp's tone but since it is also coming through the PA system, mixed with everything else, your amp won't have to fight for recognition. The baffle will help contain the sound to a degree so those close to the stage area won't suffer from a blast of volume. You won't have to mic a crapy sound either.
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