Topic: copping leslie tones

a simple premise, korg G4's are too big for my board and a real leslie breaks peoples backs. i love leslie sounds and want to add it to my sparse board (sparse being one darn pedal wink )

what do people use to get close and without taking up space and too much dollar. i had the boss RT-20, but the lights did my head in and it took my high end when bypassed.

Fender 60's Strat>Fulltone OCD V4>>TC Electronics Polytune>Orange Dual Terror>Torres 2x10 Cab(with a vintage 30 and a greenback)

Re: copping leslie tones

I doubt you'll find anything that'll match the sound of a G4. Set it off to the side. Who says all effects have to fit on the board?

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It's big, but give the H&K Rotosphere or Neo Ventilator a "whirl"...lol.  They are the 2 best sounding leslie sims available, IMO.  I've also owned (and sold):

Line 6 Roto-Machine
Option 5 Destination Rotation Single
DLS RotoSIM (not bad at all)

I never bothered with the RT-20, based on reviews and my experiences with the RE-20 Space Echo. Their bypass tone does suck.  I never bothered with the Korg because they are enormous, and hard to find.

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The H&K is very noisy unless used in the loop. Great Leslie sound though.

The DLS is a better choice if you don't have a loop.

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Just whatever you do avoid the dunlop rotovibe...they break! I had two, both broke within a month.

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I have to say it: Nothing can beat the real deal => Two doppolas:-) I have two P-26 from Tolerance sound, and I always smile when I play through them. One speaker panned hard left, the other hard right, a little bit different speed ..... pure heaven! Practical on small gigs? Don't think so, but if you're crazy enough, anything is possible. Luckily my band don't play live that often....

I have a Boss RT-20, but don't like it that much. The Korg is great and many will say it's more easy to carry around than my two dopploas.

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Hmmmm I really like my RT20 and the light show it emitts....

You could always try a MXR Phase 90 or TC Chorus (any decent chorus really) with the speed high up.  Also, I hear the Option 5 Destination Rotation is a nice rotating speaker emulator.

'67 and '74 Fender Twin Reverbs, '74 Marshall 1987 lead mkII, Metro Superlead 100. Pedals from TC Electronic, Ibanez, Dunlop, BK Butler, Electro-Harmonix, Fulltone, Maestro/Gibson, Loopmaster switching, VoodooLab, Boss. Gibson and Fender guitars, Dimarzio pickups.

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Dear Stratpaulguy,

I hope I haven't offended you! Taste is different u know:-) Where in the chain of pedals do you run the RT-20?

Have any of you tried the Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator?

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I actually use a Rocktron Xpression in the effect loop of my fuchs ODS.  Their Rotovibe has a top horn and bottom horn speed adjust to really tweak it...gives you that nice swishy sound.  Verbs aren't that great but adequate.  Delays (2) are great and programmable so you get different delay times/feedback for each song.  Helps if your drummer plays at the same tempo each night which fortunately ours does. smile

10 (edited by Franzoni 2010-12-30 16:06:11)

Re: copping leslie tones

André wrote:

Dear Stratpaulguy,

I hope I haven't offended you! Taste is different u know:-) Where in the chain of pedals do you run the RT-20?

Have any of you tried the Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator?

Hi Andre

I use the earlier CLS-22 in my rig and i think it's great... i've never used a real leslie so i'm only going on what i've heard on

recordings and youtube clips but the warm tones out of this box brings a smile to my face every time especially on the fast

setting the bypassed signal with the CLS22 isn't

great it makes everything very midrangy sounding so i've bought a little Lehle II switcher so i can keep it out of the way

when not in use and keep it's stereo capabilities..i run a two amp rig on most gigs a Marshall Superbass II and 2 x12 and a

Musicman HD 130 combo

Now i just need to build a bigger pedalboard to fit all this stuff onto.....i bet our singer will be pleased.... big_smile

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André wrote:

Dear Stratpaulguy,

I hope I haven't offended you! Taste is different u know:-) Where in the chain of pedals do you run the RT-20?

Have any of you tried the Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator?

No way Mang!  tongue   Really, the RT-20 is the only Leslie sim besides a horrible Rocktron (barfffff  mad ) that I've tried.  I like the tweakability of the RT-20, trust me there are some wonderful sounds in there if you tweak it right.  Also, the genious and SUPER usable dual pedal format allows you to essentially create two awesome sounding leslie setting AND you can set the ramp time between them!  I love the light on it too, it's a real eye catcher and makes non-guitar players ooooh and ahhhh asking "thats pretty, what does that one do?"  roll   The first time I ran it in stereo through the effects loops into a big 4x12 cab + two amps it was such a huge sound...  It allowed me to cop a passable Joe version of "Tea For One" which was what I was going for.  Add in the legendary Boss durability and lower than boutique prices and you have a very sollid Leslie sim IMO.  But you are totally right.....different tastes!

'67 and '74 Fender Twin Reverbs, '74 Marshall 1987 lead mkII, Metro Superlead 100. Pedals from TC Electronic, Ibanez, Dunlop, BK Butler, Electro-Harmonix, Fulltone, Maestro/Gibson, Loopmaster switching, VoodooLab, Boss. Gibson and Fender guitars, Dimarzio pickups.

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stratpaulguy86 wrote:
André wrote:

Dear Stratpaulguy,

I hope I haven't offended you! Taste is different u know:-) Where in the chain of pedals do you run the RT-20?

Have any of you tried the Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator?

