Topic: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I have a few Strats and a Les Paul that are set-up with .09's, if I put on .10's do I need my tech to set-up - any possible complications?

Thanks!

TF

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

with the slight stronger tension from the 10's u might have to add a bit more tension on the neck through the trust rod, and u might have to recheck and adjust intonation. and hope your nut is cut wide enough to accept the thicker .010" gauge string. other than that the strings might bind in the nut as well.

its all a matter of principle...

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

Hi!
I don't know about the Strat.
But I think from 09's to 10's on the Les Paul there won't be any problems.
On my Les Paul I changed my string gauge over 1 year from 10-46 to 12-56 (standard e tuning). I guess as time went on the nut and bridge got wider.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I swap 9-10s on my LP quite a bit of the time...it seems cool.

Approaching 11s and anything over 48....I'd either take a quarter turn or get a tech to set it up fully...intonation etc.

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

motörhead wrote:

Hi!
I don't know about the Strat.
But I think from 09's to 10's on the Les Paul there won't be any problems.
On my Les Paul I changed my string gauge over 1 year from 10-46 to 12-56 (standard e tuning). I guess as time went on the nut and bridge got wider.

Awesome dude! I started last year on my 25'' scale PRS SE on 9 - 42's. Then 10 - 49's, and by June I was happily, on 11 - 52's. Didnt do much damage smile But I've been REALLY wanting to go to 12 - 56's, but not sure if I could handle it. I mean, at home, I practise on an acoustic, but when I then go back to an amp,, I become 'unaware' of gain hmm
But I would recommend the increase in gauge man smile a strat has a longer neck scale, so should be able to handle it. Mine did smile And the higher the gauge, and I've noticed too, it's true, the better the tone!

R

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

Yeah, I think the tone is better with heavier strings. And I like the feeling of heavy strings (furthermore high action).
At first I played the 11s in Eb tuning. Then I went to 12s. And then back to standard tuning with 12s. It was really hard. But now I got used to them.

Ah the strat. Maybe you should add a spring or something like that.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I switch back and forth between 9's and 10's on my Strat all the time. It doesn't affect it, at least not to me.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I used to have .09's on my LP Custom. I was a teenager and needed a really low action. I had it about as low as it could go.

It DID need a setup when I put .10's on it. The strings buzzed a little bit, and it pulled on the the neck a little more, so it needed a minute neck adjustment.

I'd say try it, if it's buzzy - get it setup.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

Thanks!! I have all my Strats set-up with .10's, but have a Hendrix Voodoo Strat in particular thats been left with .09's on it, don't play it much:/.  I want to get that Strat back into the rotation, pretty cool strat - forgot how much I enjoyed that baby and others that have been in lock down/storage - like new guitars all over again:).

I agree, guage difference provides better tone IMO, can't believe looking back, that I ever used .09's...was a little baby. Sounds like I'll be visting my tech soon for some set-up's. If anyone in the Orange County, CA area ever needs a GREAT Tech, let me know, my tech is awesome!!

Thanks for the reply/feedback.

TF

RusScagell wrote:
motörhead wrote:

Hi!
I don't know about the Strat.
But I think from 09's to 10's on the Les Paul there won't be any problems.
On my Les Paul I changed my string gauge over 1 year from 10-46 to 12-56 (standard e tuning). I guess as time went on the nut and bridge got wider.

Awesome dude! I started last year on my 25'' scale PRS SE on 9 - 42's. Then 10 - 49's, and by June I was happily, on 11 - 52's. Didnt do much damage smile But I've been REALLY wanting to go to 12 - 56's, but not sure if I could handle it. I mean, at home, I practise on an acoustic, but when I then go back to an amp,, I become 'unaware' of gain hmm
But I would recommend the increase in gauge man smile a strat has a longer neck scale, so should be able to handle it. Mine did smile And the higher the gauge, and I've noticed too, it's true, the better the tone!

R

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I've gone from 11's to 10's on my strat no problem.... the les paul - I usually get setup when I change guages.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

t92780 wrote:

Sounds like I'll be visting my tech soon for some set-up's. If anyone in the Orange County, CA area ever needs a GREAT Tech, let me know, my tech is awesome!!

id like to know who's the tech that you are talking about, i have been using Guitar Doctor in Fountain valley off the 405fwy and Euclid exit, they do awesome work, but it doesn't hurt to know more people that do guitar setups, my les paul is due for a setup but im also trying to not spend the money atm, but im getting pretty close in needing some fret crowning and polishing but i have been thinking of upgrading my string gauge to 11's, i currently use 9's, so i know for sure that i will need some nut work and neck/intonation adjustments, because my nut is cut to fit 9's and the slots aren't big enough to accept thicker strings

i sometimes wonder if i should take the gauge to 10's and leave it there, wonder if 11's might be too much for me atm. but i have a Taylor T5 custom that is strung with 11's that i seem to play with out issues, although high bends aren't that easy one it as they are on my les paul.

its all a matter of principle...

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I recommend 11's.
At first the 12s were really hard. But now I feel just fine playing them. Even 1 1/2 bends work. You have to get used to them. Sure, doesn't work overnight. But then, eventually 09's and 10's feel like rubber bands smile
To my knowledge Stevie Ray Vaughan played 18's at first but went to 13's due to the damage the 18's caused to his fingers.
I think I won't go to 13's. I'm fine with the 12's. Or.... maybe .... ah, I don't know.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

Good tip is if you have the tune-o-matic style bridges with a stop tail piece you can wrap the strings over the top. It'll take some of the tension out of the string and make it easier to play. So 11's will feel like 10's wink

Also unless you have an extremely low action on 9's generally you won't need to set your guitar up for 10's.

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

That's a good idea. I use it too.
Here's the thread about top wrapping.

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motörhead wrote:

To my knowledge Stevie Ray Vaughan played 18's at first but went to 13's due to the damage the 18's caused to his fingers.

Where on EARTH did you hear this? Please post a link if you can find this info.
I remember hearing that he was known for using .13's but he used everything/anything that was available.

I never noticed a REAL tone difference between 12's and 11's. Plus the difference between 11's and 10's aren't really enough for me to bother. I like 10's because I can be confident I can go to the store and find the brand I like. With 11's, sometimes they'd have them - other places not.

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

NPB_EST.1979 wrote:

Where on EARTH did you hear this? Please post a link if you can find this info.
I remember hearing that he was known for using .13's but he used everything/anything that was available.
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Here's one link, the 18's are not mentioned: http://www.tangledupinblues.com/setup.html
Here's another (18's mentioned): http://www.djnoble.demon.co.uk/ints/STEVIER.VS.html

I don't know if the 18's are just a myth (I can't really imagine 18's)

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Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

RusScagell wrote:

And the higher the gauge, and I've noticed too, it's true, the better the tone!

R

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Just go with whatever guage you're comfortable playing with...and try not to screw up the tendons in your hands and fingers trying to bend 12s or 13s! wink

Re: Do I Need a Setup from Going from .09 strings to .10's?

I say, try heavier strings. Try. I don't say you have to stick with it.
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