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You've got to do the 3d for the overall effect. Bad acting, cliched characters and predictable plot are all there. It is all about the visual presentation and novelty of the studio finally getting 3d right IMHO. I think that a fully digital cinemax theater would be the best for viewing with a seat near the front so the wrap around can add to the immersion effects. It sure grabs you.
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motörhead wrote:
Bill S wrote:

I thought this was a very good movie but agree with Lee that it was pretty predictable. As a movie I'd probably give it a 7 out of 10. As an entertainment experience, a 9 out of 10.

Yeah, that's pretty much my opinion.
After about 50 minutes I was able to guess nearly the exact ending of the movie.
The movie as a movie is alright the movie as entertainment (like a rollercoaster) it's almost perfect.
Maybe I should go and watch it in 3D....

If you didn't see in 3D the first time, you HAVE to go back. The best 3D movie I have ever seen...I have to think a huge difference from seeing it in 2D.

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Saw it two days ago in 3D: not the most sophisticated story, but brilliant and emotionally touching movie. Agenda? Of course! Everybody doing a movie, writing a book or a rock song, saying something or being silent has an agenda. (Even people who hate agendas usually have very big agendas.)

You read about many diffent agendas: anti-imperialistic, anti-capitalistic, revisionistic western, first world vs. third world, dealing with indigenous peoples, good vs. evil, civilisation vs. nature, anti-american etcetc. The Chinese government took the agenda "dislocating people" very serious and is about to restrict the time Avatar can be shown in China. (A Chinese blogger: The movie shows a situation playing on another planet which is brutal reality in China). In an interview Cameron said that Avatar seems to work like a Rorschach test: The agenda you see has more to do with you than with the movie.

Which agenda did I read? Longing for paradise. Not paradise outside: nobody wants to go back to the Big Forest. Where would be the plugs for guitar amps and sound systems? Definitively not Cameron: no way to do a movie like this in Big Forest. So it´s about inner paradise, more or (mostly)less accesible for everyone. Living in the rhythm of inner and outer nature, yin and yang in dynamic balance, not suffering from an ego (will power, control, structure) gone wild. Not either stress or exhaustion but as well tension as relaxation. As the main character, discovering his real power  only after getting gentle, letting go and surrendering to "nature". Or Cameron, using the most advanced technical tools to a most mystical and dream-like movie.

Günter

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Nice post Guenter, and a very thoughtful analysis.

Guenter wrote:

The agenda you see has more to do with you than with the movie.

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That belongs in the great quotes thread smile

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Finally seeing it on Sunday in 3D......looking forward to it.

Am expecting it to be as predictable as the last film he did roll , but who cares. It looks awesome and a bit of escapism is good for the soul! cool

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Saw it for the fourth time the other day - took my mum (who like my other parent is very cynical about 'wood films).
Both of them have loved it though...a very immersive film...a film you can get involved in and relate to. Hollywood brings in its ending etc, but for once CGI does itself very proud.

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Thank you for starting this thread as it encouraged me to go and see Avatar.  Tried to get a ticket for the IMAX at Waterloo but only tickets available were mostly for the midnight showing and wasn't sure that I would stay awake at that time!  Having seen the film at my local cinema with the 3D glasses I may have been wrong about staying awake.  I loved it - not into fighting etc. but thought that the overall effect was beautiful.  Oh, and I was glad that I only had to duck once or twice!

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Maggie, I'm so glad you didn't nod off. (don't know how one could!) Now we need to get Joe to do one for the world in 3D. big_smile
Rick

maggie wrote:

Thank you for starting this thread as it encouraged me to go and see Avatar.  Tried to get a ticket for the IMAX at Waterloo but only tickets available were mostly for the midnight showing and wasn't sure that I would stay awake at that time!  Having seen the film at my local cinema with the 3D glasses I may have been wrong about staying awake.  I loved it - not into fighting etc. but thought that the overall effect was beautiful.  Oh, and I was glad that I only had to duck once or twice!

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Maggie, I'm so glad you didn't nod off. (don't know how one could!) Now we need to get Joe to do one for the world in 3D. big_smile
Rick

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Good?

eva wrote:

Good movie. In my opinion. wink
Eva

Better?

RusScagell wrote:

Best movie I've ever seen smile
Rus

Best!!!!

As I'm a SciFi fan I was really interested in it anyway.
But it's a lot more than just a great looking scifi movie.
There's so much in it which should remind all of us - the belligerence and brutality of humans, the "climate change" (nah here in Germany we have snow for about 6 weeks now!), cultural problems, the ruthless economy...
After looking it the first time I just had some thoughts about Dances With Wolves...
egoistic humans putting of other cultures...
it ain't funny at all.

All of that combined with a nice story, great scifi, a whole new world and most modern technology. It's absolutely great.
I only read one official review which tells bad things about Avatar - it shall be a "cheap and shameless imitation of a dozen novels and scifi stories"...

Saw it three times now - but no time in 3D. But in two weeks - when my A-level exams are done - I will!

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If you haven't seen it in 3D, you haven't seen it.

JBJHJM wrote:

Good?

eva wrote:

Good movie. In my opinion. wink
Eva

Better?

RusScagell wrote:

Best movie I've ever seen smile
Rus

Best!!!!

As I'm a SciFi fan I was really interested in it anyway.
But it's a lot more than just a great looking scifi movie.
There's so much in it which should remind all of us - the belligerence and brutality of humans, the "climate change" (nah here in Germany we have snow for about 6 weeks now!), cultural problems, the ruthless economy...
After looking it the first time I just had some thoughts about Dances With Wolves...
egoistic humans putting of other cultures...
it ain't funny at all.

All of that combined with a nice story, great scifi, a whole new world and most modern technology. It's absolutely great.
I only read one official review which tells bad things about Avatar - it shall be a "cheap and shameless imitation of a dozen novels and scifi stories"...

Saw it three times now - but no time in 3D. But in two weeks - when my A-level exams are done - I will!

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Having not seen it , just read your reviews, is it ALL, CGI Film ?
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I think it is one eye vertical polarized, other horizontal. Something like that. The specs are clear. The picture is fuzzy if you don't wear them.

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My advice is go to see it and then look on YouTube for clips on how they generated the images.

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I don't go to the cinema that often, but when I do, I'm usually agreeably surprised by how good a movie is in big screen format. I've seen a number of 3D movies over time and have laughed them off as being done for novelty value. Because of that I chose to drive to Manchester to see Avatar in 3D IMAX simply because I hadn't seen IMAX before and this seemed the most ideal film. I'd read the reviews on here of course and wondered at the hype that has surrounded this film, and of course the negative comments about the Director's agenda. But I went with an open mind.....

Jeez it was good! On every level! I'd go see it again!

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Brack wrote:

Having not seen it , just read your reviews, is it ALL, CGI Film ?
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I heard the film has taken ideas from Roger Dean, renowned for his work with, Prog Rock Band Yes ..... among many others.

Go have a look at Roger Dean's work www.rogerdean.com
Or just Google, [Roger Dean avatar], and you will see what i mean!

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Brack wrote:
Brack wrote:

Having not seen it , just read your reviews, is it ALL, CGI Film ?
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I heard the film has taken ideas from Roger Dean, renowned for his work with, Prog Rock Band Yes ..... among many others.

Go have a look at Roger Dean's work www.rogerdean.com
Or just Google, [Roger Dean avatar], and you will see what i mean!

Also, have a look at the latest edition of Classic Rock Magazine. Has a nice 2 page article on Roger Dean, and Avatar.

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