Topic: 2009 king of the blues winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNrFu_p_ajY

Pretty interesting, 2 slides. I like the acoustic piece better than the electric though...

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COOL!  I've never seen a slide player use 2 slides.

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The guy's a good player, congrats to him.  Take those slides off and I think I could take him though roll .  It really seems like the judges are looking for more slide/acoustic guys the last few years.  I didn't really sense a whole ton of soul in his playing which IMO is what the blues is about. Not the gimicky stuff but as you can see it leads to a win... I was watching his technique and didn't see the point of the two slides.  Seems like the riffs he was playing you could do with just one?

Without sounding to much like an A-Hole I'll humbley state that I've given up on GC's KOTB competition.  The only cat that I've seen enter that was ate up with the blues was that kinda heavy set dude with the Epiphone Lucille. Gino something...I checked out his stuff and he's a GREAT singer with tons of chops and SOUL.  He should've won the year he competed. mad

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Hey!
Well, I've just watched the vid. Not terrific at all to me... He's a good player obviously but there's not much soul in there and not much originality either. I prefer the electric piece, although I'd stop it at 2 min 30, it's more than enough. The acoustic piece is just a shredding thing without soul and even worse, without a single line of melody... Congrats to him anyway! roll

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WHY do they call it king of the BLUES????  roll

KOBS is more like it...call it what it is!  Wankers & pretenders HARRUMPH!  King of Guitar Gimmicks?
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Since when do we need a competition to declare a king? Everybody knows who the King of the Blues is......I don't have to say it. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it, except those idiots at Guitar Center. And I don't think the King is not quite ready to give up his crown just yet. Not as long as he can still beat any guitarist with just one note. wink

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My 2 cents. The Blues needs all the help it can get. Guitar Center understands if it wasn't for the blues there wouldn't be a Guitar Center. They have had Guitarmaggedon contest which is where anything goes. Mainly shredders. This brings the blues to the attention of those shredders. This contest is nothing but good for the blues. Joe B was chosen to represent the contest this year. They obviously know who is carrying the torch to the next generation.

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I thought the guy was pretty good and I did see him using both slides at once.  It might be excess but he was using them.  Honestly though good or bad who cares at least Jim is right us blues guys are getting noticed! If it wasn't for this or silly moives that lie about Chess Records our type of music would be completely lost by the mass public.  You might not be a fan of the blues but you hear GC is giving a 59 Les Paul away a car and like $25,000 in cash?  You bet thats going to cause some people to pay attention.  This guy that won might not be better then you, but it really was just about a total package.  Hate the Chain not the player.  Ok I'm done.

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jim m wrote:

My 2 cents. The Blues needs all the help it can get. Guitar Center understands if it wasn't for the blues there wouldn't be a Guitar Center. They have had Guitarmaggedon contest which is where anything goes. Mainly shredders. This brings the blues to the attention of those shredders. This contest is nothing but good for the blues. Joe B was chosen to represent the contest this year. They obviously know who is carrying the torch to the next generation.

I agree, Jim.  Anything that gets the Blues and guys like Joe some pub and excitement is great in my book.  On the order of how Guitar Hero is exposing the younger generation to the guitar greats.

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AD3THREE wrote:

I thought the guy was pretty good and I did see him using both slides at once.  It might be excess but he was using them.  Honestly though good or bad who cares at least Jim is right us blues guys are getting noticed! If it wasn't for this or silly moives that lie about Chess Records our type of music would be completely lost by the mass public.  You might not be a fan of the blues but you hear GC is giving a 59 Les Paul away a car and like $25,000 in cash?  You bet thats going to cause some people to pay attention.  This guy that won might not be better then you, but it really was just about a total package.  Hate the Chain not the player.  Ok I'm done.

Well said and I agree, anything to help put the blues in the spotlight I guess.  I'm not a big fan of making blues a competition because it automatically makes someone feel inferior or thus "better" when it may not be the case.  Blues is about how you feel not how many notes you can play.  Blues is in need of some CPR, no doubt about it, but I believe as long as there are guitar players there will be blues music.  The way that the guitar is scaled out it's just a neccessary style to learn if you are to have total mastery of the instrument. Blues is like the common "glue" that holds all types of music together.  Most other types of music such as rock, jazz, and country are just a few notes different here and there.

I guess I'm waiting for someone to win that plays more along the lines of BB King, Freddie King, Clapton, Gary Moore, Jeff Beck, Joe Bonamassa, etc.  Enough of the slide monsters! (although Joe, Clapton, and Beck are beasts on the slide too)

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I honestly don't care about slide or not. I mean come on, is Derek Trucks not one of the best guitarists alive? Jeez what a player. I just showed a video of him to an employee and watched his head explode. lol

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call the competition whatever they want to... k.o.b. or whatever... it's a guitar competition.

This year, I think they might have gotten it right. Yeah, the guy was "gimmicky" with the two slides - but that is the blues. Every big player is known for something they do that is special or entertaining. This guy uses two slides. At least it was something new and not a like a violin bow, cordless drill, or some other pedal effect. Slides are simple blues tools and he multipled them by 2. Kudos to the guy.

I clicked on the link with low expectations and came out impressed. Where is the Kirby Kelley  from?

