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Its a 1960 reissue with EC's name on it. check it out on the Gibson site or Wildwoodguitars.com and see one on there in the gibson artist page. Plus it has covers! EC took the covers off on the beano guitar and had white bobbins exposed. 
So, what is it, that you don't like? 
Here's a story...
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/histori … -paul.html
I'm a member of MLP, but I don't bother any more as I've found that there are just some members on there that just love to find fault and nit pick everything they can so I wouldn't listen of take any advice from them... Try before you buy and dispite what they say or anyone else says for that matter only you can judge what your looking for in a guitar regardless of it's price tag.... I bought a JBLP without even trying it,but all the specs ticked all my boxes( except black parts which was the least of my worries) and if I wasn't happy the shop said I could return it, and as it happens I feckin loved it because it was right for me.... Sorry for the rant guys but that's just the way I see it.....
In my opinion, without the original to measure and spec out from, the Clapton "Beano" LP is more of an "inspired by" model.
One question no one seems to be able to satisfactorily answer is, what's different or special about the pickups used in the Clapton model as opposed to the burstbuckers (1&2) used in the reissues?
The vote is, does this guitar suck ?, yes or no. WTF ! How does it play ? Not a clue. How does it look ? OK, I guess. What a puerile waste of a question ! OK it's expensive and Gibson have a lot of over the top prices on 'artist models', but the guitar could be excellent. Without playing it how can we know whether it sucks or not !
Rant over.
At peace again. Happy days.
I did not vote by the way ! 
True does it suck or not is a little bit of an extrem. My point was as far as being a replica of an instrument that no longer exist it doesn't look a thing like any of the pictures I've seen of it. My rant was not over how does it play, I'm sure it plays like any gibson that cost a large amount of money. My point is it looks nothing like the beano guitar. But scratch N Sniff I do respect your opinion even though I don't really give a crap what kind of opinion it is. So maybe this helps you with your vote
it sucks as a replica, and i voted for that. unless of course gibson arranged a crystal ball, went back in the past, and got the original specs. shameless market ploy IMHO. that said, I am sure it plays great and it is well made. did it need the EC association? nope, and for that it gets the suck vote from me.
True does it suck or not is a little bit of an extrem. My point was as far as being a replica of an instrument that no longer exist it doesn't look a thing like any of the pictures I've seen of it. My rant was not over how does it play, I'm sure it plays like any gibson that cost a large amount of money. My point is it looks nothing like the beano guitar. But scratch N Sniff I do respect your opinion even though I don't really give a crap what kind of opinion it is. So maybe this helps you with your vote
a lot of hate for not understanding what the model is intended to be
In my opinion, without the original to measure and spec out from, the Clapton "Beano" LP is more of an "inspired by" model.
One question no one seems to be able to satisfactorily answer is, what's different or special about the pickups used in the Clapton model as opposed to the burstbuckers (1&2) used in the reissues?
it has an alnico III magnet as opposed to the Alnico II in the reissues. it gives it a little bit of a 'twangier' sound, if that makes sense.
they actually are very similar to the p'ups in the Page #1 and #2 models, which also use Alnico III. My understanding is, however, that in the Clapton case they are not wound quite as much as the Pages. I have a Page and in trying the Clapton yesterday, there were a lot of similarities (particularly when compared to normal reissues) but the Clapton is not quite as hot in the bridge as the Page.
hope that helps.
I had a Les Paul Classic that looked exactly like that guitar. The top had less flames then the clapton model but it was the same burst. I've played 58' and 59' reissues and other then thickness of necks don't get the whole idea of spending $6000 on an instrument that pretty much is not much better then a less then $2000 instrument made by the same group of people. Yeah its a limited edition collectors item, but my biggest issue is I still think it doesn't look like Claptons Les Paul. I guess he put cover back on the Les Paul while he was in Cream but if they are really looking at it from the Blues Breakers era shouldnt he have white pickups in that guitar? no covers. I don't hate it, I'm just saying if your going to make claims that this is the greatest les paul on earth shouldn't it blow me away? Its a Les Paul Classic to me.
