Topic: Tube Screamer Land

I want to cut through but still retain some smooth and creamy lead tone.  I am getting ready to go back to a Tube Screamer. Which one do you forum members prefer?  Ibanez? Maxon? Cusack? I am currently leaning toward a Maxon 808 Reissue and I think I will pass on any mods.  I want the MIDS with some bass loss and high end loss! The OD 9's sound a little bright to me. Maybe the Ibanez 808 Reissue is best.  Let me know! (I am playing a Les Paul into old Fenders so I will be running the Tube Screamer into another drive pedal to get my lead tone.)

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Fulltone Fulldrive II.  You will never look back and you will say for the rest of your life holy crap where have you been all these years.

Stop delaying, its the best sounding tubescreamer based pedal on the market for any guitar amp combination.

Second to that is the Ocean EFX Texas Deuce.  Another really good tubescreamer like pedal.

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They're all pretty good. Yeah, the FD2 is great. I also really like the Pedalworx Tejas. The "Spice" knob on it is a great addition, and makes the pedal much more versatile. The MJM Blues Devil is probably the "Best" for many. Doesn't get mentioned much, but it's truly good.

    Now, the Lovepedal Eternity and the Landgraff Dynamic Overdrive are both very highly coveted pieces. Also, they are both costly.

    What I have for a TS is a BYOC. Mine is modded to be like a "Burst" Eternity. It's a warmer, smoother TS. Very good stuff.
    The BYOC kit can also be modded to Landgraff specs.

    Of the ones you mentioned, I like the Maxons. Especially the one with the extra switch. ("Pro" Model? Can't remember exactly what it's called.)

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4 (edited by jakey 2010-03-28 04:47:07)

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Lots of tubescreamers, white coily cable, no snakeskin cowboy boots (!)......here's GEARMANNDUDE.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCqIopC4 … re=channel

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5 (edited by Steve,o 2010-03-28 21:24:20)

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+1 for the Fulltone Fulldrive 2.  I just bought one and can't believe how great it sounds.  I would put it up against the maxon 808 or any TS.

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Gearmandude's Luther Drive.  Have one, love it!

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I've got the Keeley TS808TB
Expensive but irreplaceable !!

Terrible company to deal with though.

8 (edited by ruger9 2010-03-29 05:48:48)

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I've been thru them all... Fulldrive, Klon, Zen, KOT, 808, Timmy, etc...

I still have the Fulldrive. Altho IMHO, the new mosfet Fulldrives are brighter than the older pre-mosfet ones, and I recommend the pre-mosfet ones, they are warmer/fatter.

For creamy, the 808 is also hard to beat. Get yourself a Bad Monkey... it's an 808 with 2 tones controls instead of one. Very easy to get thick creamy tones out of it.

I also tried the Pork Loin (twice), the one Joe has been using lately. Not bad at all, very Fulldrive-like, but I prefer the Fulldrive.

Something to keep in mind: they way Joe (and me, for that matter), uses these drives, is to goose an already-overdriving amp, which is MUCH DIFFERENT than using them "as a dirty channel" into a clean or clean-ish amp. When Joe steps on a drive, he's not going from clean to dirty, he's going from dirty to more dirty, compressed, creamy. When used this way, alot of individual characteristics of the different overdrives isn't being used... the drive controls are on the low side... and therefore, alot of ODs will do the same job. For example, using them this way, I was able to get virtually identical tones out of:

FD2
Keeley SD-1
Timmy
Bad Monkey (808 circuit)
Pork Loin

...so close you'd only be able to tell the difference in a studio or a bedroom. THAT close.

I can highly recommend the FD2 above the others simply because is has more tonal options at the flick of a switch:
Vintage mode = standard TS tones (actually, Boss SD-1 is what the circuit is, it's not a TS)
FM mode = less mid-humped version of Vintage mode, for thicker-sounding amps or for more clarity
Comp Cut mode = neck pup heaven. Adds no compression, very little drive, but alot of presence & clarity.

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ruger9 wrote:

I've been thru them all... Fulldrive, Klon, Zen, KOT, 808, Timmy, etc...

I still have the Fulldrive. Altho IMHO, the new mosfet Fulldrives are brighter than the older pre-mosfet ones, and I recommend the pre-mosfet ones, they are warmer/fatter.

For creamy, the 808 is also hard to beat. Get yourself a Bad Monkey... it's an 808 with 2 tones controls instead of one. Very easy to get thick creamy tones out of it.

I also tried the Pork Loin (twice), the one Joe has been using lately. Not bad at all, very Fulldrive-like, but I prefer the Fulldrive.

