1 (edited by jakey 2010-03-20 10:08:48)

Topic: Newbie and gear....

Well- I discovered JB 5 days ago, despite having a CD of his kicking around my boot (trunk) for a year or so....

I want to say a few things...

1. I have not been moved by a guitarist this way since I first heard David Gilmour.
2. What a lovely bloke
3. How accessible!
4. If anyone wanted a blueprint on social media engagement and marketing, JB would be the king...
5. The solo in Stop! is breathtaking...

Anyway- I am a bit of a gearhead myself so here's my rig....the 335 and LP getting a lot more use over the last 5 days...

My rig.

AC30 and 57 Fender Custom Shop Twin = tone nirvana.

Guitars:

Top row-

72 strat, Les Paul AA Burst 59 re-issue, 56 Strat, Custom Shop 335, Les Paul Special

Floor- Gilmour Custom Shop Relic, Reverend Reeves Gabrels Sig (the prototype, Reeves' own guit) Leveinson Blade with EMG DG20's

Next to amp- Fender tele with Lollars. It's a telepartscaster!

Pedalboard- designed with a lot of help from Pete Cornish.

Pedals:

74 dyancomp
74 Ram head muff
89 Civil War Muff
Demeter COmpulator
Cornish LD1
Cornish G2
Cornish SS3
T Rex Replica
CE2 (MIJ)
Phase 90
TC EQ
TC PCF
76 ELectric Mistress
MXR Delay Sys II
TC G Major
BK Tube Driver with 12 AU7.





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"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

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You're rig tells me something....you're...a...fan..of......Gary Moore - am I right?!  yikes

Some great Gilmour stuff...not sure if I'd ever want a pedal board as pricey as a Cornish one though.

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Dave

I bought the G2/SS3/P2 and Line Drivers (and cables) off Pete. The switch system is gigrig- which is unbeatable by anyone....

Pete then advised me on all the buffering, which bit is bypass, which bit is buffered and linear.

Gigrig are just building me a remote rack switcher so all then will go into a rack save the switching and the cornish pedals- which are switched manually.

Incidentally-

G2 and SS3 together with a touch of delay = JB. So close it's untrue.

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

4 (edited by DaveWammbarro 2010-03-20 17:14:52)

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One SS2/G2 going on ebay at the moment....still going at 1000bucks.  roll

Any chance of clips? I KNOW that rig will sound stunning.

UK plug sockets? Ah..ok!

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Dave

it sounds pretty darn good. Surprisingly versatile. The TC rack unit has every sound known to mankind in it- not that I use it much.

My core sound is the Demeter and the MXR Delay and then whatever distortion/OD I want. I use the Dynacomp a lot too- often with the other comp on, and the TC EQ is great to boost the mids for solos.

My method differs in concept from JB- he uses a lot more amp distortion, volume and gain than I would/can. My predominant tone is the Twin- very clean, very middy. The Vox is mixed down slightly and more naturally crunchy, and then the pedals are used to drive the gain and tone. The rig works in true stereo though- via the TC Rack. JB does it differently 'cos he plays huge venues and has much more headroom!

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

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Hey Jakey,

Welcome to the forum!  I read through your gear list and practically had to wipe the drool off my keyboard.  I've never seen a Cornish board in the states, only on some Gilmour gear sites.  I use the EMG DG20's in my custom Strat as well, probably my favorite pickups for Fenders of all time!

I couldn't view the photobucket links, but as I understand it, you run the pedal driven AC30 and Fender Twin stereo, but do you have specific effects running to each amp simultaneously?  Or do you split effects to each amp to have ex. delay on one and dry signal and reverb on the other, like Joe has with his rig?

"Aaaaaawwww Sh*****t!!!"-  Buddy Guy

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robbieashe wrote:

Hey Jakey,

Welcome to the forum!  I read through your gear list and practically had to wipe the drool off my keyboard.  I've never seen a Cornish board in the states, only on some Gilmour gear sites.  I use the EMG DG20's in my custom Strat as well, probably my favorite pickups for Fenders of all time!

