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Topic: Joe's tone on a small fortune budget? (silver jubilee substitute)

Hey guys im looking into putting together a joe style rig without having to spend $3000 dollars on a silver jubilee and an additional $5000 on a carol Anne, so I was wondering if there are any good substitutes. Im looking to get Joe's Had to cry today tone, and Dazed and  Confused tone. Does he use his carol Anne in conjunction with his silver jubilee for these songs or does he use another amp? I've heard that the jcm 2000 dsl 100 is capable of producing some good silver jubilee tones, I would like to try one out this weekend and I was curious if you guys have any any experience with these, and what settings do you use or does Joe use. Ive also heard that the ceriatone hrm 100 is a great bang for your buck, have you guys had any experience with this amp as well and what did you think. Any recommendations are welcome.
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2 Reply by brandonherges (edited by brandonherges 2010-02-21 06:29:43)

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Re: Joe's tone on a small fortune budget? (silver jubilee substitute)

I myself am also looking into the DSL 100. I got a chance to play it at guitar center (I have a policy of not *buying* from the one around here. I've had bad experiences with their employees, but it's a good place to look ;D) Anyways, I thought it sounded pretty good, and had a really nice tone. I didn't get a chance to crank it obviously, but checked out the clean channel, which sounded really nice, as well as the distortion. I myself generally have my Low's up around 9 or 10, my mid's around 6ish-7.5ish, and my highs down really low around like 3 or 4. It sounded fantastico to me smile I'm hoping to find one for a good price, and pick it up. It's got my seal of approval (My seals don't mean *too* much though wink ) Cheers big_smile

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Re: Joe's tone on a small fortune budget? (silver jubilee substitute)

What amp are you using now?  To be honest Joe's tone or rather his tone character has a lot to do with playing loud, very loud, through 100W amps!  There is no reason why you cannot get similar tone characteristics using a cranked Fender Twin, and say an MI Audio Crunch Box or Wampler Pinnacle for the Marshall tones.  If that is too loud, consider an attenuator or a baffle, the latter being the preferred method to really let the speakers sing.  I would actually also invest on a nice EQ pedal since Fenders are top-endy and Joe's tone rests in the vocal midrange area of EQ.  If you really want a Marshall, you will loose a lot of headroom, but the DSL line is quite great;  the EQ pedal suggestion will still apply.

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Re: Joe's tone on a small fortune budget? (silver jubilee substitute)

1960LesPaul wrote:

Im looking to get Joe's Had to cry today tone, and Dazed and  Confused tone.

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On Had To Cry Today, I'm pretty sure that was his Jubilee + Superdrive 30 back in his Budda days.  Dazed and Confused is the Jubilee + Category 5 JB100 (basically a 100w Superlead).  Same theme here, it's Joe's "rude" Marshall/Marshall tone that is a little drier and crunchier than his other tones.  To be completely honest, you can get very close with just one amp and pedals if you don't want to spend the $$$.  My rig today:  '58 Les Paul RI + (Metro) Superlead100 + Fulltone OCD + DD3 = THAT TONE.  It was very, very close to the Just Got Paid tone to my ears.  As far as amps go, sounds like you need a Marshall.  Superlead clones/kits can be had pretty cheap and I recently saw a great Silver Jubilee 2555 100w go for $1700.  You have to look for the deals and be patient.  A DSL100 is a good alternative, but is quickly becoming redundant since I got my Superlead.

1960LesPaul wrote:

My current rig is a 1960 vos les paul going into a vox wah, tc chorus, ts 808, butler tube driver, and a boss dd3.

You have everything you need as far as guitars/pedals go!  I essentially have the identical list of pedals you mention except for the TC Chorus (gotta get one lol).  I highly recommend a Marshall Plexi or Silver Jubilee as I feel that these amps capture that tone better than any other amp I've heard.  Like already mentioned, a DSL is okay on a budget.  If you don't need 100 watts I see 50w Silver Jubilees go for $1500-$1700 on The Gear Page regularly.  Good luck, hope this helps!

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