Topic: Slide Guitar

For a while I've really wanted to get into slide guitar but never known how or where to start.

Can you guys recommend some tunes to get me going with? Is there anywhere that provides technique pointers as well as theory like the scales to use?

Are there particular guitars that are better for slide than others too?

Cheers,
Chris

2 (edited by Adam 2010-02-05 01:34:37)

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For where to start im unsure, personally i just tuned to open E and sat down for a good few hours and days messing with scales and changing between tuning, listening to Ry Cooder thanks to the Crossroads DVD and learnt from there. But for guitar setup Ry Cooder told George Harrison that the best setup is to jack the bridge up high and put some heavy guage strings on. That's all i can say really.

Adam

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Don't even really need to change tunings, just keep it standard and then sit down and just start messin' around. That is Warren Haynes recommondation.
I just bought the Guitar World Slide Lesson DVD with Andy Alderdort. Havent sat down with it yet but should be good.

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http://www.12bar.de/slide.php Thats where i started.

Then i suggest you get joes blues deluxe tab book, theres slide in there from easy through to hard.

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I love playing mumbling word big_smile

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I would say, if you know your scales, pents, whatever well, stay in standard 1st, and use the D/G/B strings for your major chords with the slide. on those 3 strings from open you get:
G/Ab/A/Bb, B and so on, like A shaped bar chords up the neck.

Next, find the Phyrigian(hope I got that right) box (yes, pents can be Phryrgian too!)for the key you are in, it is a great place to start

The problem you will have is sliding and getting the slide on and off the strings. Slide is more about sound and feel, then dead on accuracy. Damping is very important and may force you to learn some new techniques. I play can with Fingers, Pick&Fingers and Pick only, they are all different- but many great sliders use all or some of these.

Play with a heavier slide, and let it do the work for you. Play over the frets, listen to be in tune.

Put the slide on any finger that is comfortable for you, there really is no way to do this wrong. It will sound like **** at first, overtones and stuff, and intonation being off.  Just keep at it, it will payoff.

Joe plays in a few different tunings, E-G- and D, and I think I have heard like an Em or DADGAD tuning in there too (He is after all a big Zepplin fan)

I play about 8 different tunings, slide is kinda my thing. I make bottlenecks, and also do the Sonny Landreth behind the slide thing. I will gladly answer any questions you have about playing slide. I also play lapsteel. Would love to learn pedal steel but I am dyslexic and learning that would require faculties I don't have

You may have too (to get a good tone) raise the action a little on a guitar. Most people make the mistake of jacking it up, which actually makes it harder to learn. raise the action in quarter turns, until you can play both slide cleanly, and still fret when you need too.

Open G is closest to standard- only dropping 3 strings: DGDGBD (low G) the advantage to this tuning is all your blues pents on the DG and B remain the same, the rest you have to adjust upward 2 frets, but they are close!

Open G is primarily a Country Blues tuning but I love it and use it for everything, minor, major, 7th blues, country, rock- EVERYTHING---- the secret behind the Stones sound (Keef Richards) is open G. Ry Cooder taught it to him (and rumored that Ry also did Honky Tonk Woman on record, not Keith, and was not given credit, causing a lifelong battle)

Warren Haynes does play in standard, because of Gov't Mule,  but he prefers open E, big Duane fan. Open E is tighter on the strings, and some people like that sound (open A is the same way) Billy Gibbons is a big open E guy, but usually just plays in Standard

Bonnie Raitt was taught Open A by Lowell George of Little Feat.

Dave Hole plays over the neck with the slide on his 1st finger and uses a pick, totally backward from conventional technique.

So, play on , spend some time with it and learn to work it

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Some excellent suggestions guys, thanks for this.

I've ordered that Guitar World DVD so I'll see how I get on with that.

Thanks for that link HRJ that looks really useful! I think my biggest problem is not knowing what scales to use; to me the standard pentatonic never sounds right (could just be my accuracy in using it though!).

My plan is to get a Danelectro DC-59 to tune to open E and really get to grips with this. I don't really own a guitar that I'd be happy to always have in open E all the time and have a high action. Does anyone here have experience of these guitars?

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Well, Open tunings, like Open E, line all the pents up for you! I would say to go here and look at the scales  in open E 

http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/

Danos are fun for slide and have a kinda tele meets P90 hollowbody tone to them, I have played a few, clean they have a wonderful chime to them

Slide On!