No way Mang!  tongue   Really, the RT-20 is the only Leslie sim besides a horrible Rocktron (barfffff  mad ) that I've tried.  I like the tweakability of the RT-20, trust me there are some wonderful sounds in there if you tweak it right.  Also, the genious and SUPER usable dual pedal format allows you to essentially create two awesome sounding leslie setting AND you can set the ramp time between them!  I love the light on it too, it's a real eye catcher and makes non-guitar players ooooh and ahhhh asking "thats pretty, what does that one do?"  roll   The first time I ran it in stereo through the effects loops into a big 4x12 cab + two amps it was such a huge sound...  It allowed me to cop a passable Joe version of "Tea For One" which was what I was going for.  Add in the legendary Boss durability and lower than boutique prices and you have a very sollid Leslie sim IMO.  But you are totally right.....different tastes!

smile
Maybe you could share the settings for Tea for one? I might have to blow the dust of it, and give it another try. Haven't tried it in stereo. If I've done the pedal any injustice, I'll eat my words, crawl on my knees and ask for forgiveness!  lol

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The Analogman Bi-Chorus can be set for a "normal" chorus on channel A and a pretty decent leslie sound on the "B" side.

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André wrote:
stratpaulguy86 wrote:
André wrote:

Dear Stratpaulguy,

I hope I haven't offended you! Taste is different u know:-) Where in the chain of pedals do you run the RT-20?

Have any of you tried the Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator?

No way Mang!  tongue   Really, the RT-20 is the only Leslie sim besides a horrible Rocktron (barfffff  mad ) that I've tried.  I like the tweakability of the RT-20, trust me there are some wonderful sounds in there if you tweak it right.  Also, the genious and SUPER usable dual pedal format allows you to essentially create two awesome sounding leslie setting AND you can set the ramp time between them!  I love the light on it too, it's a real eye catcher and makes non-guitar players ooooh and ahhhh asking "thats pretty, what does that one do?"  roll   The first time I ran it in stereo through the effects loops into a big 4x12 cab + two amps it was such a huge sound...  It allowed me to cop a passable Joe version of "Tea For One" which was what I was going for.  Add in the legendary Boss durability and lower than boutique prices and you have a very sollid Leslie sim IMO.  But you are totally right.....different tastes!

smile
Maybe you could share the settings for Tea for one? I might have to blow the dust of it, and give it another try. Haven't tried it in stereo. If I've done the pedal any injustice, I'll eat my words, crawl on my knees and ask for forgiveness!  lol

Man, no need for all that!  I have long forgotten what settings I used, I remember a lot of knobs being around noon (seems to be a trend with those Boss pedals  wink  ) and it sounded okay to me at least.  If it didn't mesh with your playing, don't force it.  There are some pedals that just fight your playing and sound more than others.  People often plug into my rig and hate it instantly because it's so loose and warm, you really have to get the notes to pop out with a very specific pick attack.  People say I sound great through it though, so go figure...  I say get you a Leslie that sounds right to you out of the box!

'67 and '74 Fender Twin Reverbs, '74 Marshall 1987 lead mkII, Metro Superlead 100. Pedals from TC Electronic, Ibanez, Dunlop, BK Butler, Electro-Harmonix, Fulltone, Maestro/Gibson, Loopmaster switching, VoodooLab, Boss. Gibson and Fender guitars, Dimarzio pickups.

15 (edited by jakey 2011-01-01 00:03:28)

Re: copping leslie tones

André wrote:

Dear Stratpaulguy,

I hope I haven't offended you! Taste is different u know:-) Where in the chain of pedals do you run the RT-20?

Have any of you tried the Dynacord CLS-222 Leslie simulator?



I've long searched for a decent Leslie sim that's a good size. I have had the CLS222 and quite frankly, unless you're prepared to re-amp it properly so it runs at line level then it's far too noisy and adds too much drivey hiss (note my system is pure front end analogue). Re-amping the thing is also hard, as as far as I am aware you need 2 boxes not one to do this, although dan@ the gig rig is bringing out a gizmo to do this soon.

Also, for my money, unless you're running a stereo rig, a Leslie sim is pointless as you won;'t get the right 'sweep'.

Having tried most, I have to say the Korg G4 is the best by miles. DLS and HK are too too noisy, and the RT20 to me is more chorusy. The G4 is one heck of a piece of pedal board real estate though*

One thing that I sometimes use is the TC SCF on pitch mod. This is slightly Leslie ish.

*My pedalboard, for those that have seen it, is hollow and I place the 'set and play' boxes underneath the main pedal deck. I think I can squeeze the G4 into the cavity, and as I tend only to use it on one setting, this may be the way forward and then control it off my switching system.

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

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Hi,
I'd like to copy this slow leslie sound that can be heard for example in Badge from RAH 2005. Will the MXR phase 90 script logo RI do the job for me? I've been also considering the Lovepedal Pickle Vibe , Voodoo lab Micro Vibe and at least Mini Deja Vibe from fulltone but it's quite expensive...

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I have a 12 year old HK rotosphere with the same tube....
Yes it might be a little noisey at higher volume....
I never use it in the lead channel or with anykind of OD
Always play it clean....the tube makes it's own OD just like the amp in the real deal.....
Love it....don't use it much but when it's on you can't really tell the difference.
Everyone keeps looking for the big heavy wooden cab....
At 58 years young I could never lift the real deal....might even have a hard time bending over to adjust the amp.....HA !!!!



]Hi,
I'd like to copy this slow leslie sound that can be heard for example in Badge from RAH 2005. Will the MXR phase 90 script logo RI do the job for me? I've been also considering the Lovepedal Pickle Vibe , Voodoo lab Micro Vibe and at least Mini Deja Vibe from fulltone but it's quite expensive...