I couldn't view the photobucket links, but as I understand it, you run the pedal driven AC30 and Fender Twin stereo, but do you have specific effects running to each amp simultaneously?  Or do you split effects to each amp to have ex. delay on one and dry signal and reverb on the other, like Joe has with his rig?

Robbie- http://zychal.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t … ;start=805 should be there somewhere- in fact loads of my boards over the years. I am about to go full rack with the pedals so I can lug more easily as I'm doing a load of jazz sessions at the moment. If not I'll find the TGP link for you- let me know.

My board is not a full cornish one- they're £20000 + !!! It's a hybrid- mine cost me £6100 to build- Pete worked with me to assist- it's based upon the notion of NOT having true bypass but buffering all the inline pedals and then looping the old noisy ones like the Electric Mistress and CE2 and keeping them out of the main hyper-buffered chain. I use a lot of gigrig stuff for switching as it's awesome. I wrote a note on Joe's gear thread re delay, parallel mixing for mono amps and wetness that might be useful. I don't split out the FX too much- the gigrig will do whatever and however I want things- yet to find an issue that it won't solve. I love the Twin tone and I love the AC30 too- it's a beast. I use it a lot on its own (AC30) with a 58 Les Paul special (P90's)- really sounds awesome- just amp and guitar. Twin is very much more for Gilmour type stuff when it'll be in stereo with typically as many as 8 pedals on (eg- Comfy outro solo- Demeter Comp, DynaComp, 74 Muff, TD, EQ, Mistress, Leslie simulator and 2 x delays. I've depped in a pretty well known Floyd tribute band a number of times- hence the rig!

I'm finding that for JB the Cornish G2 into the Fender with a hint of 165ms and another little more 370ms delay really nails a lot of his tone, especially with either my 335 or my Reverend. I know it's almost swearing around here but I've yet to find a Les Paul I really like. We shall see now- I'd like to find one or get a PRS.

I am looking on eBay in the 'Dismembered Limbs' section for Joe's fingers. Sadly they don't seem to be for sale- disappointing as I have been trying to buy David Gilmour's for many years and have never seen them for sale yet. Very frustrating and totally unreasonable.

DG20's- I find them best when there's a lot of noise flying around- big lights, rigs and stuff, or when I wanna nail some of the later Floyd stuff- they have their very own compression though, which is nice- very PULSE. I do prefer the Duncan SSL5's which are in the DG relic strat- lovely pup, and the Lollars which are in my Tele.

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

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Re: DG-20 EMGs

I had a set back in my old custom Stratbitocaster. I did like them for the cleans and creamy neck leads, but I just couldn't get a non-computerized sound out of them - if you know what I mean.
They just seemed a product of the time and great for the MLOR, DB and Pulse stuff and no more.

I've swapped to a set of Bare Knuckle Trilogies and a Cold Sweat humbucker - I feel this can get the same great cleans, a more biting, roaring humbucker sound and just generally more versatility. Though I am swapping them out again for the same pickup combo, but a couple of Mother's Milk and maybe a Black Dog hb.

Have you checked out that company before, jakey?

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DaveWammbarro wrote:

Re: DG-20 EMGs

I had a set back in my old custom Stratbitocaster. I did like them for the cleans and creamy neck leads, but I just couldn't get a non-computerized sound out of them - if you know what I mean.
They just seemed a product of the time and great for the MLOR, DB and Pulse stuff and no more.

I've swapped to a set of Bare Knuckle Trilogies and a Cold Sweat humbucker - I feel this can get the same great cleans, a more biting, roaring humbucker sound and just generally more versatility. Though I am swapping them out again for the same pickup combo, but a couple of Mother's Milk and maybe a Black Dog hb.

Have you checked out that company before, jakey?

Dave- totally agree re EMG's. Very sterilised, but have their use.

I've tried Bare Knuckles- nice. I have a real thing for Lollars and Jason's custom wound a few for me- I want that Clapton crunched break up.