Something to keep in mind: they way Joe (and me, for that matter), uses these drives, is to goose an already-overdriving amp, which is MUCH DIFFERENT than using them "as a dirty channel" into a clean or clean-ish amp. When Joe steps on a drive, he's not going from clean to dirty, he's going from dirty to more dirty, compressed, creamy. When used this way, alot of individual characteristics of the different overdrives isn't being used... the drive controls are on the low side... and therefore, alot of ODs will do the same job. For example, using them this way, I was able to get virtually identical tones out of:

FD2
Keeley SD-1
Timmy
Bad Monkey (808 circuit)
Pork Loin

...so close you'd only be able to tell the difference in a studio or a bedroom. THAT close.

I can highly recommend the FD2 above the others simply because is has more tonal options at the flick of a switch:
Vintage mode = standard TS tones (actually, Boss SD-1 is what the circuit is, it's not a TS)
FM mode = less mid-humped version of Vintage mode, for thicker-sounding amps or for more clarity
Comp Cut mode = neck pup heaven. Adds no compression, very little drive, but alot of presence & clarity.


Agree with a lot of the above.

3 more pedals to consider- Fulltone Fatboost, BK Tube Driver (use a 12 AU7 in it for the creamy boost) and, my fave of the lot, a Pete Cornish Soft Sustainer 2 or 3. The latter is simply the nuts- best buffer known to mankind and built to survive a nuclear war.

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i've been stepping on a TS9 reissue again recently. after selling my original, i've missed the way it helped notes leap out in the mix better. so i repurchased a reissue quite cheaply (£35). i tend to set it in a slightly boosted mode, (drive at 1 o clock, volume about noon and tone at noon) so i can use it as a standalone drive sound with a bit of punch or stack it with my drive channel or another drive pedal for heaver tones and lead work.

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Right now I am using a Sparkle Drive because of the boost element.  It is basically an 808 clone with a clean boost you can dial in on the side.  I also have an 808 Ri I sometimes use.  Tonally they are similar, right now I am using the SD.  I do find that the mid-hump is great for pushing out of the mix a little without bumping the volume too much.

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Another Dual Switch TS Type is the Pedalwork Texas Two Step. I should've mentioned that one earlier.

    However, the M.I. Audio Blues Pro is what I use more than a TS Type. It has a little more Gain, and is great sounding at all settings. As a Lower Gained Boost, or as a Cranked Setting.
    Less of a Mid-Hump, but it still really cuts through a Mix.
    It can go from the Smoother, Creamier Tones to what I think of as a "Tweed-ZZ Top-In-A-Box" Tone.

    I use the BP running into a Timmy a LOT. And they sound great with every Amp and Guitar combination I have. Very versatile set up with the 2 ODs.

1. Amp
2. Timmy>Amp
3. BP>Amp
4. BP>Timmy>Amp

    4 Switchable Tones, on the fly, and they cost less than $250.00 for both!

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I have been down the tubescreamer road a couple of times and could never get on with them. I've only ever used the standard TS-9 pedals never a 808. I had been looking at having a go at one. I just picked up a fulldrive 2 pre mosfet type on ebay for £110. A good deal I thought. It's a low serial number and signed by mike fuller. really looking forward to getting it to try it out. I'll let you know how I get on.

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I've been through a ton of Overdrives over the years and always gone back to a re-issue TS9. I have had the Keely modded ones and the difference is very small IMO.
The other one I liked was the Barber LTD. Very, very nice. like a Tubescreamer but with more grain to the tone.

Ulitmatley the best way to use a TS is into an already breaking up amp. People stick TS808's into clean Fender amps at vol set to one and expect to sound like Stevie. They don't work like that...

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Ok, some people will disagree with me but If you youtube a guy named GEARMANNDUDE or Lutherdrive that is his hand built pedal.  It is a Ibanez 808 TS, but to quote him not exactly the mids are there but you get a tighter bottom end and less top end.  I've tired 2 other TS808s and personally for the money like this the  best.  I ordered mine with a loud mod so I could use mine as a boost, it is twice as loud as any tube screamer on the market and makes my strat cry for mercey!  He also does another pedal that is after the vinage  DOD250 called the Time Bomb Boost.  I ordered both  pedals, shipping and everything was exactly $200!  The guy is super nice and really funny.  If your interested in one email him at GEARMANNDUDE@HOTMAIL.COM tell him what you want and he can hook you up.  Promise you can't go wrong.

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Handy thread...helped me a lot.

Many thanks.

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Well, I bought a stock Ibanez TS808 Reissue.  I am using it to take a second overdrive pedal over the top as I play through Fender amps.  I haven't had the chance to use it at band practice yet but I am loving it at home so far.  I had a Keeley TS9 awhile back but it was a lot brighter than this pedal. The TS808 seems to be smoother and creamier.  I'll keep you posted after I test drive it at band practice. I recently purchased a Les Paul and this pedal seems to love it.

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i've just brought one of the vintage branded les paul relics and this too loves tubescreamers. plus fender amps seem to like les pauls, or at least my blues deluxe likes this les paul more than it does my strat.

Three lessons i've learned
1:don't ever sell my TS again
2:why did i sell my les paul in the first place
3:there is no lesson 3, the government wants you to think there is  lol

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