AD3THREE wrote:True does it suck or not is a little bit of an extrem. My point was as far as being a replica of an instrument that no longer exist it doesn't look a thing like any of the pictures I've seen of it. My rant was not over how does it play, I'm sure it plays like any gibson that cost a large amount of money. My point is it looks nothing like the beano guitar. But scratch N Sniff I do respect your opinion even though I don't really give a crap what kind of opinion it is. So maybe this helps you with your vote
a lot of hate for not understanding what the model is intended to be
I had a Les Paul Classic that looked exactly like that guitar. The top had less flames then the clapton model but it was the same burst. I've played 58' and 59' reissues and other then thickness of necks don't get the whole idea of spending $6000 on an instrument that pretty much is not much better then a less then $2000 instrument made by the same group of people. Yeah its a limited edition collectors item, but my biggest issue is I still think it doesn't look like Claptons Les Paul. I guess he put cover back on the Les Paul while he was in Cream but if they are really looking at it from the Blues Breakers era shouldnt he have white pickups in that guitar? no covers. I don't hate it, I'm just saying if your going to make claims that this is the greatest les paul on earth shouldn't it blow me away? Its a Les Paul Classic to me.
journeyman73 wrote:AD3THREE wrote:True does it suck or not is a little bit of an extrem. My point was as far as being a replica of an instrument that no longer exist it doesn't look a thing like any of the pictures I've seen of it. My rant was not over how does it play, I'm sure it plays like any gibson that cost a large amount of money. My point is it looks nothing like the beano guitar. But scratch N Sniff I do respect your opinion even though I don't really give a crap what kind of opinion it is. So maybe this helps you with your vote
a lot of hate for not understanding what the model is intended to be
I see the point you're trying to make. I would think the same thing if Fender came out with a Hendrix Woodstock strat that looked nothing like the white one he played there. I'm sure the guitar is very nice regardless but they might as well just call it an Eric Clapton Artist model and leave it at that. -S
AD3THREE wrote:I had a Les Paul Classic that looked exactly like that guitar. The top had less flames then the clapton model but it was the same burst. I've played 58' and 59' reissues and other then thickness of necks don't get the whole idea of spending $6000 on an instrument that pretty much is not much better then a less then $2000 instrument made by the same group of people. Yeah its a limited edition collectors item, but my biggest issue is I still think it doesn't look like Claptons Les Paul. I guess he put cover back on the Les Paul while he was in Cream but if they are really looking at it from the Blues Breakers era shouldnt he have white pickups in that guitar? no covers. I don't hate it, I'm just saying if your going to make claims that this is the greatest les paul on earth shouldn't it blow me away? Its a Les Paul Classic to me.
journeyman73 wrote:a lot of hate for not understanding what the model is intended to be
I see the point you're trying to make. I would think the same thing if Fender came out with a Hendrix Woodstock strat that looked nothing like the white one he played there. I'm sure the guitar is very nice regardless but they might as well just call it an Eric Clapton Artist model and leave it at that. -S
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Spider wrote:In my opinion, without the original to measure and spec out from, the Clapton "Beano" LP is more of an "inspired by" model.
One question no one seems to be able to satisfactorily answer is, what's different or special about the pickups used in the Clapton model as opposed to the burstbuckers (1&2) used in the reissues?
it has an alnico III magnet as opposed to the Alnico II in the reissues. it gives it a little bit of a 'twangier' sound, if that makes sense.
they actually are very similar to the p'ups in the Page #1 and #2 models, which also use Alnico III. My understanding is, however, that in the Clapton case they are not wound quite as much as the Pages. I have a Page and in trying the Clapton yesterday, there were a lot of similarities (particularly when compared to normal reissues) but the Clapton is not quite as hot in the bridge as the Page.
hope that helps.
Yes it does. Thank you. Regardless the guitar is priced well out of my reach. It's a collectors guitar.
Actually I just got EC 022 VOS and I realise they had no original to copy it from. What I do like and it is clearly stated this was built with Eric's input as to what he recalls of the original and what he would like the Beano guitar to be like if it were built today. So there is no big fraud going on here. I bought it because I have been an EC fan from day one and find value in the fact he helped spec out the guitar. I have it on approval, gotta tell ya Ill be keeping as its a great guitar, 8.2 pounds and has a very nice and different character to its tone that none of my other three historics have two 58's a 59. Its very playable and I plan to play the hell out of it!
Bottom line EC is getting up there age wise and I like having an LP he had some input on. Hell, Joe put his 2 cents worth on his sig LP and I have 061 and thats a freakin monster LP with a compleltely different character than my other babys.