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

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WOW .......AND......WOW

....I have so much to learn  lol

'A ROBIN REDBREAST IN A CAGE SETS ALL OF HEAVEN IN A RAGE' - William Blake

Re: Newbie and gear....

jakey wrote:
robbieashe wrote:

Hey Jakey,

Welcome to the forum!  I read through your gear list and practically had to wipe the drool off my keyboard.  I've never seen a Cornish board in the states, only on some Gilmour gear sites.  I use the EMG DG20's in my custom Strat as well, probably my favorite pickups for Fenders of all time!

I couldn't view the photobucket links, but as I understand it, you run the pedal driven AC30 and Fender Twin stereo, but do you have specific effects running to each amp simultaneously?  Or do you split effects to each amp to have ex. delay on one and dry signal and reverb on the other, like Joe has with his rig?

Robbie- http://zychal.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t … ;start=805 should be there somewhere- in fact loads of my boards over the years. I am about to go full rack with the pedals so I can lug more easily as I'm doing a load of jazz sessions at the moment. If not I'll find the TGP link for you- let me know.

My board is not a full cornish one- they're £20000 + !!! It's a hybrid- mine cost me £6100 to build- Pete worked with me to assist- it's based upon the notion of NOT having true bypass but buffering all the inline pedals and then looping the old noisy ones like the Electric Mistress and CE2 and keeping them out of the main hyper-buffered chain. I use a lot of gigrig stuff for switching as it's awesome. I wrote a note on Joe's gear thread re delay, parallel mixing for mono amps and wetness that might be useful. I don't split out the FX too much- the gigrig will do whatever and however I want things- yet to find an issue that it won't solve. I love the Twin tone and I love the AC30 too- it's a beast. I use it a lot on its own (AC30) with a 58 Les Paul special (P90's)- really sounds awesome- just amp and guitar. Twin is very much more for Gilmour type stuff when it'll be in stereo with typically as many as 8 pedals on (eg- Comfy outro solo- Demeter Comp, DynaComp, 74 Muff, TD, EQ, Mistress, Leslie simulator and 2 x delays. I've depped in a pretty well known Floyd tribute band a number of times- hence the rig!

I'm finding that for JB the Cornish G2 into the Fender with a hint of 165ms and another little more 370ms delay really nails a lot of his tone, especially with either my 335 or my Reverend. I know it's almost swearing around here but I've yet to find a Les Paul I really like. We shall see now- I'd like to find one or get a PRS.

I am looking on eBay in the 'Dismembered Limbs' section for Joe's fingers. Sadly they don't seem to be for sale- disappointing as I have been trying to buy David Gilmour's for many years and have never seen them for sale yet. Very frustrating and totally unreasonable.

DG20's- I find them best when there's a lot of noise flying around- big lights, rigs and stuff, or when I wanna nail some of the later Floyd stuff- they have their very own compression though, which is nice- very PULSE. I do prefer the Duncan SSL5's which are in the DG relic strat- lovely pup, and the Lollars which are in my Tele.

The link you added asked for a username and password, so I was unable to view.  I'm really interested to see how the rig is routed and layed out, that sounds like you put alot of time into it.  I love the DG20's because they handle my high-gain rig without excess noise, but also provide a great deal of clarity with the mid-boost, without being muddy.

My rig is a Marshall JVM 410H with a Furman SPB8C board, which I currently run mono live, but I am considering a dual mic setup and then panning stereo at the board in the future to fatten the sound and add some depth.  My studio rig is split stereo with reverb and delay from a Marshall Echohead, which I prefer over a DD3, due to its warmer "Analogue" mode.  My Gilmour tone is set on a channel that is very similar to "Shine On", with some light phasing from a Phase 90.  I have another channel on the Marshall dialed in right now to replicate "Stop!" and "Black Night", which I am recording some videos of solo transciptions I've done and I'll put online soon. I'd love to be able to run my Marshall stereo, but I need to get another cab first, and I just don't NEED to do that just yet.