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Kirby is from texas, i was there at this event, and  got to see Joe Play(main reason why i went) but i know seeing the final 5 competitors play was a win situation as well. but out of all 5 competitors, Kirby was the best, and he had the most original stuff, the 2 slide thing alone is original, and his music altho its slide and blues didnt sound similar to other players, and his acoustic version as someone said sounds like shred, it was much better than the rest of the competitors, there was one of the guys that played sounded good on electric, and once they gave him the acoustic he sounded like crap, i couldnt even play it, missing notes, muted notes, buzzing, it sounded like someone learning how to play a guitar.

all in all it was a great show, Joe ripped it on the guitar as usually, he started it off with ballad of John Henry and a few more of his songs and then they brought out many other guitar players and famous people. i forgot 1/2 of their names already, but i do remember Elliot Easton, he was one of the judges and played with Joe after the competition.

as far as for GC putting this thing, well i might not be a great Fan of GC but i like the fact that they offer such competition for people to enter, hell yea it would be cool to win 25k in cash and a brand new 09 R9 Les Paul, Ok they might call it the King of blues competition, but lets face it, it dosent have a real crown, nor the real title of being the king of blues, but you get the names of players out there.

all in all, it was a great show.

its all a matter of principle...

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I did NOT say that Mr Kelley was not good.  He's good.  Kudos for winning.  Is that gut wrenching, soul filling blues?  It is not.  Not to me.

And to respectfully disagree with a couple of you, the blues does not need a shot in the arm or a spotlight shown on it unless it's by a Blues Artist.

By definition AND reality blues is not mainstream anything.  Joe?  Derek? say what?  In many ways Joe and Derek have more personal integrity than a lot of blues "gods" who made their fame on something other than blues.  They are both brilliant guitarists and damn smart marketers.

Our music will never be LOST...mass public be damned...if you want to be a big commercial success, then go with the SCHTICK that gives you that.  Gene Simmons net worth hovers around 800 million.

The blues is not dead.  N-O-T NOT!  The guy is good.  Blues?  That acoustic piece would've, could've, been a perfect duet with a banjo player.  He's good...good.  John Hammond maybe should've judged that or Roy Rogers;  2 acoustic and slide experts at blues.   

Guitar Center does not have it right, yet.  Maybe one day they will.  It's an excellent start to have our Joe judge.  Or Call it sumpn else.  It's awesome that they (GC) do this.  25K is a nice prize and that axe...whoa, but...

Lastly, some of my marketing associates get publicity (bad or otherwise) and they make more $ than I do.  But they don't have what I have.  wink

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I'm pretty sure Dan Peters' acoustic performance wasn't his fault. I can't honestly believe that a player like him would sound that bad on slide, I'm pretty sure it was an issue with the guitar. In the very beginning of his piece he gave it a few extra strums because the top notes weren't coming out, and again I'm not positive on this, but I think he just decided to go on with the piece, like Josh Gooch after he broke that string.

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bigjeffjones wrote:

I did NOT say that Mr Kelley was not good.  He's good.  Kudos for winning.  Is that gut wrenching, soul filling blues?  It is not.  Not to me.

And to respectfully disagree with a couple of you, the blues does not need a shot in the arm or a spotlight shown on it unless it's by a Blues Artist.

By definition AND reality blues is not mainstream anything.  Joe?  Derek? say what?  In many ways Joe and Derek have more personal integrity than a lot of blues "gods" who made their fame on something other than blues.  They are both brilliant guitarists and damn smart marketers.

Our music will never be LOST...mass public be damned...if you want to be a big commercial success, then go with the SCHTICK that gives you that.  Gene Simmons net worth hovers around 800 million.

The blues is not dead.  N-O-T NOT!  The guy is good.  Blues?  That acoustic piece would've, could've, been a perfect duet with a banjo player.  He's good...good.  John Hammond maybe should've judged that or Roy Rogers;  2 acoustic and slide experts at blues.   

Guitar Center does not have it right, yet.  Maybe one day they will.  It's an excellent start to have our Joe judge.  Or Call it sumpn else.  It's awesome that they (GC) do this.  25K is a nice prize and that axe...whoa, but...

Lastly, some of my marketing associates get publicity (bad or otherwise) and they make more $ than I do.  But they don't have what I have.  wink

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This is mainly what I was trying to convey but you did it with much better words!  Thanks Jeff!  Yes I also agree that Blues will survive and be okay, even if it never sees the spotlight ever again.  There will always be people who can make a living singing it and playing it IMO.  I remember seeing an interview about Joe and how he feels that if anyone does anything new with a "blues" tag on it the Traditional Blues Police or Knights of the Round Table comes out of the woodwork to bash it.  I am starting to feel like I'm one of those guys when I re-read my comments.  There is something magical and real about the old traditional stuff to me.  But there is also something magical about the way guys like Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Joe Bonamassa, and Jeff Beck approach the blues as well.  I appologize if I sound like an opinionated arse.  I guess every year I'm hoping the winner is the next great blues artist that is going to blow my skirt up!  tongue

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Well I am one of those guys as well to a certain extent.  Somehow one can feel the difference between a bluesman stretching out from the inside and a rocker/shredder pushing into the blues arena.  Sounds stupid or arrogant to say that, but there's some truth to it.

It feels different to me.  Anyway good luck to KK! big_smile

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You know I think it would be hard to express soulfulness on a comp. like this.  For me and the guys I play with when we play out one or 2 of our first songs really don't sound like us.  We are just totally one of those bands that need to warm up before hand.  Now I'm sure those guys have a chance to warm up before the hit the stage or whatever but nerves I bet play a big role in what these guys are feeling and I bet if I made it to the top 5 I'd be scared shitless that I'd mess up and lose.  If I had something like that going on in my head yeah I'm sure you'd say the same thing about me "Where's the Soul?"  The judges saw something in this cat that I bet the video just doesn't show.  Maybe they had seen other videos of his other performances that got him to that point and they were killer I'm sure.  I'm just saying give the guy a chance to prove himself and we might be impressed.