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01633.jpg
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01639.jpg
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01636.jpg
Not hard to look at either. I plan on relicing it the old fashioned way.....by playing the heck out of it 
Actually I just got EC 022 VOS and I realise they had no original to copy it from. What I do like and it is clearly stated this was built with Eric's input as to what he recalls of the original and what he would like the Beano guitar to be like if it were built today. So there is no big fraud going on here. I bought it because I have been an EC fan from day one and find value in the fact he helped spec out the guitar. I have it on approval, gotta tell ya Ill be keeping as its a great guitar, 8.2 pounds and has a very nice and different character to its tone that none of my other three historics have two 58's a 59. Its very playable and I plan to play the hell out of it!
Bottom line EC is getting up there age wise and I like having an LP he had some input on. Hell, Joe put his 2 cents worth on his sig LP and I have 061 and thats a freakin monster LP with a compleltely different character than my other babys.
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01633.jpg
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01639.jpg
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01636.jpgNot hard to look at either. I plan on relicing it the old fashioned way.....by playing the heck out of it
exactly - the fact that it doesn't look like beano or whatever misses the point. it is not a replication of something that no longer is around.
i know they are using the Beano tie-in (it was recorded with the same model after all) but i do believe it is called the Eric Clapton 1960 Les Paul not Beano Les Paul.
collector item - maybe.
look i dont think there is necessarily anything MORE special to these than a regular R0 (other than the neck profile and/or the pickups) but it was never intended to be a Beano replica - that was my only point:)
You get it Journeyman. I was attracted by the fact EC got to have some say on the Guitar and I did check out a number of R0's this one is a definate step up from the other ones I have played. This holds true of any run of guitars some are exceptional and other meh... or they cherry picked the wood on this run. Unplugged this thing just rings and has lots of sustain the pickups are have their own flavor going on compared to stock BB's its a tad brighter across the spectrum and in the middle position it has an almost Strat on steroids tone to it, I generally gravitate to the neck p/u but this one all three positions are getting a lot of play.
So I pretty much paid the extra dosh for a guitar that a guitarist I admire had his hand in its design, it is a step up from all of the same model guitars I got to try and in the end I got a really fine guitar. As far as a collectors Im sure some will buy these for that purpose and I hope they do! This way when I get too old to play and after having naturally reliced this thing the old fashioned way by playing the heck out of it I can sell it at higher price than an off the rack R0. Bottom line this is nothing more than a really nice "inspired by" guitar.
I disagree. All over the gibson website they are calling this a replica of the Beano and even are going as far to included a copy of the album John Mayall and the Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton. Its a replica. I think its a good Les Paul, I don't like the fact that they are making this sound like the best les paul ever built. I also am struggling with the fact that the guitar has nickel pickups and his guitar has White exposed bobbins! For crying out loud if your going to make an exact replica of a freaking guitar at least get the hardware right! Wood grain and flames looks close but honestly I'm not impressed even if I had the money for it I wouldn't waist time with it.
MarkL wrote:Actually I just got EC 022 VOS and I realise they had no original to copy it from. What I do like and it is clearly stated this was built with Eric's input as to what he recalls of the original and what he would like the Beano guitar to be like if it were built today. So there is no big fraud going on here. I bought it because I have been an EC fan from day one and find value in the fact he helped spec out the guitar. I have it on approval, gotta tell ya Ill be keeping as its a great guitar, 8.2 pounds and has a very nice and different character to its tone that none of my other three historics have two 58's a 59. Its very playable and I plan to play the hell out of it!
Bottom line EC is getting up there age wise and I like having an LP he had some input on. Hell, Joe put his 2 cents worth on his sig LP and I have 061 and thats a freakin monster LP with a compleltely different character than my other babys.
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01633.jpg
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01639.jpg
http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/ … C01636.jpgNot hard to look at either. I plan on relicing it the old fashioned way.....by playing the heck out of it
exactly - the fact that it doesn't look like beano or whatever misses the point. it is not a replication of something that no longer is around.
i know they are using the Beano tie-in (it was recorded with the same model after all) but i do believe it is called the Eric Clapton 1960 Les Paul not Beano Les Paul.
collector item - maybe.
look i dont think there is necessarily anything MORE special to these than a regular R0 (other than the neck profile and/or the pickups) but it was never intended to be a Beano replica - that was my only point:)
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