As for the "Dismembered Limbs", I too have been unsuccessful in finding any useful body parts from Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall or Clapton.  Turns out they aren't for sale.......yet.  smile

"Aaaaaawwww Sh*****t!!!"-  Buddy Guy

Re: Newbie and gear....

robbieashe wrote:
jakey wrote:
robbieashe wrote:

Hey Jakey,

Welcome to the forum!  I read through your gear list and practically had to wipe the drool off my keyboard.  I've never seen a Cornish board in the states, only on some Gilmour gear sites.  I use the EMG DG20's in my custom Strat as well, probably my favorite pickups for Fenders of all time!

I couldn't view the photobucket links, but as I understand it, you run the pedal driven AC30 and Fender Twin stereo, but do you have specific effects running to each amp simultaneously?  Or do you split effects to each amp to have ex. delay on one and dry signal and reverb on the other, like Joe has with his rig?

Robbie- http://zychal.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t … ;start=805 should be there somewhere- in fact loads of my boards over the years. I am about to go full rack with the pedals so I can lug more easily as I'm doing a load of jazz sessions at the moment. If not I'll find the TGP link for you- let me know.

My board is not a full cornish one- they're £20000 + !!! It's a hybrid- mine cost me £6100 to build- Pete worked with me to assist- it's based upon the notion of NOT having true bypass but buffering all the inline pedals and then looping the old noisy ones like the Electric Mistress and CE2 and keeping them out of the main hyper-buffered chain. I use a lot of gigrig stuff for switching as it's awesome. I wrote a note on Joe's gear thread re delay, parallel mixing for mono amps and wetness that might be useful. I don't split out the FX too much- the gigrig will do whatever and however I want things- yet to find an issue that it won't solve. I love the Twin tone and I love the AC30 too- it's a beast. I use it a lot on its own (AC30) with a 58 Les Paul special (P90's)- really sounds awesome- just amp and guitar. Twin is very much more for Gilmour type stuff when it'll be in stereo with typically as many as 8 pedals on (eg- Comfy outro solo- Demeter Comp, DynaComp, 74 Muff, TD, EQ, Mistress, Leslie simulator and 2 x delays. I've depped in a pretty well known Floyd tribute band a number of times- hence the rig!

I'm finding that for JB the Cornish G2 into the Fender with a hint of 165ms and another little more 370ms delay really nails a lot of his tone, especially with either my 335 or my Reverend. I know it's almost swearing around here but I've yet to find a Les Paul I really like. We shall see now- I'd like to find one or get a PRS.

I am looking on eBay in the 'Dismembered Limbs' section for Joe's fingers. Sadly they don't seem to be for sale- disappointing as I have been trying to buy David Gilmour's for many years and have never seen them for sale yet. Very frustrating and totally unreasonable.

DG20's- I find them best when there's a lot of noise flying around- big lights, rigs and stuff, or when I wanna nail some of the later Floyd stuff- they have their very own compression though, which is nice- very PULSE. I do prefer the Duncan SSL5's which are in the DG relic strat- lovely pup, and the Lollars which are in my Tele.

The link you added asked for a username and password, so I was unable to view.  I'm really interested to see how the rig is routed and layed out, that sounds like you put alot of time into it.  I love the DG20's because they handle my high-gain rig without excess noise, but also provide a great deal of clarity with the mid-boost, without being muddy.

My rig is a Marshall JVM 410H with a Furman SPB8C board, which I currently run mono live, but I am considering a dual mic setup and then panning stereo at the board in the future to fatten the sound and add some depth.  My studio rig is split stereo with reverb and delay from a Marshall Echohead, which I prefer over a DD3, due to its warmer "Analogue" mode.  My Gilmour tone is set on a channel that is very similar to "Shine On", with some light phasing from a Phase 90.  I have another channel on the Marshall dialed in right now to replicate "Stop!" and "Black Night", which I am recording some videos of solo transciptions I've done and I'll put online soon. I'd love to be able to run my Marshall stereo, but I need to get another cab first, and I just don't NEED to do that just yet.

As for the "Dismembered Limbs", I too have been unsuccessful in finding any useful body parts from Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall or Clapton.  Turns out they aren't for sale.......yet.  smile


Robbie- does your email work? If so I'll email you the pics.

All going so well until you mentioned the master of feel-less guitar playing- Doyle Bramhall. I really do NOT dig that guy. Very staccato, so lacking in the trademark fluidity Joe has in spades. Stereo really comes in well when you have a good rack leslie or panner- like the TC G Major- which is my little magic box. Very versatile. I am adding a digitech IPS33B shortly for the best Whammy sound ever!

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

Re: Newbie and gear....

jakey wrote:
robbieashe wrote:
jakey wrote:

Robbie- http://zychal.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t … ;start=805 should be there somewhere- in fact loads of my boards over the years. I am about to go full rack with the pedals so I can lug more easily as I'm doing a load of jazz sessions at the moment. If not I'll find the TGP link for you- let me know.

My board is not a full cornish one- they're £20000 + !!! It's a hybrid- mine cost me £6100 to build- Pete worked with me to assist- it's based upon the notion of NOT having true bypass but buffering all the inline pedals and then looping the old noisy ones like the Electric Mistress and CE2 and keeping them out of the main hyper-buffered chain. I use a lot of gigrig stuff for switching as it's awesome. I wrote a note on Joe's gear thread re delay, parallel mixing for mono amps and wetness that might be useful. I don't split out the FX too much- the gigrig will do whatever and however I want things- yet to find an issue that it won't solve. I love the Twin tone and I love the AC30 too- it's a beast. I use it a lot on its own (AC30) with a 58 Les Paul special (P90's)- really sounds awesome- just amp and guitar. Twin is very much more for Gilmour type stuff when it'll be in stereo with typically as many as 8 pedals on (eg- Comfy outro solo- Demeter Comp, DynaComp, 74 Muff, TD, EQ, Mistress, Leslie simulator and 2 x delays. I've depped in a pretty well known Floyd tribute band a number of times- hence the rig!

I'm finding that for JB the Cornish G2 into the Fender with a hint of 165ms and another little more 370ms delay really nails a lot of his tone, especially with either my 335 or my Reverend. I know it's almost swearing around here but I've yet to find a Les Paul I really like. We shall see now- I'd like to find one or get a PRS.

I am looking on eBay in the 'Dismembered Limbs' section for Joe's fingers. Sadly they don't seem to be for sale- disappointing as I have been trying to buy David Gilmour's for many years and have never seen them for sale yet. Very frustrating and totally unreasonable.

DG20's- I find them best when there's a lot of noise flying around- big lights, rigs and stuff, or when I wanna nail some of the later Floyd stuff- they have their very own compression though, which is nice- very PULSE. I do prefer the Duncan SSL5's which are in the DG relic strat- lovely pup, and the Lollars which are in my Tele.

The link you added asked for a username and password, so I was unable to view.  I'm really interested to see how the rig is routed and layed out, that sounds like you put alot of time into it.  I love the DG20's because they handle my high-gain rig without excess noise, but also provide a great deal of clarity with the mid-boost, without being muddy.

My rig is a Marshall JVM 410H with a Furman SPB8C board, which I currently run mono live, but I am considering a dual mic setup and then panning stereo at the board in the future to fatten the sound and add some depth.  My studio rig is split stereo with reverb and delay from a Marshall Echohead, which I prefer over a DD3, due to its warmer "Analogue" mode.  My Gilmour tone is set on a channel that is very similar to "Shine On", with some light phasing from a Phase 90.  I have another channel on the Marshall dialed in right now to replicate "Stop!" and "Black Night", which I am recording some videos of solo transciptions I've done and I'll put online soon. I'd love to be able to run my Marshall stereo, but I need to get another cab first, and I just don't NEED to do that just yet.

As for the "Dismembered Limbs", I too have been unsuccessful in finding any useful body parts from Derek Trucks, Doyle Bramhall or Clapton.  Turns out they aren't for sale.......yet.  smile


Robbie- does your email work? If so I'll email you the pics.

All going so well until you mentioned the master of feel-less guitar playing- Doyle Bramhall. I really do NOT dig that guy. Very staccato, so lacking in the trademark fluidity Joe has in spades. Stereo really comes in well when you have a good rack leslie or panner- like the TC G Major- which is my little magic box. Very versatile. I am adding a digitech IPS33B shortly for the best Whammy sound ever!

Yeah my email should work just fine, I would appreciate that greatly.  I suppose that Doyle is sore subject becuase he was on the "In The Flesh" tour with Roger playing David's parts....  I really do dig Doyle's work with Clapton.  I like his Hendrix-esque tones and his roots-acoustic stuff alot.

"Aaaaaawwww Sh*****t!!!"-  Buddy Guy

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Back to front upside down playing is impressive either way...you'd think he was brought up by a pack of wolves...  wink

15 (edited by THEGREATREDDRAGON 2010-03-21 21:44:48)

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wow never got that from Doyle Bramhall before, he oozes passion imo. Just check out his redntion of Rosie from Crossroads or his work on Claptons Sessions for Robert J. Also I love his solo on Green Light Girl, welcome by Doyle and Smokestack is always being played in my house. Really think he brings out the best in Clapton, always makes him rock out lol

I also liked his stuff on In The Flesh, obviously hes not David Gilmour but then who is? I thought he did great but it was just different.

'A ROBIN REDBREAST IN A CAGE SETS ALL OF HEAVEN IN A RAGE' - William Blake

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robbieashe wrote:

Yeah my email should work just fine, I would appreciate that greatly.  I suppose that Doyle is sore subject becuase he was on the "In The Flesh" tour with Roger butchering David's parts....  I really do dig Doyle's work with Clapton.  I like his Hendrix-esque tones and his roots-acoustic stuff alot.


Fixed for you!

big_smile




(I thought he was dreadful with Eric- I even prefer Any Fairweather-Low!- we'll agree to differ!!)

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.

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jakey wrote:
robbieashe wrote:

Yeah my email should work just fine, I would appreciate that greatly.  I suppose that Doyle is sore subject becuase he was on the "In The Flesh" tour with Roger butchering David's parts....  I really do dig Doyle's work with Clapton.  I like his Hendrix-esque tones and his roots-acoustic stuff alot.


Fixed for you!

big_smile




(I thought he was dreadful with Eric- I even prefer Any Fairweather-Low!- we'll agree to differ!!)

HAHAHAHAHA that was hilarious. I respect your passion for distaste for DBII, though I respectfully differ.

  I saw Snowy White, Dave Kilmeister and Andy play with Roger on the DSOTM tour a few years ago, and I thought that was pretty righteous.

"Aaaaaawwww Sh*****t!!!"-  Buddy Guy

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robbieashe wrote:
jakey wrote:
robbieashe wrote:

Yeah my email should work just fine, I would appreciate that greatly.  I suppose that Doyle is sore subject becuase he was on the "In The Flesh" tour with Roger butchering David's parts....  I really do dig Doyle's work with Clapton.  I like his Hendrix-esque tones and his roots-acoustic stuff alot.


Fixed for you!

big_smile




(I thought he was dreadful with Eric- I even prefer Any Fairweather-Low!- we'll agree to differ!!)

HAHAHAHAHA that was hilarious. I respect your passion for distaste for DBII, though I respectfully differ.

  I saw Snowy White, Dave Kilmeister and Andy play with Roger on the DSOTM tour a few years ago, and I thought that was pretty righteous.

Snowy- now you're talking. I hear so much of Snowy in Joe to be honest. Maybe it's a Gold Top thing.....

Did you get my email?

"Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips...."

JB LP Goldtop No. 290- Aged...rather like me.